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Hello Everybody in the Flying Phoenix Qigong community and new arrivals!:

 

I just got back Tuesday from a successful FP Qigong workshop in Lenox, MA at the Eastover Estate & Retreat and I will be catching up on  responding to the past 2 weeks of postings that I haven't yet gotten to.

 

But first I want to post this announcement that the next 3-day immersive FP Qigong workshop--also at Eastover Estate in Lenox, MA-- will be on October 6, 7 & 8.   

 

The training consists of 22-24 hours of FP Qigong training covering everything in Volumes 1 through 3 of the DVD series and some of the Long Form Standing in Vol.4 plus all kinds of warm-up and conditioning exercises that I have distilled from about 100 of such exercises.  Plus plenty of question and answer time about everything Flying Phoenix.

 

For starters, here is a video clip of the group last Saturday morning doing Bending the Bows at an excellent practice speed.  One attendee, Spencer (in the red Napa Valley t-shirt) was doing BTB at a rate of one round every 5 minutes with very good form.  Just excellent!   

 

Watch this clip carefully and practice to it if you wish to improve your practice of BTB:

 

 

Also viewable at:  https://www.facebook.com/pg/Terry-Dunns-Tai-Chi-For-Health-236579434951/posts/?ref=page_internal    

(Scroll down to post stamped July 31 at 8:04 am)

 

More workshop video clips follow below for your reference in training.

 

Sifu Terry Dunn

 

www.eastover.com/terence-dunn-3.html

 

www.taichimania.com/chikung_catalog.html

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This is video of an advanced Flying Phoenix Qi Meditation being practiced last weekend at my FP Qigong workshop at Eastover Estate & Retreat in Lenox, MA.

 

This video shows the relaxed, calm, and ultra-slow speed of movement required to effect deepest absorption, mind-body integration, and tangible energization and rejuvenation--described by the oral teaching of "moving at the speed of a shifting sand dune."  Apply this speed to your basic Flying Phoenix Heavenly Healing Chi Meditation in order to effect the Heavenly Healing of the Flying Phoenix!:

 

 

 

Also viewable at:

https://www.facebook.com/pg/Terry-Dunns-Tai-Chi-For-Health-236579434951/posts/?ref=page_internal

 

Enjoy your practice at this speed of movement--but with this level of relaxation!! 

 

Sifu Terry Dunn

 

www.eastover.com/terence-dunn-2.html

 

www.taichimania.com/chikung_catalog.html

 

 

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Hello all you serious FP Practitioners:

 

This clip shows the  two movements in the middle of the Flying Phoenix Qigong meditation known as "Moonbeam Splashes on Water", which we all know was all created in 1644 by Taoist Feng Tao Teh of Ehrmei Mountain.  This video also shows the correct speed of practicing this moving meditation as per the oral teaching: "move at the speed of a shifting sand dune."

This is the speed at which the entire "Moonbeam" exercise is to be done:

 

 

 

 

So get busy!  And I hope to hear/see questions and comments posted about your breakthrough experiences of "Moonbeam" soon!

 

Sifu Terry Dunn

 

 

www.eastover.com/terence-dunn-3.html

 

www.taichimania.com/chikung_catalog.html

 

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Will the above videos be available on YouTube eventually for those of us who don't have Facebook? :blush:

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Lookout Everybody, here comes the "SLEEPER":

 

This is footage of "Monk Serves Wine" seated meditation No.4, aka "The Sleeper" (taught on Volume 7 of the DVD series),  here nicely performed by workshop student Spencer Lawrence during the Flying Phoenix Qigong Workshop this past weekend at Eastover Estate & Retreat in Lenox, MA.

 

THE NEXT EASTOVER WORKSHOP

22+ hours of sublime, transformative

Flying Phoenix Meditation is:

OCTOBER 6, 7 & 8.

www.eastover.com/terence-dunn-2.html

 

 

www.taichimania.com/chikung_catalog.html

 

https://www.facebook.com/pg/Terry-Dunns-Tai-Chi-For-Health-236579434951/posts/?ref=page_internal

(Click this link and see the 4th posting from the top of FB page, stamped July 31 at 4:30 am)

 

 

Sifu Terence Dunn

 

 

www.eastover.com/terence-dunn-2.html

www.taichimania.com/chikung_catalog.html

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10 hours ago, Earl Grey said:

Will the above videos be available on YouTube eventually for those of us who don't have Facebook? :blush:

Hi Earl Grey,

 

Yes, I will put all of the video clips on Youtube later today and then edit into the above postings, replacing the FB links.  While I'm pretty insistent on good production values of everything I put on Youtube, these clips of last week's training at the workshop are valuable guides and reminders as to the speed of movement and calm comportment that all FP practitioners should try to emulate and surpass in order to get maximum benefits from the FP SYSTEM.

