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Hi Kshanti,

 

I can't really answer your question without more information such as your answers to: "What are you feeling from doing each of the FP Meditations?  And better yet, if I saw your practice of exercises like Bending the Bows, Wind Through Treetops, Moonbeam, and the Vol.4 Long Form Meditation.

 

Overall, it sounds like you are doing quite well, having practiced for 2 years and having taught yourself the  Long Form Standing Meditation from the Vol.4 DVD.

 

For two years I did the seated and standing beginner meditations dvd's 1,2 and 3 . Usually twice a day for 30 minutes or either 2 sitting or 2 standing or all 4 together or spread out throughout day. Maybe 3-5x/week. Once I memorized the standing long meditation dvd 4 that's pretty much all I do now with 1or 2 of the advanced seated meditations which I cycle through. So my practice can take maybe 15-40 minutes depending if I just do the standing long form alone or if I add on extras.

 

15 to 40 minutes of practice a day is a wide range.  But since you've been practicing for two years, I assume that you've spent equal time on all the FP Meditations on Volumes 1 through 4.  Based on your durations of practice stated above, I would suggest that you increase your time of practice in one session and try to do a 60 to 90 minute session once a day.  This may be difficult to work into your daily schedule.  But if you can manage the time, try it as an experiment.  The continuity of practicing gotten through a 60 to 90 minute  practice session wiil probably advance and further your FP energy cultivation in a significant way.  Every FP Qigong class I teach is 2 full hours.  Last week, I one inspired class ran 3.5 hours.

Another question is how should we integrate the standing flash meditations-is it good to do 1, 2 or more ? Can they be done alone if we lack time to do anything else?

 

Yes, the the 5 meditations on Vol.5 and all the FP Meditations in the preceding 4 dvd volumes can be practiced stand-alone if you're greatly constrained time-wise.  In the beginning, for any of the DVD volumes (e.g., Volumes 1 and 2), it is very productive to practice through the entire DVD volume.  The same is true of Volume 5.  Try practicing all the Vol. 5 meditations right after you do the Vol.4 Long Form Med.  That shouldn't take more than 25-30 minutes, since each of the 5 takes 90 seconds to 2 minutes.

 

I don't know if you've gotten to this 2016-17 postings, but one big piece of advice I started giving last year was to practice three (3) the seated Monk Serves Wine meditations at a sitting.

 

Again, the best means for me to answer your question is for me to view your practice of the standing moving FP Meditations mentioned abover.  Over the past 4 years, I've been giving I  feedback and plenty of form and other corrections to FP practitioners/Daobums subscribers via private online tutorials using Skype or Facetime.  If you're interested, contact me through PM or at this address and I will give you more info about Skype lessons:  zenbearinc@gmail.com

 

Enjoy your expanded practice.

 

 

Sifu Terry Dunn

 

www.taichimania.com/chikung_catalog.html

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Thank you so much for all of this advice Sifu Terry. I've tried a few suggestions so far ( long form med standing vol 4 followed by all Dvd 5. Tonight I tried 3 Seated MSW in a row) and I can definately feel that spending more time is key. I just have to do it! Eventually I do plan on contacting you for a private session.

 

Many thanks again

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Hi everyone, I have a question for Sifu Terry, but anyone can respond if you know the answer. I know we are not supposed to sinchronize our breath with the movements, but during my practice of the 1st basic seated meditation, when I start turning the palms, I like to inhale, while hand palms are facing each other and then turn the palms when I exhale. It just so happens that my breath rate corresponds perfectly with the slow turning of my hands. I dont conciously have to think of my breathing, I just let it happen on its own (when I always start with an inhale, before beginning with the hand movements). I have tried to disconnect the breaths from the hand movements, but something feels off and my "rhythm" feels unnatural if that makes sense. The energy effect of exhale corresponding with turning the palms feels stronger, where I feel more of the "brain washing" effect. Maybe this is just all in my head LOL.

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As I understood it is perfectly fine when the breath synchronizes with the movements, but the main-focus should be the movements. This means you focus on the movements, especially on doing them in the speed of the famous shifting sand-dune, and if then the breath synchronizes it's totally ok. I think the point is, that if every breath corresponds with a single movement the movements could be too fast, so when doing them very slowly there will probably be more than one breath per move, but at the same time synchronized, meaning full inhale or exhale and the end of the single movement.

