tao stillness

I heard him talk of this when I learned qigong from him. Spring Forest was the first form that I learned.

Yes, I was referring to Dr. Yan. He is most likely the master whom Chunyi Lin was crediting for healing his injured knee. It's strange that videos has been taken off YouTube that concern Dr. Yan. I listened to one of his lectures but I didn't feel anything from it. That doesn't mean his work is not effective. It's just that I could not sense his energy.

For those who cannot afford to pay the fee to learn Spontaneous Five Animal Play but do want to experience spontaneous Qi flow, for whatever reason, I would recommend you buy Sifu Jenny Lamb's qigong DVD and practice her Spontaneous Adjustment Qigong and I assure you that you will very quickly experience to some degree body parts moving on their own due to flow of Qi. Requires just sitting down and holding hands in a certain manner and lifting your heels off the ground. It is that simple and easy to learn and do. Of course, I am not saying that you will have the healing results that you would get from Spontaneous Five Animal Play. I am just saying this is a method for those who want to experience spontaneous Qi flow and movement in a very easy, quick and inexpensive way. I do think that learning any method in the traditional manner that it was meant to be taught is important. There are certain methods that just do not work well when self-taught. So my input here is for those who do not wish to try Spontaneous Five Animals Play on their own, but do want to learn a way to have an experience of spontaneous Qi movement. For Jenny Lamb method to work I found out, for me, at least, that I had to have had a full night of sleep or it would not work. And it also did not work at night when I was fatigued. But that might just be because of my make up. For me it did not work every day. It was hit and miss. But once again, that just could be due to my nervous system, energy blocks, etc. Jenny Lamb taught her method to Max who then tweaked it just a tiny bit with the hand position and he renamed the method, Kunlun Method. But one and the same. I say this because I learned from Jenny Lamb's DVD and then later I learned Kun Lun Method directly from Max in a private session. It took about 3 minutes to learn. There is no danger in learning Jenny Lamb or Kun Lun methods.

In terms of recommending Pangu I am wondering how one gets past the boredom of doing that routine? I posted in years past my amazing overnight healing from a serious virus by doing Pangu Qigong but I did not continue with for that long because it was very boring doing it. But it is simple and very effective.

llOf the 80-90 different styles of Qigong that I have tried I find none easier to do than Fragrant Qigong and it has tested as being very effective. The good news is that there probably is a German dvd of this from Emil who learns all these different qigong methods and then puts them on dvds to sell on his website. I can't recall his last name but if you search under emil doing qigong on youtube you will see his many youtube demos of qigong there and that will lead you to his website. I recently visited my 93 year old mother with the intention of teaching her qigong and I chose Fragrant Qigong for her but she said her arm motion limited so she did not want to even try it. But I believe she could have done it.

Also to Star Jumper, there is no way to do the level 2 Fragrant Qigong properly from any you tube video unless you understand Chinese. This is because there are movements done where you have to work your legs in a way that is opposite to the side you are moving your hands to, etc. That requires teaching and practice which is available in English on John Dolic's dvd of this form. I learned levels one and two from his dvds. Then you can follow along with the youtube videos of Master Tian's daughters doing the forms. I would not trust any other posted videos of Fragrant Qigong because even as a novice I noticed mistakes being made. My wife strongly smelled the scent of flowers when she tried doing Fragrant Qigong the first time and she smells it when I have done the form in the same room as she is in. But I have yet to smell anything, nor have I felt anything other than the typical chi sensation in the hands. And that is all I have felt from any of the other 80-90 methods of qigong that I have tried.

In reply to Star Jumper, I was also doing one method from Chi-Lel/Zhineng along with the Fragrant Qigong. The method from Chi-Lel is a common posture they call La Chi. It is the one where you look like you are playing an accordion. Palms face each other close to each other and you then open them apart and then come back together. In Spring Forest Qigong this posture is known as Breathing the Universe. For the first 10 days that I did these 2 qigong methods I did not have to wake up in the middle of the night to go to the bathroom, an age related condition of prostate gland. However, after several days things reverted back to how they used to be so that was a brief and temporary healing only. That was disappointing. But it could due to the fact that I slacked off doing the La Chi posture. It was tested that doing it for 30 minutes would be the optimum amount of time. But I stopped doing that much. So I need to go back to doing it for the recommended amount time like I did for the first 10 days to see if the condition again improves.

I have received some advice from a teacher of Fragrant Qigong who studies TCM and qigong for several years in China and he has visited the Tian family. He told me that other qigong methods can be done with Fragrant Qigong just as long as they do not involve unnatural breathing methods and do not use visualization or guiding the Qi mentally. I have never smelled any fragrance but my smelled fragrance strongly the first time she tried Fragrant Qigong and each time she has tried it. She also can taste flowers in the Fragrant Qigong water that I make following Master Tian's method for that. But I have never tasted anything from the water. Yet the method works regardless of what is being sensed or not sensed. Some people base their evaluation of qigong methods by the experiences or sensations that they have from it. That would be a mistake since you cannot determine what the Qi is really doing for you during the practice. I want to clarify the post that I wrote in January of 2018 when I said that Earl Grey's teacher visited Master Tian's family and Master Tian is alive and well. I since have spoken with that person and he said he visited the family but Master Tian was not there. So it would be incorrect for me to report that he said Master Tian is alive and well. From what I read in the book it seems that Fragrant Qigong is most powerful for healing when done in very large groups. But I have also heard of testimonials from people doing FQ alone. As for learning the method from videos I have John Dolic's dvds and I find that the posted youtube videos on this thread done by Master Tian's daughters are done in the same way that John Dolic performs them. But you do need instruction for the do's and don'ts so you would need John's dvds for level one and two if you do not understand Mandarin. And a reminder that different qigong methods do different things for different people. I did Flying Phoenix Chi Kung for 2 years and did not heal anything. I did Fragrant Qigong and after the first night it improved a medical condition that I had for 20-30 years. So different strokes for different folks. But if someone wants to feel chi very strongly, then Flying Phoenix most likely will do that for most people. I always enjoyed doing Flying Phoenix but my lifestyle never permitted enough time for it.

