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  1. What is Jing ... really?

    I see, thanks. I'll stay clear for now. When I've reached a high enough level of internal energy proficiency, I'll probably be able to discern more clearly for myself the cause effect relationship...
  2. What is Jing ... really?

    That sounds like it would harm the jing in that case Weight training causing significant damage with long-term negative effects in terms of mobility and pain as described in your example. Not the thing I'm after I'll stay safe with body weight training, cardio and Qigong/Neigong.
  3. What is Jing ... really?

    Very interesting, thanks. I don't know if you follow a lineage like freeform does though that builds the body in the same manner with the fascia connecting together in the way he describes? It seems there are many differing opinions on this! At least it seems from @freeform he said that it will only cause harm in terms of development. He has said multiple times that bodyweight stuff like animal walks are great though and also things like sit ups and some push ups, but anything that involves contractive force like deadlift, squats and bench press is no bueno since it will create problems for the internal mechanics. Here's the quote from first page of this thread: I do find it strange that it has such a potent effect on my mind when I've finished such a workout. I do not get the same rush from doing cardio or bodyweight, it is only with heavy weights and things like deadlifts, squats and bench press I get that feeling. It is like a rush of warmth through the body and can become quite euphoric, I imagine it is some androgenic hormonal response, but I have no idea.
  4. What is Jing ... really?

    You mean weight training or? I really liked the feeling I got after doing squats and deadlifts, but I learned from freeform that it builds the body in the completely opposite direction of what is needed for neigong and neidan, so had to let it go. Now I do running and stretching instead.
  5. Immortality?

    An excerpt from Damo's White Moon on the Mountain Peak might help you here. It's a great book. Hope that helps!
  6. It's nearly New Years, and with New Years I usually reflect how I spent my year. The darkness of December also makes me naturally more contemplative and pensive. Brings out some darkness before the light shines brightly again in nature. Last night I was reminded of three years ago where I came across a picture of a book online entitled Vasistha's Yoga by Swami Venkatesananda. I read the first chapter and remember how the very first chapter on dispassion moved me very powerfully. I would like to discuss with anyone interested the importance (or lack thereof) of renunciation and seeing things for what they are. I believe in various traditions - the view of reality is different. For instance in Buddhism's "lower" or foundational vehicles like Theravada one is taught to see non-self and suffering in the five clinging categories with an emphasis on renunciation and dispassion. In the Mahayana vehicle, one is not only taught non-self but also about the nature of the great One Mind outside the five skandhas which is what, arguably, the prajnaparamita sutras are all pointing to as I see it. In Master Nan Huai Chin's words: "When the Hīnayāna speaks of no self, it is in reference to the manifest forms of presently existing life; the intent is to alert people to transcend this level, and attain Nirvāṇa. But when this flowed into the world of learning, especially when it was disseminated in the West, some people thought that the Buddhist idea of no self was nihilism and that it denied the soul, and they maintained that Buddhism is atheistic. This is really a joke."- Nan Huaijin. Working Toward Enlightenment: The Cultivation of Practice. pg.139 In the Vajrayana path and especially Dzogchen, the view is the most important - an emphasis on Mind alone and clear-seeing is paramount for the practice. In the prelimaries however, even in Vajrayana, the faults of samsara are explained and emphasised and I'd argue even to this day renunciation is still an important and vital part of the tradition with an emphasis on retreat and renunciation for genuine progress. One must not forget one of the crowning jewel's of the Tibetan tradition is the example set by the practictioner Milarepa himself - enlightenment in one lifetime. On towards the text itself, the Vasistha's Yoga, a text presented by Valmiki, the poet-sage - who is also said to have written the epic Ramayana; it is about the prince Rama's conversation with the sage Vasistha. In the first chapter entitled Dispassion, the prince is deeply moved and appears depressed and suffering in having realised the impermanence of the samsaric joys that are based on the body-mind's sense-impressions that are ultimately not-self, suffering and impermanent. In the first chapter here below, Rama explains in details what this realization entailed for him: That was super long, so apologies if you did not wish to read it all. I really enjoy this chapter and reflecting on prince Rama's words here. As this is the daobums, what do you think of his view of the world? True, false, exagerrated, neither? Is it important to be reminded of such a view to cultivate properly on the Way? Is the suffering one experiences in this world, or that which is part of the first noble truth, necessary for genuine spiritual progress to occur? Do we need to witness suffering in ourselves and in others to see the world for what it really is? Is dispassion the first step to genuine progress in these arts? Or is it something else? Perhaps curiosity or simply a joy of explorating what else there is? Let's discuss! And to everyone, I wish you a great New Years!
  7. Haiku Chain

    Face rubs from a cat, cozy snuggles from a mouse, sensation is a trap.
  8. Haiku Chain

    one too many, bygones be bygones, love and refine.
  9. What is Jing ... really?

