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On 12/29/2017 at 10:29 AM, KuroShiro said:

 

Is Chi-Lel/Zhineng the same as Dr. Pang Ming's Zhineng Qigong?

Zhineng Qigong seems to be very powerful but I know very little about it's history and don't know who taught Dr. Pang Ming.There are several books written by Dr. Ming, some of them have been translated to English.

Yes they are the same. Dr. Ming was the originator of zhineng/wisdom healing qigong/chi-lel qigong.

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On ‎3‎/‎17‎/‎2017 at 10:56 PM, tao stillness said:

The following are test results of my latest find, Pan Nam's Five Petal Plum Chi Kung also called "Kidney Breathing Returns Chi to Source." The dvd arrived today and within an hour or so Eric tested it.

I used a new spiritual device that I obtained in order to manifest desires and I asked for the right chi kung method for me so that I can stick with it and stop searching for the right method.

 

From Eric:

Wow. Most powerful system I have ever tested. Really gets the Kundalini activated. Works on liver, spleen and pretty much all over the body. Great for health and spiritual development. 

 

Qi goes up the spine. Cleansing and purifying. In later stages of practice will do much more.

 

Eric

 

 

 

 

 

Hi Eric,

Would you please test this very unique style of Chi Kung dvd called, Kidney Breathing Returns Chi to Source with Grand Master Eddie Chong.

It was taught by famous Wing Chun kung fu Master Pan Nam in Fushan, China. Eddie Chong was one of only 10 students who Pan Nam taught this chi kung to because in the wrong hands it could be used for something other than health purposes.

Steve

After many months of doing the Eddie Chong method I never felt any kundalini going up the spine as forecast by Eric Isen the medical intuitive. Since I was unaware of any results from this method I dropped it regardless of the glowing test results. Decades ago when doing the correct method for Patanjalis Yoga Sutras, as only taught thru the Transcendental Meditation program, I definitely felt strong kundalini rising up the spine that reached the crown chakra and lit up my brain with colors and explosions of bliss and love. So if Kundalini is rising up the spine, there is no way to miss that happening. And nothing was happening from doing the Eddie Chong Chi Kung.

Since my nervous system or brain is probably blocking chi kung methods from working, I will no longer post any test results from Eric Isen unless I later have some kind of experiences from any energy method. Other people that have tried some of the methods that Eric has tested for me do have great results. So I am not saying that Eric's testing is inaccurate. I am just sayin I am lacking in being able to register any benefits in most cases. There have been exceptions to this but it has been a number of years since having legit experiences from chi kung other than strong sensation of chi in my hands. And that is not notable at all since it is what most beginners soon feel whenever they do chi kung for the first time.

So as of July 16, 2018 signing off until I have experiences to report rather than just great test results.

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A sensitive teacher connects you with the seed of your existence (identity) so that your cultivation is of that seed itself.
So that you are working on your real self.
Rather than of "energy".
Self contact and energy must go together otherwise that energy is just peripheral and meaningless for your growth.
Can powerful energy awaken you ? ... difficult to see how unless you want to awaken.
Awakening is not mainly energetic, it is self-contact self-identification self-understanding.
Feeling the subject inside, and recognizing the subject as ... me.
It is self-contact and self-remembering that survives death.
Without that ... who is it that would even survive death ?
Who owns the energy ?

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On 08.02.2017 at 10:42 AM, tao stillness said:

Anyone here have experience with Master Fu's Emei Wuji Qigong form?

His manual for the method contains the most detailed explanation I have ever read for each movement of the form in terms of the benefits and why it is able to create that particular benefit.

If this topic or this questions still alive, I'd like to reply.
I am former advanced student of Grandmaster Fu Wei Zhong, 13th Lineage Holder of Emei Qigong School.

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On 08.02.2017 at 10:42 AM, tao stillness said:

Anyone here have experience with Master Fu's Emei Wuji Qigong form?

His manual for the method contains the most detailed explanation I have ever read for each movement of the form in terms of the benefits and why it is able to create that particular benefit.

And also I amd 4th level on his teaching system. 
Practicing Wuji Gong and other methods regularly. 

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On 08.02.2017 at 10:42 AM, tao stillness said:

Anyone here have experience with Master Fu's Emei Wuji Qigong form?

His manual for the method contains the most detailed explanation I have ever read for each movement of the form in terms of the benefits and why it is able to create that particular benefit.

The main form in the school is Wuji Gong. For Qigong practice I mean. 

In the begining of the teaching we are learning Emei Qigong System has some specific rules. Such as in first 2 levels we mostly work on ourselves. Like %70 to self development %30 to help others. 

Coz Emei Qigong has two different disciplines. Taoism and Buddhism. Uses both traditions works. 

Yes you will find mostly explained and also clearly explained informations about the exercises and practices. Most of them not open to all. If you were a student of any Emei Qigong teacher, the knowledge will open to you. 

For all levels of Emei Qigong practices I can easly say that you/we have to practice too much. Like every other practices.

Why I chose this path? 
 

