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  2. IMMHO Learning the principle is a good start for going into the methodology. It will speed up the learning process and more appreciative and encouraging. It may eliminate a lots of confusion. When you are mixing two systems and try to speak to someone the terminology just doesn't match. Then, you will have lots of explaining to do. The more you talk about it the more you're running away from the subject. It makes the listener lose interest quickly.

  3. evil running wild in the world

    old3bob replied to old3bob's topic in The Rabbit Hole

    The adharmic actions per the lowest chakras and their related hell realms and their evils are described in Hinduism as: "While the main seven-chakra system ends at the Muladhara (root chakra), some traditions describe seven additional chakras below it, extending down the legs and feet, representing deeper primal instincts, fears, and connections to the earth, including Atala, Vitala, Sutala, Talatala, Rasatala, Mahatala, and Patala" with the patala being of ruthless malice and horrible murder which we are seeing a lot of manifestation of same talking place on Earth and which btw philosophical, non-dualistic and or humanistic talk is out-right mocked and laughed at by beings operating in those lower realms. The only things that such evil recognizes are great will power and the purity of spiritual light directed against it. There is light at the end of tunnel so hanging on and guarding at muladhara and above is what all wholesome spiritual teachings are about, if we fall lower there is hell to pay.
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  5. The last four of the eight methods of Fajin https://share.google/IP8ONAwWG5JreOVdU https://share.google/wTVRqyfpVrSWNOng1
  6. The first four of the eight methods of Fajin https://share.google/Ss35xsJKPkWyCvTBE

  7. What made YOU laugh today/tonight ?

    liminal_luke replied to zerostao's topic in The Rabbit Hole

  8. The entire Torah is completely encrypted, and people are searching for these codes using computers. A pioneer in this field was mathematics professor Eliyahu Rips, who lived in Israel. Dr. Rips was a leading expert in mathematics, and he mathematically proved that the probability of a random coincidence approaches zero. This is a stab in the back for all atheists.

  9. Discovering Internal Principles Through Embodied Practice

    FluffyGuardian replied to TaiChiGringo's topic in Daoist Discussion

    Here's the key point though. If you know how to build the foundation of a house, does that mean you know how to build the walls and roof? Do you know how to install plumbing? Electrical wiring? A foundation is essential, but the skill of building it does not automatically teach you everything else required to complete the house. Not even close... That was my argument. I never said Peng isn't important to Qinna. What I said was that Peng alone does not teach Qinna, and this is demonstrated clearly in the very conversation where Qinna was argued to not even be part of Taijiquan at all. Taiji practitioners are data points, and the data is very clear: The overwhelming majority of Taijiquan practitioners do not know Qinna, despite all the talk about Peng. If Peng were sufficient to teach Qinna, this wouldn't be the case. And here's the other thing about Peng and Qinna as it relates to Yang Taijiquan that I don't see anyone talk about. First of all, Yang Taijiquan (generally speaking) are very vulnerable to Qinna; they don't have much it. For one thing, some of them like to stick their thumbs out. Some calls this the "Tiger's Mouth". From a Qinna perspective, there are methods you can use by catching the thumb. In Chen Taijiquan, at least in my line, we are taught to not stick the thumbs out because it can be caught even in Tuishou. There are reasons we also don't see Chen Style use Yang's "Peng gesture" shape-wise. You don't see Chen Style's arm with a simple inward-facing palm as the outer hand like this: Why? Because this shape is simple and has a weakness. This "Peng" in the arm is strong against onward pressure, but it's weak against downward pressure, especially at the extremities like the wrist. Chen Style's version is more complex, and they uses a compound jin of sorts. You have Peng in the arm just like Yang Style, and then you apply a twist in the forearm such that palm is facing more upwards instead of inwards. By doing this, it's strong against both onward pressure and downwards pressure. So this is an example of a practical nuance... which principles don't talk about. Chen's "Peng Gesture" is actually a "Peng + Coil Gesture". Again, we have data points. And the data suggests that Taiji practitioners, the self-proclaimed "Internal" practitioners, have far fewer applications than so-called "External" practitioners. The data says that most Taijiquan practitioners (especially Yang Style)'s applications that are shown... are like 95% "Pushing someone away". They are so lacking in diversity in applications that people (including some in this thread) believe that is all Taiji is... is pushing someone away... They seriously think... that is the ultimate goal. Pushing and shoving has become... their "Signature Move". Well... no wonder applications are so easy to recover... when the recovered application is pushing someone away.... I agree with this! But I never said a specific application was a secret... I specifically said that methodology is kept private. Shen Fa is a methodology, and in the Chen Family... it's way more complex there simply Peng.

