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  1. Road Trip 2

    Its a whale shark . No teeth ... a filter feeder . Not dangerous .... dont confuse it with a tiger shark though Interesting that you bumped this as another little road trip starts today - Washpool ( biggest Antarctic Beech forest on the planet) > Gibraltar Range > Glenn Innes and back along the Old Grafton Road through Dalmorton ghost town ; Please give way ; The road down to 'Diehard' :,152.0785764,2474m/data=!3m1!1e3
  2. box life

    Dick shaped ? You might enjoy this ;
  3. In the link I gave above Hiebert cites the south Central Asian oasis complex as originating in the far eastern ( present day Iranian ) foothills going into the Kopet Dag ( 'dry irrigation supplemented by hunting and gathering out in the oasis alluvial fans ( 'thickets', 'wilderness' , 'wetlands ) . As their numbers increased and the dry agriculture method could not keep up with their increase, they started clearing the oasis and developing a different type of irrigated agriculture . Then things really 'took off' . Here, it appears, that people didnt develop irrigation and then that allowed them to increase population - population increased and they developed irrigation to be able to feed more people . Regarding 'aggression' and oppressing others in some societies : Maybe people 'living in close proximity' ( and having to dig out those damn canals constantly ) made people grumpy ? I know it makes me grumpy .... not enough to go oppress the neighbours though . .
  4. Another thing I think we need to look at, as well as agriculture is animal domestication. Peoples that had 'simple' , proto-farming or 'dry agriculture' seemed to have more egalitarian cultures. But people that used irrigation and domesticated animals, less so. I cant see how irrigation could change human consciousness away from an egalitarian framework , but animal domestication could . There are two types basically ; the 'companion or household animal ' (like the dog or cat ) and the 'working animal' . I think that the 2nd type has a lot to do with the development of slavery- the antithesis of egalitarian . The harnessing of animals to do the work of humans is similar to slavery, and as I have noted before, perhaps some 'bright spark' in the past observed; ' If I can get an animal to do that .... why not another human ? ' The process is the same ; capture, 'hobbling' , training and forcing to work under the whip for the bare exchange of basic food and shelter (to keep your 'investment ' alive) . For example, the Australian Aboriginal had proto / dry 'farming' ( some basic 'irrigation' , mostly for eel aquaculture ) but no domestic work animals (they had dingos and pelicans for pets , but no 'slave' animals ) and never developed a sacrificial culture or slavery. So that dynamic, along with the abilities that allowed raid and run ( mostly horse riding and chariots ) basically led some people to develop a system of being 'over' others . Even the original 'Caste ' system ( Varna) was based on profession or work and was not hierarchical , it wasnt until much later that the other caste system ( 'Jati' ) based on ethnic division of clan and tribe that notions of superiority / inferiority entered into it . Agriculture and animal domestication have made some serious impacts on the human condition
  5. Probably . But I was talking about Zoroastrians and 'proto-Zoroastrian' culture not Indo - Europeans . Certainly . That is if you mean Andronovo culture and Zoroastrian culture, they are different cultures and have different origins. It is the origin of early Kazakhstan culture and Andronovo culture .... if that is what you mean by 'that civilisation' . Kazakhstan is not the origin of BMAC culture. BMAC is a recently discovered 'lost civilisation' ; What 'this area' ? The BMAC area ? They do mention the BMAC area , but they dont have the same names we do now, of course. There is a wealth of material about the 'old rivers' that proponents of an IE incursion into NW India cite .... and there is a wealth of the opposite , claiming those rivers are in India ( see the 'Out of India Theory, {they claim India is the origin of IE} - sponsored by the Indian Nationalist Party) . . And in the Zoroastrian scriptures ; For latter research ( post Sarianidi) on BMAC ;
  6. I am sorry , Everything says I can no longer answer questions about the past until I 'become it ' . This guy even gives a lengthy 'discourse' on a suck in (try clicking on the link dude ! )
  7. ..... yep ..... hippies ....... I knew it ! - I have one of those too dude ! ; By unveiling, we reflect. The goal of a resonance cascade is to plant the seeds of grace rather than bondage. Beauty requires exploration. We must bless ourselves and empower others. The world is electrified with bio-electricity. This life is nothing short of an evolving fusion of high-frequency karma. Today, science tells us that the essence of nature is choice. Our conversations with other adventurers have led to a redefining of pseudo-karmic consciousness. Throughout history, humans have been interacting with the universe via frequencies. Who are we? Where on the great story will we be aligned? To engage with the journey is to become one with it. We exist as bio-electricity. Nothing is impossible. The quantum matrix is approaching a tipping point. Manna is a constant. Potentiality is the knowledge of knowledge, and of us. Consciousness consists of electrical impulses of quantum energy. “Quantum” means a maturing of the enlightened.
  8. It is a Good Day to Die