I was a student of David Verdesi and some other else's. I realized that I don't like power based systems. I am looking for enlightment. I only need developing my wisdom, nourising myself, and realize my true being. The Emei Qigong is very simple. So simple but also deeper. After you practiced for a while you will understand many things about Qigong and cultivating the inner and outer parts or self. Not only cultivating Qi. 

If we were talking about cultivating Qi, what we will plen to do with it? Having some super powers like John Chang or Jiang Feng etc, or becoming a good person? If we weren't using the cultivated Qi to help others, will we want to become an immortal?

I simply chose developing myself and helping others. This is my reason to choose Emei Qigong.

Also Grandmaster Fu Weizhong, really so so kind teacher. I couldn't find any question that he couldn't answer. When my questions were silly, he alsways replied me in a polite way ans he said: "You don't need this information on your teachings or on your practices, if you'd like to become a disciple or a monk you will learn." :)

Grandmaster Fu Weizhong's mission is teaching the Emei Qigong's treasure to the world. There are too many jewels like Emei Qigong I think. Most of you already found and you already started to practice. Each way has own jewels. They are waiitng us to find whee they are hidin. :)

 

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On 7/16/2018 at 4:33 PM, tao stillness said:

After many months of doing the Eddie Chong method I never felt any kundalini going up the spine as forecast by Eric Isen the medical intuitive. Since I was unaware of any results from this method I dropped it regardless of the glowing test results. Decades ago when doing the correct method for Patanjalis Yoga Sutras, as only taught thru the Transcendental Meditation program, I definitely felt strong kundalini rising up the spine that reached the crown chakra and lit up my brain with colors and explosions of bliss and love. So if Kundalini is rising up the spine, there is no way to miss that happening. And nothing was happening from doing the Eddie Chong Chi Kung.

Since my nervous system or brain is probably blocking chi kung methods from working, I will no longer post any test results from Eric Isen unless I later have some kind of experiences from any energy method. Other people that have tried some of the methods that Eric has tested for me do have great results. So I am not saying that Eric's testing is inaccurate. I am just sayin I am lacking in being able to register any benefits in most cases. There have been exceptions to this but it has been a number of years since having legit experiences from chi kung other than strong sensation of chi in my hands. And that is not notable at all since it is what most beginners soon feel whenever they do chi kung for the first time.

So as of July 16, 2018 signing off until I have experiences to report rather than just great test results.

 

I suggest you find a healer who heals with Divine energy. That will heal you, at least that is what I sense. I can suggest specific types of healing in a PM. 

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I have developed a revolutionary concept that might be helpful. 

 

1) Pick a system, any system where the main instructors have developed the qualities you are striving for. 

 

2) Learn from an instructor, and continue to practice that system only so your bodymind get shaped by that system. 

 

3) Learn more about that system, and practice the hell out of it. 

 

4) Continue for a decade or three. 

 

I call this the Mudfoot approach, and to be able to use it dial 1-800-GIMMEYOURMONEY and I will licence you. 

 

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Hello,

I study several systems and need some month or years to go deeper into each of them, I try to not mix them because my test have prove that  is counterproductive for most of qigong even if it is still possible to find a good combination on daily basis. Most of the qigong dvd offered are not produced by true lineage excepted few and among the best ones have already be given into this topic. 

I have myself found high value into the reading of each message here. As we speak about potent systems I think that Qinway Qigong dvd is powerful and effective as it is easy to do and send energy signal transmission to the practicer, it is called recharge qigong so it has a great value regarding health,rejuvenation, cleasing and activation of energy systems. It is also very good to add the yin yang tea for few month and perhaps to wear some energised items all the time like a pendant to keep the signal always near the body. Another one is Pangu who is very strange and very easy but has great effect if done everyday during at least 6 month in a row and I think that is good to read the 3 books about Pangu " The path of life" as it is a way to receive the energy transmission also the calligraphy of Master Ou give high value energy who help healing and spiritual awakening. Another form is Falun Gong but I cant say anything about it as I have choose to follow other path. Yan Xin qigong a great one and among the most advanced form need to receive energy activation from a recorded lecture of the NINE STEPS ( easily available at this time), great but need time and dedication.

Fragrant Qigong is very potent system even at level 1 it can help health and spiritual evolution, at level 2 psychic/clairvoyance can occur. I think that is best to practice one session in the morning and another one during the evening without obsession.  Master Tian family send Fragrant water empowerment everyday to help every practicer and even non practicer of Xiang gong.

There is also the Quan Yin Magnetic Qigong from Wu Lao Xie who can be of great help.

Recently I have also start to study the Gods Playing in the Cloud Qigong who seem to be a true lineage Qigong with a deep teaching.

I dont know if there is other easy but really potent qigong out there but these ones have great value if done on daily basis. Also it can be good to try each of them during 3-6 month and write the feeling, experience, effect. Then after the testing process the best and wise way is to choose only one and stick to it.

Tao Stilness have perhaps tried too much systems or from different tradition and have locked some energetic circuit into the body. I suggest to unlock them first before to do anything else. Perhaps a good master can do that for you.

Eclair Blanc

 

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