This leads me to another question: Sometimes I unconsciously start reverse breathing and when I am getting aware of it I don't know if I should continue it or not as Zen-Bear states in the DVDs that one should breath normal. But as my body starts reverse breathing automatically I am not sure if it may be also fine to continue with it?

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It did not take long at to learn Wind Through the Tree Tops on Vol. 3.

Shortly after learning this form when it started to feel more natural to do it and after some practice when I did not have to think as much about the movements, I noticed the familiar tangible hands moving thru the thick cloud of chi from the very first movement of the form as the hands rise to come toward the throat. I know that each person experiences FP meditations differently, but this is my main experience from any of the FP meditations that I have done. Noting flashy, nothing other worldly or of spiritual significance. Just the experience that my individual nervous system allows me to have. As simple as this experience may be, it is still stronger than experiences that I have had from most of the other chi kung methods that I have learned. So I am grateful for even this most basic sensation which lets me know that Flying Phoenix Chi Kung is different than any other type of chi kung.

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On 5/8/2017 at 6:22 AM, Astral_butterfly said:

Dear Sifu Terry

 

After my Monk Gazing at the Moon med, I always have the urge to do a "normal" sitting meditation. At this time, my mind it at its clearest and most favourable for a fantastic exercise of stillness and therefore connection to anything I want. In this time I can tune in to a person or situation with great clarity.

 

Could you please tell me what would logically be happening at this time? Being fresh out of FPCK, I am still in its energy. But am I still cultivating or am I circulating it? I ask this question because it feels like I am still cultivating it. Am I imagining this?

 

I also wanted to say that you mentioned a lady developing clair audience from FPCK. Well I was clairaudient before but now I am learning to "tune" it. It is quite remarkable that I should discover this ability that I never suspected myself to have. It appears that FPCK is teaching me to navigate states of consciousness that allow me to tap into various repositories of energetic information, from hearing.

 

I thought it would develop my ability to surf states of consciousness but I never knew it would start like this (from hearing) so it is a lovely and welcome surprise, thank you Sifu. This way I can also build connections that allow for healing energies to pass through me and be transmitted to the person of my choice, with the same channel used for hearing, as obscure as that may sound...

 

Once I feel the blissful love, it is not easy to come out and want to do any other med, so I try to get what I want done first and do MGM last, just to benefit from this sublime sitting meditation.

 

Thanks for any response.

 

With all my appreciation

 

A_B

Hello A_B,

 

Here are answers  to your questions:

 

Could you please tell me what would logically be happening at this time? Being fresh out of FPCK, I am still in its energy. But am I still cultivating or am I circulating it? I ask this question because it feels like I am still cultivating it. Am I imagining this?

 

Once you have taken 3 deep breathes to count yourself out of the last FP Meditation, you are no longer doing that Qigong and its  specific cultivation.  You are feeling the energizing, healing and rejuvenating effects.  If one practrices FP Qigong for a number of hours--say 3 to 4 hours-- then the cultivation might be felt to continue afterwards for some time.  Also recall that many FP Practitioners have reported here that they experienced strong coming on of FP Healing Energy the next day 12 or 24 hours after a particular practice session.


I also wanted to say that you mentioned a lady developing clair audience from FPCK. Well I was clairaudient before but now I am learning to "tune" it. It is quite remarkable that I should discover this ability that I never suspected myself to have.

 

Yes, FP Qigong practice will activate and bring to the fore all latent powers that one has. Some have great natural potential for clairaudience, some for remote vision, some for scrying and out of body yogas, some have natural talent for projecting energy without touching.  

 

It appears that FPCK is teaching me to navigate states of consciousness that allow me to tap into various repositories of energetic information, from hearing.

 

Yes, FPCK as a powerful system of concentrative meditation develops consummate visualization power, mental concentration to be able to navigate various planes of consciousness, which I will call jhana-absorption states.  Just normal practice of FP Qigong system that's presented on the DVD series will enable the mind to zoom through the first jhana altogether and rest in the 2nd and 3rd jhanas for many.  For the gifted, FP Qigong will accelerate  meditative power and enable one to traverse the 3rd and 4th jhanas--and go right to the edge or threshold of the FORMLESS JHANA's.  

(btw, read Daniel Goleman's "Buddha and Meditative States of Consciousness" to understand the semantic map I am using.)

 

various repositories of energetic information

 

I have no idea what you mean by these words.  But if you are auditorily accessing higher intelligences, more power to you.