    Probably not that important at first either. It's not required to replenish prenatal jing to recover health in most cases is it? Just replenishing post-natal Jing would be enough to support kidneys and the whole system, yes?
  10. What is Jing ... really?

    Wow, yeah, makes sense. I think Wang Liping was taught since 8 years old by several masters, at least according to the biography. Probably many masters did the same to ensure certain lines stayed intact. What does restoring prenatal jing entail exactly from an alchemical point of view? Is it at the point where Jade Fluid is turned in the orbit or at a later stage? Don't know how much fun it was to be honest. At least I had such a big bite of it that what remains is a lot of world weariness from that. It was impermanent and ultimately all of it let to suffering. Paying the price. Karma. First Noble Truth.... But I guess part of the spiritual path or the essential part of is really knowing what to do and what not do. And that this gets more and more refined at higher levels. Though, maybe how I feel just reflects my kidney issues. Fun!
  11. Some more advice needed on practice

    Would you say the line Damo's lineage follow is specifically geared for the spiritual process similar to your own master's?
  12. What is Jing ... really?

    Haha, that's a fair point. But I meant more in terms of how to setup your daily life using modern tools that could help cultivation. For instance, there's a lot of research lately showing that low-level light therapy (LLLT) and infrared (~670nm and ~800nm) is incredibly helpful for healing, the nervous system, etc. And no doubt getting enough sun exposure would be far more beneficial than that, and living in a temple or near one would be amazing, but for householders that live in the wrong environment for their energetic make-up, the advice of a genuine Daoist master in utilising modern tools to sort of "offset" those aspects would be amazing. But maybe they'd offset them with some Fu talisman rather than light therapy. I wouldn't know
  13. What is Jing ... really?

    Wonderful, wonderful! Thank you for this illuminating reply. Seems like the ideal is to find such a master.
  14. Some more advice needed on practice

    A bit funny really because everyone that trains within the school appears to know it as a common knowledge thing I'll refrain from answering it as well out of respect obviously, but I do find it odd that it is not freely mentioned. Or perhaps you are referring to a very specific line that can be traced back to the lineage holders and is not publicly known even by the open-door students (and only known by inner-door)?
  15. What is Jing ... really?

    Very interesting. Thank you everyone for providing your input and thoughts on the matter. When you speak of Jing travelling through here, it appears to be functioning as a substance. I assume this is all post-natal Jing you are talking about in such a case? The last part you mention with kidney jing being weak where bones get weak (osteoporosis, teeth falling out) and the back hurting, brain doesn't get nourished etc., this seems to me very associated with overall hormonal and endocrine health from a Western perspective. For instance in both men and women, testosterone and estrogen are associated with all the things you just mentioned there as being related to kidney jing, and as they decline either in men and women, there is higher risk of all the above-mentioned "(bones get weak (osteoporosis, teeth falling out etc), back (spine) hurts, the brain doesn't get nourished and you develop mental fog, fuzzy thinking, dementia, Alzheimer's etc)" The relationship to horse stance is similar to the relationship to the findings in Western science that found that doing squats and deadlifts actively improves hormonal health such as testosterone and also reduces risk of osteoporosis. We also know that resistance training reduces risk of dementia and improves cognitive functioning quite significantly in the elderly. See here. I would imagine horse stance would do something similar by stressing the same muscle groups involved. So I believe that's how the reasoning came to be That and all the Shaolin monks doing it as part of their foundation training and Drew (voidisyinyang) talking ad nauseum about it. Also, I'm curious. When is Jing the highest? I've heard differing views on this. For instance, some say that Jing is the highest in babies. But others say that for alchemical purposes, actually Jing is the highest at 16 years of age, and you can't begin proper alchemical training until that age. Well, what happens around 16 of age? From western medical point of view, the hormonal system is at its peak functioning. So it seems there's some degree of relationship between the hormonal systems efficiency and Jing. What happens according to the alchemical view that is different from when one was a baby with one's Jing that allows one to begin the training proper? This sounds like DNA and epigenetics - "environmental" (inner and outer) factors impacting the fetus in the womb during development (9 months spent in the womb). Fascinating stuff. Thank you for the discussion