    ... so we have two types Those that fear not death and believe in a life thereafter and those that fear not death, with no belief in a life thereafter - two very different things , I'd say . Those that can accept a 'nothingness' that gets 'reformed' somehow , and those that accept an 'absolute nothingness' .
  9. It is a Good Day to Die

    Not for Swinburne , who wrote that ^ He was a reactionary against Victorian (and latter ) religious 'resurrectional hopefullness' ; I kneel not neither adore you, but standing, look to the end. All delicate days and pleasant, all spirits and sorrows are cast Far out with the foam of the present that sweeps to the surf of the past: Where beyond the extreme sea-wall, and between the remote sea-gates, Waste water washes, and tall ships founder, and deep death waits: Where, mighty with deepening sides, clad about with the seas as with wings, And impelled of invisible tides, and fulfilled of unspeakable things, White-eyed and poisonous-finned, shark-toothed and serpentine-curled, Rolls, under the whitening wind of the future, the wave of the world. The depths stand naked in sunder behind it, the storms flee away; In the hollow before it the thunder is taken and snared as a prey; .... Thou art more than the Gods who number the days of our temporal breath; Let these give labour and slumber; but thou, Proserpina, death. Therefore now at thy feet I abide for a season in silence. I know I shall die as my fathers died, and sleep as they sleep; even so. For the glass of the years is brittle wherein we gaze for a span; A little soul for a little bears up this corpse which is man. So long I endure, no longer; and laugh not again, neither weep. For there is no God found stronger than death; and death is a sleep. ( some people found his writings on death a ' little confronting' )
  10. What made YOU laugh today/tonight ?

    He should have used that cat in this ;
  11. What made YOU laugh today/tonight ?

    My cat cosplays Ninja from Die Antwoord -
  12. They key here is that the term 'Abrahamic Religions' ignore their real roots as the term Abrahamic can not include Zoroastrianism , which is the precursor ; (early Aryan , Pre-Vedic off shoot) > Zoroastrianism > Judaism > Christianity > Islam > Baha'i . 'Evolution' via the process of ' Progressive Revelation' . The earliest Zoroastrian writings (which seem to be a MEMORY of a much earlier time ) have an origin in BMAC area (which is now recognised as a 'cradle of civilisation' along with Tigres Euphrates Valley, Nile Valley, and Indus Valley Civilisations . We have a collection of lands that these early 'Zoroastrians' knew about ; Note the settlement patterns from Central Asia, north of the Zargos Mts ('The wilderness ' ? ) , across the 'top' , skirting the south sides around the seas, up into Anatolia and only the headwaters of the Tigres and Euphrates - they didnt know about the lower valley / T&G rivers agricultural area. And back then, who ever was in that area ( the Sumerians ? ) didnt seem to know about them . After these people 'disappeared' ( the record of their events comes to an abrupt end - victims of the 'Bronze Age Collapse' ? ) we know no more about them until the first written Assyrian accounts of them as 'Pasa' coming down from the mountains ( wilderness ) ; The Assyrians started to report 'Pasa' being a nuisance and coming down from wilderness and raiding . Actually, the many tribes to the east (headwaters of Karun river ) got so pissed off about Assyrian raids on them they started banding together , the Pasa joined them and then became known as the Persia .... who when they all kicked Assyria's arse, became the leaders (by minor matter of killing a non Persian relative leader) invaded the Tigres Euphrates area and made the area part of the new Persian Empire .... which then went back and reclaimed all their old lands back to .... well, virtually, China . Thus uniting all the 'cradles of civilisation' from Egypt, through Mesopotamia , south Central Asia (BMAC) all the way to the Indus. And making the biggest Empire ever seen . yeah.... I know ! But not as bad as the others though , they had a 'wise kingship' policy - basically, live and let live ( just dont rebel and make sure you pay your taxes ) But really, if one looks at it, it was the previous guys that did thing like raid Israel and lead thousands off to their home in slavery . The great Persian Empire leader Cyrus released them, sent them home in a caravan, with guards as protectors, and goods ... and riches enough to rebuild their Temple at Jerusalem. So, I am wondering if these H&G / pastoral 'wilderness people' the Sumerians speak of are the remnant people from the old 'Zoroastrian culture' (or 'Zoroastrian memories' ), the survives after their cultures collapsed are these people in the 'wilderness' and if that is the Zargos and if these emerging 'Pasa' in Assyrian times where their descendants ? - They certainly seemed a lot more :user friendly than the Sumerians and Assyrians .