 

I thought it would develop my ability to surf states of consciousness but I never knew it would start like this (from hearing) so it is a lovely and welcome surprise, thank you Sifu. This way I can also build connections that allow for healing energies to pass through me and be transmitted to the person of my choice, with the same channel used for hearing, as obscure as that may sound...

 

You are definitely auditory-dominant in terms of your frames of referencing Reality.  So if FP Qigong has enabled you to "surf" states of consciousness, I am very glad to hear it.  But don't thank me.  Thank the Flying Phoenix Qigong art, its spiritual Source, and the human tradition that has preserved it to this day.   (I strongly hope that that means to traverse different states of absorption/concentration by controlling sound energy)   Every healer has his/her way of directing healing energy towards, and if you do it through using sonic channels, more power to you.

 

Once I feel the blissful love, it is not easy to come out and want to do any other med, so I try to get what I want done first and do MGM last, just to benefit from this sublime sitting meditation.

 

Yes, the fruits of practicing FP Qigong --being healed and rejuvenated in the allostatic state, and having consciousness expanded to higher realms can be most blissful.  If you find certain FP or MSW meditations that facilitate your communion with Cosmic Love--as differentiated from just the experience of the FP Healing Energy in the body--then by all means, do more of those particular meditations that deliver you there.

 

I'm glad to hear you are getting meaningful and enjoyable results from your practice.

 

Enjoy your spiritual explorations with Flying Phoenix.

 

Sifu Terry Dunn

 

www.taichimania.com/chikung_catalog.html

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Thanks a lot Sifu, for this detailed response. I love this system and will continue inasmuch as I can :)

 

A_B

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Posted (edited)

On 5/15/2017 at 3:24 AM, Shiva33 said:

Hi everyone, I have a question for Sifu Terry, but anyone can respond if you know the answer. I know we are not supposed to sinchronize our breath with the movements, but during my practice of the 1st basic seated meditation, when I start turning the palms, I like to inhale, while hand palms are facing each other and then turn the palms when I exhale. It just so happens that my breath rate corresponds perfectly with the slow turning of my hands. I dont conciously have to think of my breathing, I just let it happen on its own (when I always start with an inhale, before beginning with the hand movements). I have tried to disconnect the breaths from the hand movements, but something feels off and my "rhythm" feels unnatural if that makes sense. The energy effect of exhale corresponding with turning the palms feels stronger, where I feel more of the "brain washing" effect. Maybe this is just all in my head LOL.

Hi Shiva33,

There is no set rule for how one should synchronize movements with breathing cycles in FP Qigong.  The only rule that I would call a hard and fast and rigid is that one MUST NOT try to synchronize movements with breath cycle to the extent of straining the breath in trying to match long movements.  There should only be relaxed normal breathing and no conscious striving to expand length of breath.  Expansion of breath cycle and tidal volume occurs naturally in the FP Qigong art--without conscious striving. The one thing I admonish against is "trying too hard."   What I have done in expounding this rule of not synchronizing breath with movements is simply to pass on Grandmaster Doo Wai's teaching.

 

If you feel most comfortable and natural with the synchronization that you've described, then continue with it.  There, however, are some natural tendencies and synchronizations that occur by themselves once one has practiced this system long enough. The body has its most natural and optimal way of moving.  All other Qigong systems and yogas worth their salt return the person to this original pristine perfectly natural form of movement.  

 

My natural tendency is that as I inhale, my forearms and palms turn from the "facing each other" position to the forward facing each at 45-degrees from the plane of my chest.  Hint, btw:   many Tai Chi masters will give oral teachings to enable their students to achieve this coordination.  

 

One does not have to subscribe to this coordination in order to get the full health benefits from FP Qigong.  I am just saying that this synchronization of breath cycle with tweaking of the wuchi (Monk Gazing at Moon) position happens to be congruent with Tai Chi internal principles.

 

Best,

 

Sifu Terry Dunn

 

www.taichimania.com/chikung_catalog.html

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whoa   I  am having a terrible time navigating this new site format ...

 

how do i get to this forum?   search no longer brings it right up ...

i have managed to stumble into it  twice,  but still not certain what the direct route might be

 

HELP

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and I posted to the thread in appreciation fo Sifu Dunn's recent post re breath ... where did that post go???

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2 minutes ago, ridingtheox said:

whoa   I  am having a terrible time navigating this new site format ...