  10. Abbot of Shaolin Temple Arrested

    SodaChanh replied to Iskote's topic in General Discussion

    Suppression of sexual desires never works. One good example of a couple that had qualities of real love and being awakened was Sailor Bob Adamson and Sailor Kat.
  11. So how many of us recognize that evil is more or less running wild in the world with horrific actions, (and that in most cases silence anywhere or by anyone about same is an indirect form of helping that evil) none of the great masters so often quoted here were silent when it came to dealing with evil...aka the adharmic.
  12. Since you have mentioned the biological systems of connective tissue and nervous system, have you gone deeper into the body cell level? Like an "action potential" that is so characteristic of the nervous system. Sorry, this is a microscopic question entering modern science. Most of the martial artists are not concerned with the internal function of the body. However, our body was affected by our practice. There are some biological changes in the body. I think it is worthwhile to investigate the biochemical effects inside the body cells. What do you think?

  13. Endless desire

    Nungali replied to Cadcam's topic in Buddhist Discussion

    To 'visualize' (as opposed to seeing ) is done with the imagination . Visualizing with a friend does not fulfill the definition of remote viewing , nor does the link support your definition ... no 'friend' is required to do or prove remote viewing .

  14. Discovering Internal Principles Through Embodied Practice

    TaiChiGringo replied to TaiChiGringo's topic in Daoist Discussion

    Now our perspectives are starting to diverge, but thatā€™s a good thing, it makes for an interesting discussion šŸ™‚ From my perspective, Peng is absolutely foundational to both applying and reversing qinna. Peng is the internal inflation that gives structural integrity: itā€™s what makes your own ā€œhoseā€ difficult to kink, and what allows you to effectively kink someone elseā€™s. Without that internal fullness and continuity, qinna tends to become local, muscular, and easily countered. Peng is also inseparable from Ting Jin. Without Ting Jin, you donā€™t reliably perceive the opponentā€™s internal state, direction, or vulnerability, and without that perception, applying qinna becomes guesswork rather than skill. In that sense, Peng isnā€™t just supportive of qinna, itā€™s what makes refined qinna possible at all. That said, I completely agree that form alone does not produce functional skill. Partner work is essential. But in traditional internal training, partner work is introduced after the body method has been sufficiently forged. This sequencing is intentional. The uniqueness of internal martial arts lies precisely here: they prioritize the development of internal body capacity first, and only later does it become functional skill, when you learn to express it through specific applications. This difference in emphasis is also reflected in Chen Fakeā€™s oft-quoted view that roughly 90% of training should be done alone, with only about 10% in partner work. That ratio is almost the inverse of most external or modern martial arts, where partner drilling dominates. The reason for this inversion isnā€™t philosophical, itā€™s practical: in internal arts, the primary task is forging the body method itself, which must be developed independently before it can function reliably under contact. So when I say the body method (Shen Fa) is the method, thatā€™s not philosophical, itā€™s literal. Peng isnā€™t a concept you apply on top of technique; itā€™s a trained internal condition that techniques emerge from and are constrained by. Without it, you can still learn qinna, sweeps, counters, but they will be external, conditional, and limited. I also want to push back a bit on the idea that ā€œactual training methods are kept private", while talking about principles reveals nothing. I think that framing slightly misses whatā€™s really going on. The real dividing line isnā€™t principles vs. methods, itā€™s what can actually be transmitted without a teacher. You can talk about Peng endlessly, but talking about Peng does not give someone Peng. Likewise, you can talk about qinna, show qinna on video, or even break it down step by step, and none of that grants the ability to apply it internally. Without the internal body method, those methods are functionally hollow. In fact, Iā€™d argue the opposite of what you seem to be suggesting: Applications are far easier to recover than the internal body method. Two bodies interacting can rediscover joint locks, sweeps, counters, and punishments. That kind of knowledge is mechanically available. But Peng, the internal inflation, continuity, and load-bearing integrity of the body, is far more elusive. Itā€™s not obvious, not visible, and not intuitive. Once that is lost, itā€™s extremely hard to reconstruct. Thatā€™s why, historically, the ā€œsecretā€ was never really a specific application. The secret was the body method. Once Peng is genuinely present, applications stop being mysterious, you can feel where to apply force, where structure breaks, where control emerges. Without it, no amount of application knowledge closes the gap. So yes, talking reveals little, but thatā€™s true of both principles and applications. What actually matters is whether the internal condition of the body is being cultivated. And thatā€™s precisely the thing that cannot be learned from words, videos, or public discussion, and the thing most easily lost if it isnā€™t preserved carefully. I think we may actually agree more than it first appears. There is far too much pontificating about principles in the abstract. Where I differ is that I donā€™t see this as an error of emphasis so much as an error of intellectualization, trying to think oneā€™s way into something that can only be embodied. Ultimately, whether weā€™re talking about principles, methods, or applications, the real issue is the same: the vast majority of people simply donā€™t have the principles in their bodies.

