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And I am speaking to it and both of you and anyone else under this religiously generated delusion . Either word is wrong , in this instance. Indeed , 'Men' and monkeys are both primates. The primate programme is at the base of monkey and human psychology. When events turn 'difficult' so our evolved and developed skills ( for BOTH Man and Monkey ) seem insufficient we often retreat to our 'base programmes' . ( Once when the twins were mucking up I tried " What are you? Boys or monkeys? If you wanted to be treated like a boy, behave like one then ! - I had not realised how appealing the idea was to them to act and be treated like monkeys ! That sure backfired ! ) Thats the crux of my comment ; apes or monkeys never turned, evolved or developed into 'men' ( that is Homo sapiens ) , it never happened and evolutionary theory never claimed it happened . But certain religionists 'turned the phrase' that way, to discredit the theory ... it still sticks ! ( and general publications , like Readers Digest, and similar, still present it ; " When Man evolved from the Apes. " Man and Chimp evolved from 'Homininae' around 7 million y.a. Homininae and Gorilla evolved from Hominidae around 12 mill ya , Hominidae and Orangutan evolved from Hominoidae 15 Mill ya, - Saying man evolved from apes or monkeys is like saying your cousins are your parents .

Well, I hope so . At the moment I dont think so. I feel sorry for the young'uns of today, looking at the freedom I had in my youth . I see it getting eroded everyday. I have even stopped telling them about it as I decided , what good does that do . probably just make them more depressed and feel ripped off . I am now old enough to have lived through great times ( but young enough to have missed the Vietnam call up ) , to be frank, I am glad I am old enough to be gone and not have to watch what is going to happen . I hope you find your more freedom , good luck!

I read a paper recently claiming that one of the things that happened to us to make us bad, was animal husbandry . After learning we could train animals to do our will, some bright spark ..... " Hey , maybe that would work with people too ? " After that , a whole new outlook on animals and 'other people' developed . ....... wot a mess !

With this old donkey it was " Come ... come and be free ! " - used to drive past him down the road, he lived retired on another farm in a tiny paddock by himself. I would often stop and say hello, give him a scratch, have a little conversation and offer some succulent grass from outside the fence. We had huge unused paddocks covered in deep green lush grass, a couple of horses and cows, so we asked the 'owner' of the donkey and she said, yes, take him, so we did . I believe the last few years of his life was better . . . . and maybe 'freer' .

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The old 'Florida turtle' eh ? (Apalone ferox)

Yes, a guy here one night was a little too drunk to make it home across the paddock, being a cold night, he slept cuddled up against the donkeys stomach between its legs , he said the donkey didnt mind and it was nice and warm .

'Clearing ' it up for you ????

Oh dear ! Monkeys or Apes or any current species living did not 'turn onto men' .

Ummmmm ..... " too weird for you " ? I guess thats because it never happened nor was validly claimed by any evolutionist . Of course monkeys never turned into men ! Thats why it seems weird that they did when they live side by side in the present . Really now ! Too many movies, I am guessing .

Here ya go then ... an early Christmas present ;

Magic opalised dinosaur bones ( from Australia ) ... now THAT'S a find !

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Down here we got 'Poof The Magic Dragon'