 

how do i get to this forum?   search no longer brings it right up ...

i have managed to stumble into it  twice,  but still not certain what the direct route might be

 

HELP

 

You can click on the "filters" button and click yes on "content i have posted in" 

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completed a round of 5 standing short form:

 

starting w

4  dragon emerges   6:40

3  raise earth             7:10

2 Phx dragon play      4:50

1 spread wing             5:00

& 5 Prep 8 sect           8:40

 

these continue to grow more and more intense!   Try them you'll be pleasantly surprized as I have been I hope!

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Hello Everyone,

Last night I enjoyed a lovely Oneness Meditation session last night at the Santa Monica Unitarian Church led by the gifted Eric Isen, a Deeksha in that tradition (founded by Sri Bhagavan) who has worked full time as a medical clairvoyant since 2004...after spending 30 years as a monk in Ayurvedic traditions.  It was our joyous first meeting after years of mutually beneficial teaching of our common students/clients.  You may recall from posts by Tao Stillness starting about 2 or more years ago that he had given, one by one, most of the Flying Meditations for Eric to remotely read each one's specific therapeutic, healing effect on Tao Stillness.  Over the course of many months of Tao Stillness kindly sharing Eric's remote readings of the FP Meditations with me, I found Eric' readings to be uncannily accurate and profoundly enlightening as well, for he put into words a certain few experiences I had of each FP Meditation over the past 25 years that I had not put into words yet because Eric uses Ayurvedic language ("chakras", etc.) and I use my own based on Taoist and Buddhist terminology.

 

As I think I've posted before:  the Deeksha energy and consciousness of the Oneness Meditation movement--for which Eric Isen is a "battery"-- is very powerful, very healing, comes from a spiritual source, and is somewhat similar to Flying Phoenix Qigong in that it activates specific brain centers--but not the same brain centers as FP.  The wonderful fact is that once you master Flying Phoenix Qigong to a certain extent, you can spontaneously channel and partake of the Oneness Meditation energy channel.  Quite honestly, my brain centers and brain surface are profoundly "lighting up" as I simply type this.

So I want to take this opportunity to thank Tao Stillness in Baltimore, MD for introducing me and all the members of the FP Community to Eric Isen, who is a very fine, totally legit and effective medical clairvoyant.  That is, Eric will remotely read the health benefits or anything deleterious that would result from taking any type of  medication--eastern or western, natural-herbal or pharmaceutical, and that results from practicing any form of Yogic, Qi , Meditative or martial art exercise, or undergoing any type of medical or therapeutical,  psychotherapeautic operation, procedure.

 

I think y'all can tell from this photo below what type of a deeply compassionate and gifted teacher, guide, and healer Eric is.  He has been most helpful of course, in clarifying and corroborating for many FP practitioners and subscribers to this thread the very precise effects and effectiveness of each FP Meditation that they have asked him about.

 

Eric is also a Harvard grad, but I forgive him for that!

 

Have a very enjoyable weekend as you further explore the wonders of Flying Phoenix Qigong.

 

Sifu Terry Dunn

Eric & TD (8x5)72.jpg

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The above photo has such great energy to it! My heart flowed when I saw this.

Thank you for sharing this Sifu Terry. I had consultations over the phone with Eric since 1998 and then finally met him in person about 5 years ago when he flew in from San Diego to attend an inaugural Oneness event for the U.S. held in Wash., DC. It was a treat to experience his joy and warmth.

I will always remember last year when I emailed him from a surgical waiting room in Johns Hopkins Hospital and asked him to tell us what was wrong with our then 5 year old daughter who was there for exploratory surgery. He graciously dropped everything to tune in and immediately got back to us and described what he saw and he told us the surgeons would not be able to see the source of the problem due to the intestines being so flimsy. Shortly after that the surgical team called us in to report their findings and they were exactly as Eric had reported to us, almost verbatim! My wife and I looked at each other in astonishment as the surgeons each gave us their findings. At times I have trusted my life and that of some of my loved ones with Eric's care.

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Thank you Sifu Terry for replying to my question. Im glad that I'm not doing something wrong during seated med #1. :)

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I managed to transfer a mirrored copy of vol 4 onto my ipad. Took like 4 hours of troubelshooting and finding the right programs, but I did it.  I'l try working on it tomorrow morning.  

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On 5/24/2017 at 3:30 PM, Deltrus said:

I managed to transfer a mirrored copy of vol 4 onto my ipad. Took like 4 hours of troubelshooting and finding the right programs, but I did it.  I'l try working on it tomorrow morning.  

Go Get'em, Deltrus!

Good session Tao Tan Pai last night!

Cheers,

Sifu Terry

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