adept

Xiang Gong - Fragrant Qigong

Recommended Posts

My view on death is just my take after being on a spiritual path for the last 50 years and having 2 world famous masters. I think that the exact time of our death, just the exact time of our day of enlightenment is already determined. What qigong does is allow us to be more healthy during our allotted lifespan. We probably can agree that one thing for certain that we all get from qigong is a stronger immune system. That alone would result in better heath. Same principal applies to my practice of Transcendental Meditation. It was meant to produce enlightenment which it certainly did for the guru who brought it out to the rest of the world. But I have never heard of anyone else reaching enlightenment who does TM, even for several decades. But what it does do is give other benefits that makes your daily life go better with less stress. We do not get physical immortality from doing qigong but we get better health and some spiritual growth.  Daisy Lee during her webinar the other day mentioned that one of her teachers lived to be 108, Master Duan, and her other teacher lived to be 115! I say that is good enough.  

  • Like 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Posted (edited)
19 hours ago, SirPalomides said:

In the 90’s the category of “medical qigong” was promoted by the government, as opposed to “superstitious” styles with religious overtones or charismatic leaders.  Scams and cult/ mass-movement behavior were growing concerns.

The government promotes styles that lack a supernatural element. There is nothing "medical" going on with the Yijinjing or the baduanjin version that is promoted by the CCP. They are plain exercises, nothing more than their western counterpart, isometrics. Are they "good for health"?, yes but so are isometrics, callisthenics, stretching etc.

Did you never wonder why there are no pranayama exercises, promoted by the CPP, for example like "9 bottled breaths"/"nine purification breaths"?

Some of those have no visualisation and no "supernatural" elements while clearing the channels (which are a big part of TCM which the Chinese government promotes at every corner. Double speech? you bet!)

Edited by Zork
  • Like 3

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
22 hours ago, Cleansox said:

Screenshot_20200616-103108.thumb.png.1c117fa4e5348ebd09db05ccea733390.png

This was not what I was looking for, in the late 90-ties several styles advertised that they were on a list of about ten approved styles. Maybe the list have changed. 

I've 2 books, one is published by China Qigong Research Institute, Beijing, in 1985, "Discussions on Chinese Qigong". There are two lists of qigong styles in the book: 1. Jing-gong (stationary) styles - 18 schools. 2. Dong-gong (dynamic) styles: 17 schools. Some of the above list are in this book. Two other popular qigong styles, Da Yan and He Xiang are featured in the book as well. Another book, "300 questions on Qigong Exercises" was compiled by Lin Housheng and Luo Peiyu. In this 2nd book, about 40 styles were featured including hard qigong. This book was printed in Guangzhou, 1994. Ma Wang Dui's Daoyin system was not in the two books. Of course, these two books are not exhaustive in their listings as there are close to 2000 types of qigong.

 

After the collapse of the Imperial Qing Dynasty in1911, there was a hasty and fervent social revolution across China propagating the removal of opium, superstition, and prostitution. Of the three, Superstition was very deeply rooted in the rural population where paper charms and magic spells were touted to cure all ills and evils and as an alternative to proper medicine. China then was very poor and there were not enough doctors and TCM physicians then. When CCP took over the rein of government, opium and prostitution were quickly eradicated, and superstition was the last to be resolved. In time, with education and the improvement of the health system, 'witch-doctors' were eradicated as well. However, when any one or group tilted any established religious teachings for their advantage or claimed to have supernatural powers like distant qi-healing, passing through walls, or with powers of levitation, the Chinese government would intervene and disband the group. And not because the group commanded a huge following. I think Taijiquan has a larger following if you understand what I meant. If you are a Buddhist and have read Falun Dafa then you will understand that Falun Dafa is a serious corruption of the Buddha-dhamma. I was given the book Falun Dafa to read some 20-30 years ago and concluded that it was a serious corruption though some Buddhist terminology was kept, just like some other cult-leaders claiming 'reincarnation' of Buddha. The Dhammacakra is the Turning of the (Dhamma) Wheel, but the 'turning' is not a rotation but a starting, a beginning, an activation; not a rotation in accord with the Cosmos. That's BS.

 

 

  • Like 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I would like to mention something about the turning of the Dharma Wheel in Falun Dafa. After I learned Falun Dafa I had my medical clairvoyant check to see if there was a wheel installed inside of me. He described in correct detail including how it was rotating. And I also felt the wheel being installed. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Posted (edited)
3 hours ago, Sudhamma said:

Very good! Soon you can levitate, go through walls, and perform miracles. 

 

You've already stated you disagree with it on Buddhist canonical grounds, which was an excellent point and well made. Petty ridicule of other members then detracts from that point in my opinion. 

 

I know there are still practitioners of Falun Gong in China getting arrested for passing out literature that (they see) as 'clarifying the facts' about their practice. I'm curious, what is the situation with Fragrant in China? Are there still people practicing, albeit behind closed doors? Is it largely tolerated now, with authorities turning a blind eye?

Edited by Vajra Fist

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Uncertain, cloudy. Celestially this is the case, might take time to trickle down.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

@Vajra Fist, You are right...I should not have made that remark. I am sure that Falun Gong is still practised secretly but the pseudo--Buddhist philosophy of Falun Dafa especially the outlandish claims would not be tolerated. It was their outlandish claims that got the society into trouble with the authorities. 

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites