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Welcome. How do you interpret the paradoxes in the Tao Te Ching? For instance in Chapter 2?
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Hi Smudge, welcome to the forum.
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Hi aintmt. Welcome to the forum. @wandelaar yeah, a philosophical Taoist, I think.
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Why were the highest spiritual teachings kept hidden/secret
doc benway replied to idiot_stimpy's topic in General Discussion
Laozi says When a wise person hears of the Way He devotes himself fully. When an average person hears of the Way He tries to understand but doubts. When a fool hears of the Way He laughs out loud! Ha! When I first heard of the way I laughed, But when I saw it with my bones, I laughed even louder! In the first case I laughed at the simplicity of it all. How could it be so obvious? Ha! In the second, I laughed at the simplicity of it all. How could I have been so oblivious? Ahā¦ haā¦ ha.. ha! I continue to laugh Not at the Way, but At the effort of the wise At the doubt of the middlings And most of all at āMyā āSelf" -
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Business Plan: Interactive Monument Cube with Augmented Reality 1. Project Description The project is an innovative interactive monument in the form of a massive cube that functions as a digital screen. Inside, users can appear as avatars controlled via an online platform. Passersby can observe what happens inside, while avatars can see the outside world through cameras embedded in the cubeās walls. 2. Problem & Solution Problem: Modern monuments and art installations are static and do not engage the audience in active interaction. Solution: Create a dynamic digital space where the real and virtual worlds merge, forming a new kind of art and public interaction. 3. Target Audience City residents and tourists seeking unique cultural landmarks Gamers and virtual reality enthusiasts Artists and digital creators Companies looking to host advertising campaigns and events in the cube 4. How It Works Online Access: Users register on the platform and create an avatar. Entering the Cube: Avatars appear in the cubeās virtual space and can interact with each other. Avatar Display: Their actions are projected onto the cubeās external screens, visible to passersby. Cameras & External Visualization: The cube is equipped with cameras streaming the outside world inside. Interactivity: Users can paint, communicate, perform, play games, or hold virtual exhibitions. 5. Gameplay Mechanics Artistic Activities: Drawing and creating art objects Performances and avatar dance shows Virtual quests and puzzles Collaborative creative projects Gamified interactions (points, levels, competitions) 6. Technical Implementation Software: Development of a platform allowing entry into the virtual world Hardware: High-definition LED screens, external and internal cameras, server infrastructure Interactive Elements: Touch panels, gesture control, voice control 7. Funding Investment Sources: Venture funds interested in AR/VR projects Grants and government subsidies for digital art development Crowdfunding and donations Partnerships with brands and advertisers 8. Monetization Paid access to the virtual space Sale of virtual items (skins, creative tools) Space rental for events and advertising Virtual exhibitions and NFT auctions 9. Marketing Strategy Virtual presentations and demos in the metaverse Collaborations with popular artists, streamers, and brands Social media campaigns with hashtags Public events and test launches in major cities 10. Conclusion & Future Prospects This project merges technology, art, and game mechanics to create a unique interactive experience. If successfully implemented, it could become a tourist attraction, a next-generation art object, and a commercially viable platform.
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Why were the highest spiritual teachings kept hidden/secret
Master Logray replied to idiot_stimpy's topic in General Discussion
All of the above are true. I will add some additional reasons. - obligation to the universe/gods/codes/traditions - personalized teaching - they are unable to teach the students to high level - pressures from other factions/orders - the skills don't really work or are true - they are making money out of the secrecy In fact when Taoism developed, the transmission was open to all. The methods were open (doesn't mean it is easy). Anyone willing to follow the path could cultivate and could be an immortal, which was no difference from the "true bloods". But later it went into secret transmission, to the extent that only 1 or a few acceptable students can be the lineage bearer. All others, including the so called inner circle received only secondary or part of the teachings. But Taoism is hiding the means/skills/technologies but not the "highest spiritual teachings" like how the universe is born, the hidden rules, who is who in the heavenly hierarchy, life goals, rituals, offerings.... -
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This is true. will cause what people called it "Kundalini Syndrome"
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Greetings, My name is Shane. I am a 51 yr old seeker of truth/knowledge. At the age of 15 I ingested morning glory seeds and began meditating on truth/ knowledge/purpose. During my meditation I had a profound experience. For lack of better terminology, the voice of God came to me. I say for lack of better terminology because to say it was a voice doesn't even begin to describe it. It was as if it emanated from the center of every cell in my body and from every point in space outside my body. I didn't so much hear it I experienced it as if all senses were "saying it" i heard it seen it felt it smelled it tasted it. Anyways the voice asked me why do you seek this knowledge. Then I heard a different voice ask me if it was for personal gain. I came to realize that the second question came from me due to its presence. If there was not an aspect of me that wasn't searching for personal gain then the question wouldn't have been asked. Anyways that was one of the things that set me on this path. I've circled around taoism for years and am now ready to dive deeper into taoism. It is a pleasure to be here and I look forward to discussing the tao.
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I donāt think so As I wrote in my response to Lairg, I donāt think that kundalini yoga will achieve the right circulation either, as these yogis seem to get stuck grasping at the crown, and not gaining real satisfaction in the long term from this. I took a very personal road, time will tell if this road is the right one to achieve full alignment of my three bodies, physical subtle and causal. My journey isnāt finished, my insight isnāt absolute, but I can discuss my perspective as I understand it at this moment. For your part, doubting my claims is entirely valid, Iāve doubted all claims of achievement myself, I think when someone has achieved a final state they should be able to prove it satisfactorily.
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I agree with your general thrust, and only feel the need to clarify my position. The clearing that has to be done before kundalini is in the two side channels, these are mental and emotional complexes, when kundalini is forced I believe it ends up clearing the side channels as well as the central channel and this is Gopi Krishnaās experience, itās unnecessarily dangerous and damaging, and I doubt this sort of forcing even brings one to the āSelfā which after all is the aim of any method. The central channel is a different matter, this is the channel that I believe kundalini clears, this is the channel itās not possible to clear without kundalini, this is the channel where all underlying karma is rooted out. Think about it logically, after the side channels are cleared kundalini is naturally awakened, and as she rises she canāt help but clean. The possibility of kundalini awakening in the central channel and having no karma to clear and rising immediately and effortlessly is a trillion to one, you would need to be born with no karma, which is so rare as to be impossible. What I have found through experience is that doing things in what I consider to be the right order, clearing the psychological level of emotions and thoughts, at the same time creates the subtle body infrastructure that will go on to be used by kundalini as she makes her way upwards, allowing that progress to not be overwhelming. I had guidance in how to create certain subtle energy infrastructure, which made it relatively easy for me, I think without guidance it would be a lot harder on a person, I personally canāt even imagine how some things would be formed that are required, so the whole topic is quite complicated, but once emotional and mental complexes are resolved, and this subtle body infrastructure is in place, kundalini does exactly what she needs to do in the central channel. In general I would also say that I disagree with the idea that kundalini goes to the crown and efforts to stay there are actually the goal. Again from experience kundalini does travel up to the crown but then falls back down to the centre point of the body, where she waits patiently for the gifts of the crown to come to her, think of a tree whose fruits ripen in their own time, and drop down when they are ready. I think people have been making a huge error in staying in samadhi trying to āstealā these fruits by forcing kundalini to stay in their crown for x amount of time, as long as they remain in samadhi. Not having followed a natural course, they crave the fruits and steal what isnāt ripe, which doesnāt lead to any real satisfaction. True satisfaction I believe comes with aligning with the Soul in the causal body, the fruits that fall when ripe just facilitate this alignment, theyāre part of the overall system.
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My own observation is that the causation is the other way. When the emotional and mental blockages/traumas are cleared the energy flows that we call kundalini can occur without damaging the subtle bodies. Pushing kundalini energies through contaminated bodies can do damage that carries over into later incarnations. In my view humans that cannot control their thoughts need to avoid techniques that force energy flows. Much damage can occur - for a long time.
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Why were the highest spiritual teachings kept hidden/secret
Cobie replied to idiot_stimpy's topic in General Discussion
DDJ Ch 41 äø 士 é» é å ļ¼å¤ļ¼č½ č” ę¼ å ¶ äø The ablest students, when they hear of the Way, with effort can get started on it; äø 士 é» é č„ é» č„ äŗ” Mediocre students, when they hear of the Way, it is as if they are lost and confused; äø 士 é» é 大 ē¬ ä¹ With the dullest of students, when they hear of the way, they laugh aloud at it. å¼ å¤§ ē¬ äø č¶³ 仄 äøŗ é ē£ But if they did not laugh aloud at it, it could not be considered the Way. (Guodian, Henricks) -
Why were the highest spiritual teachings kept hidden/secret
doc benway replied to idiot_stimpy's topic in General Discussion
There's a two-fold meaning to that line for me - When hearing a description of the Way, it sounds so ridiculously simple as to be a cause for laughter. When actually having a direct experience, it is so ridiculously simple and obvious as to be a cause for laughter. The former laughter is incredulous and easily shrugged off, the latter is joyous and exuberant and, to some degree, lasts a lifetime. - Yesterday
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Yes , It is innate but my question do they circulate as it supposed to ? common people nowdays without proper training, won't have that rise much and/or circulate properly. That requires lot of intensive training for having that rise (i.e. different breathing & bandha techniques, balancing Ida & Pinggala, etc) I am not talking here without knowing it, in fact I have been trained in different schools of modality and I am not here to debate with anyone. so if you mentioned you had that with natural unfolding, maybe the term kundalini that we talk are "different" one or perhaps you were born differently.
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Why were the highest spiritual teachings kept hidden/secret
Cobie replied to idiot_stimpy's topic in General Discussion
Thereās nothing kept secret, no need to, the truth is so simple that unenlightened people donāt recognise it. äø 士 é» é 大 ē¬ ä¹ With the dullest of students, when they hear of the Way, they laugh aloud at it. (DDJ Ch 41) -
Greetings from a new member. I have been practicing meditation, yoga and qigong (all at a pretty low level) for a long time. Have been drawn to Taoist writings and principles for almost as long, but - intending no disrespect - do not find personal resonance in magical or religious aspects. I consider myself a Zen student, since that Tao-influenced flavor of non-dual Dharma feels most congruent with principles of natural being and flow. I lookforward to expanding my own perspectives by reading many of yours, and perhaps posting a few questions for wiser and better-informed practitioners.
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You need to do more taiji form + zhan zhuang, my opinion. No succes in internal alchemy without full jing.
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i know him, well it can not be replaced about what i want but thanks anyway, the inner student class is closed unfortunately
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Kundalini isnāt something I 'practice' like a technique, itās a natural unfolding. I could stop engaging with it, but that wouldnāt mean kundalini stops, it would just mean I stop paying attention to whatās happening internally. When kundalini, an entirely natural consciousness that inhabits the central channel when awakened organically, has full reign, itās not something that can or should be stopped, that would be like saying, "Stop feeling or stop thinking for a few months and see what happens." It just doesnāt work that way. I understand that kundalini is not part of your belief system, but that doesnāt mean it isnāt a fundamental part of how consciousness integrates and transformsāitās just something you havenāt encountered yet. Maybe take some time to read about kundalini before trying to debate it out of existence. Gopi Krishnaās experience is a good exampleāhe forced the process and paid the consequences, but it was unstoppable. Iāve also found Swamij insightful, as he emphasises the importance of clearing the side channels first. https://swamij.com/kundalini-awakening.htm
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How about you try to stop practising your "Kundalini training" for a while like months and see if you can see the world differently ?