After many months of doing the Eddie Chong method I never felt any kundalini going up the spine as forecast by Eric Isen the medical intuitive. Since I was unaware of any results from this method I dropped it regardless of the glowing test results. Decades ago when doing the correct method for Patanjalis Yoga Sutras, as only taught thru the Transcendental Meditation program, I definitely felt strong kundalini rising up the spine that reached the crown chakra and lit up my brain with colors and explosions of bliss and love. So if Kundalini is rising up the spine, there is no way to miss that happening. And nothing was happening from doing the Eddie Chong Chi Kung. Since my nervous system or brain is probably blocking chi kung methods from working, I will no longer post any test results from Eric Isen unless I later have some kind of experiences from any energy method. Other people that have tried some of the methods that Eric has tested for me do have great results. So I am not saying that Eric's testing is inaccurate. I am just sayin I am lacking in being able to register any benefits in most cases. There have been exceptions to this but it has been a number of years since having legit experiences from chi kung other than strong sensation of chi in my hands. And that is not notable at all since it is what most beginners soon feel whenever they do chi kung for the first time. So as of July 16, 2018 signing off until I have experiences to report rather than just great test results.

I don't think he was a fake because Chunyi Lin talks about going to a soccer stadium where this master was transmitting Qi and Lin's old basketball injured knee suddenly was healed. The subject of this thread was the master there.

Jenny Lamb is indeed thriving. My cousin lives in the Denver area and he told me the town that Jenny lives in is a community of very wealthy people. Someone who took a class in her house told me that it is loaded with expensive statues and other such items. Just inquire about what she charges for removing entities if she informs you that you have to come to her in person for that type of work.

The above complaints about Sifu Dan La Rochelle surprise me because over the last 5 years he has always replied to any questions I had about what he offers on his website. The Rizzo brothers have also always replied to my questions about their products and they were the ones who informed me of Doo Wai's health issues with the strokes. As far as Flying Phoenix taking too long to do, I totally agree with that. And that is the only shortcoming I find in that system. The quality of those dvds by Terry Dunn is beyond what most other qigong dvds look like. The question about if there are any qigong methods out there which do not take as long as FP but are equally or more beneficial can only be answered on an individual basis that would take a legitimate medical clairvoyant to determine. That is how I determine which qigong methods I currently practice. Each method is relative to other methods and is always based on your individual condition of your nervous system, energy blocks, etc. There is no way to determine this on your own. As for the crazy high prices for some of Doo Wai videos, I was told by a few of his students that the price relates to how powerful the claimed benefits are for that particular qigong method from the Doo Wai family lineage. That is why 690 AD method costs $300. Some of the Doo Wai students were charged $30,000 for Doo Wai to make them a video of a certain qigong form. PT Barnum said it best.

I used to automatically assume that any spiritual method that charged a super high amount of money was just a scam. But then the organization that I have belonged to for the past 45 years, Transcendental Meditation, one day raised their initiation fee to the crazy price of $1,500. In 1973 I paid $75 to learn T.M. So the method being taught by Ausar has to be evaluated by something other than his very high price. For $30 I know of a medical clairvoyant that I have used for over 20 years who can tell me whatever I want to find out about this method.

,You won't find a thread about Wu Wei Qigong anywhere. The little that is disclosed about is found on the site that sells the dvd, Purple Plum Pubications. Their series is called Chinese Living Treasures and they carry Master George Xu's dvds. He is a well known martial artist in the San Francisco Bay area. To ask questions about Wu Wei Qigong you could direct them to his senior student, Susan Matthews, since Master Xu usually does not reply to inquiries. From what Susan told me, Master Xu learned Wu Wei Qigong years ago from a Master in Shanghai and this was before Falun Gong was introduced by Master Li. And I prefer Wu Wei Qigong to Falun Gong because the static postures are not to be held anywhere near as long as Falun Gong requires. Falun wants you to hold a static posture for as long as you can. I found that the more I practiced the form the longer I could hold the postures and it was becoming 25 minutes for each posture but I had a life to live and could not devote that kind of time to qigong. With Wu Wei Qigong 5 minutes was fine and no more than 10 minutes per static posture. And there was no prohibition against doing any other type of Qigong like Falun Gong warns. Both systems automatically install an energy wheel which spins in your lower dan tian acting to bring in Qi, and also to expel bad Qi on a 24/7 basis. So doing the form serves to keep the wheel working at maximum capacity. My medical clairvoyant reported that Wu Wei Qigong is more powerful than doing Falun Qigong and the wheel from Wu Wei has a different appearance than the wheel from Falun Gong. I think the name of the form, Wu Wei, is what confuses some people. I just ignored the name rather than racking my brain about what it had to do with the form. So that is all that I know about this subject. And Wu Wei being considered to mean "nothing", would be like saying the vacuum state of quantum physics is empty. Or that the Tao contains nothing or that outer space is just space.

Yes, that is the correct dvd. I own that one but at the time some years ago when I got it I was not able to figure out how to do them since they are demo only and not instructional. Someone now might be able to learn them by using VLC player to get rid of the mirrored image and by slowing down the speed. When Doo Wai says something is high level, it is not an exaggeration since Eric over the years has confirmed that. And thus some people are just not ready for the high level meds of Doo Wai since their nervous system does not yet support some of the energies from his advanced stuff.