  15. Yoga & Qigong - Compared (by you)

    ChiDragon replied to vivekji108's topic in General Discussion

    Hi, the reason that Yoga is more popular. It is because there are more people teaching it. I see a lot of signs of Yoga studio on the streets. I don't see any signs for Qigong studio. When people say that they practice or teaching Qogong, I was always puzzled what and how their practice was. Some said it has nothing to do with breathing and some said it does. Thus I am a bit confused what the public know about Qigong. If it is not a trade secret to tell, I would to hear your opinion what Qigong is all about? How do you practice it?
  16. Sticking and following is to practice ting jin(听勁) in push-hand. In combat, the final result is still send the opponent away from you. I don't know if you understand the principle of Sticking and following, ting jin then push. The key is in ting jin, it tells you when to push the opponent. If you can answer this question, then you will know the principle of push-hand. Perhaps, you may observe it from here: At 1:31 the opponent made a mistake, that is where you take advantage to push the opponent away.

  17. Endless desire

    Lairg replied to Cadcam's topic in Buddhist Discussion

    You might want to work on that. Seeing organs can be developed on every plane. Notice how what you imagine changes slightly when you look closely. Why is that? More practice may help. Also visualize the same aspect of reality with a friend. Intelligence agencies call that: Remote Viewing. It takes a bit of practice https://duckduckgo.com/?q=+military+Remote_viewing&atb=v499-1&kbg=-1&ia=web Most humans develop inner touch first. They feel energies before they can see. Some humans anchor more than one flow of the non-dual. That seems increase spiritual intent in those humans I test that proposition by looking at the entity for the additional flows of the non-dual. If there is only one flow, the entity exists only in the dual.

  18. Discovering Internal Principles Through Embodied Practice

    FluffyGuardian replied to TaiChiGringo's topic in Daoist Discussion

    Do you realize youā€™re contradicting yourself? Taijiquan is famous for sticking and following, yet you're implying it "pushes people away" and avoids disable/control. At the same time, you describe Qinna as disabling and controlling the opponent, which is achieved precisely by sticking, following, listening, and maintaining contact. That sounds like something Taiji people wish they could do... You say Taiji and Qinna are "apples and oranges," different styles and methods. Then you say all martial styles share similar techniques. Those two claims cannot both be true. If Qinna truly shares no techniques with Taiji, then you can't say they share similar techniques. If techniques are shared across styles, then there is no problem acknowledging Qinna methods are within Taijiquan.

  19. Endless desire

    stirling replied to Cadcam's topic in Buddhist Discussion

    Yes, the common metaphor amongst the Advaitans is that of a fountain - the non-duality creating the illusion of duality moment to moment. In Buddhism this is the Dharmakaya the moment to moment arising and passing of all phenomena that we label. Intent, like any other thing that arises, including what you might think of as "your' thoughts, also arise from this infinite field of possibility impersonally.

  20. Endless desire

    stirling replied to Cadcam's topic in Buddhist Discussion

    Creating an image in your head seems like imagination to me? The imaginal is necessarily "self" bound and dependent, not the deeper reality on the non-dual. For example, while I also have my own imagination and things imagined, they do not include "sense organs on every plane and subplane". This is an imaginal realm that makes sense to you, but not any kind of reality that we could discuss on equal footing. If you had insight in the the non-dual nature of reality we would have no trouble talking about it and understanding one another because it is possible to see RIGHT here RIGHT now as the salient quality of reality. While I have had experiences seeing things some might label gods, goddesses, angels, demons, etc. I gnow that they don't have any permanence or any real separateness of their own, because even THEY have non-duality as their obvious salient quality.
  21. All martial styles has these similar techniques. You can't lump all the styles together and be confused about them. PS Please keep in mind, a competent Taiji practitioner has a Taji body.
  22. Ginna do not push the opponent away from the body like Taiji. The goal of Ginna is to disable and control the opponent.
  23. Yesterday

  24. Discovering Internal Principles Through Embodied Practice

    FluffyGuardian replied to TaiChiGringo's topic in Daoist Discussion

    Here is Chen Yu, grandson of Chen Fa;ke of the Chen Family, doing some of the same Qinna as your Qinna video In Aikido.... this is called Nikyo. In Chinese martial arts... this is everywhere. White Crane has it... Bajjiquan has it... Taijiquan has it (or some who preserved it still do at least)... but like... this is very common in martial arts across culture. Chinese martial arts are said to have four genres: Ti (Kick), Da (Hit), Shuai (Throw), Na (Grasp).

  25. Endless desire

    old3bob replied to Cadcam's topic in Buddhist Discussion

    me thinks emanation is also and accurate pointer, and it could be said that with more permutations the more intent normally gets watered down in the manifest.
  26. This is Ginna, not Taiji

  27. Discovering Internal Principles Through Embodied Practice

    FluffyGuardian replied to TaiChiGringo's topic in Daoist Discussion

    Well, earlier, you mentioned how Taiji and Qinna were "two methods and styles". And that Qinna involves a lot of grabbing. And that they are so different that you said: "you are comparing apples and oranges!" And then... you showed me a Tai Chi video... of a guy using... Qinna... In other words... the video is titled apple, and the content was about oranges.
  28. I have no idea what is in your mind. If you are more consistent, then you might be!
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