 

Best,

 

Sifu Terry Dunn

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End-of-workshop photo opp. with a terrific group of highly inspired and focused students (L to R): Ruth, Dan, Spencer, Haim, Tony, Sam, Corrine, Agnes and Greg!

Over three days, they learned and memorized in mind-body 7 standing meditations and 11 seated "Monk Serves Wine" meditations of the Ehrmei Mountain Flying Phoenix Qigong system. Great job--very well done!!

NEXT WORKSHOP IS OCTOBER 6, 7 & 8

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GOOD QIGONG POSTURES -- are seen in more end-of-the-workshop photos of 
impromptu postures from "Wind Through Treetops", a moving Flying Phoenix Heavenly Healing Qi Meditation (taught on Volume 3 of the Chi Kung For Health DVD series).

 

NEXT WORKSHOP IS OCTOBER 6, 7 & 8.

          http://www.eastover.com/terence-dunn-2.html           

Fee for the workshop is only $275.

 

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As another reference, here is one more video clip from last week's 3-day immersive Flying Phoenix Qigong workshop at the Eastover Estate & Retreat in Lenox, MA:

 

This is Day Two's evening class during which I teach the sequential movements of "Moonbeam Splashes on Water" (on Volume 3 of the DVD series).  Day Three's afternoon class during which all the attendees are doing "Moonbeam" at super-slow speed with eyes closed was posted earlier above (Friday at 3:10 a.m.)

 

Show me your "Moonbeams"!
 

 

 

Sifu Terence Dunn

 

P.S. 

THE NEXT EASTOVER WORKSHOP IS

AUGUST 29 THROUGH SEPTEMBER 1.

www.eastover.com/terence-dunn-3.html

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On 7/19/2017 at 10:00 PM, Songshou said:

Hi! I'm new here, started some Flying Phoenix a few years ago but drifted away from it. At present I've re-learned all the basic standing and sitting meditations (they came back quickly), and the standing power meditations; and I'm learning the advanced sitting meds, too. The tangible FP energy started right up again as though it didn't need to get re-acquainted with me, :) The main thing now for me is just to learn to relax thoroughly and more thoroughly!....
 

Hi again!

Since I last posted, I don't believe I've missed a day of practicing FP. I've re-learned the meditations of Vol. 1 and 2, and I do the 3 MSW from Vol. 2 each day--I've started doing them in one sitting whenever possible. I'm working in more standing meditation practice, too.
Next step is to re-learn the flash meditations, and to start learning the movings meds of Vol. 3 & 4. I learn from watching a video over and over (and taking some written notes) until it sinks in; I may watch a meditation a dozen times before my body wants to try it. So I can start that process of watching/learning even while my eyes-closed meditations are from Vol. 1 & 2.
I am doing ONLY Flying Phoenix. The few BFP meds and the couple SYG meds I was doing are on hold (I can work them back in later as needed.) Aside from that I just continue my long-established mantra and contemplation practice of Kuan Yin, P'u Hsien, Wen Shu, and the Healing Brothers Yao Wang and Yao Shang.
I started sensing the blue light--by that I mean a subtle inner seeing and feeling, nothing dramatic.
On September 12 I'll be 64. I consider that a special age because of the 64 Hexagrams! :) 
Already I feel more relaxed in spirit and my body feels more calm and well. My only goal is to be saturated with the FP energy so that it can radiate from me and help others as the Spirit wills.
I think that's all for now!


Songshou 松手

 

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P.S.  Many thanks again to Sifu Terry for making FP so easily available and for putting so much time in helping students "get it"!

 

 

 

 

 

 



 

 

 

 

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On 8/6/2017 at 11:54 AM, Songshou said:

 

 

Hello Songshou,

 

Welcome to the Flying Phoenix Chi Kung thread and community.

 

Glad to hear that you've drifted back into practice of FP Qigong.  this system will always take hold in your life when its needed and when you are ready for its almost instantly integrative effects.  the starter/instigator of this thread, "Fu_doggy", described the same relationship he had with FP Qigong.  But now they are one!

Next step is to re-learn the flash meditations, and to start learning the movings meds of Vol. 3 & 4. 

This order of learning is OK,  but it's more important to learn the 3 key moving meditations of Volumes 3 and 4.  Vol.4 Long form Standing Med. being the capstone exercise of the whole system.  Still no problem with establishing the 5 Flash meditations on Vol.5 at any time.

 

 I learn from watching a video over and over (and taking some written notes) until it sinks in; I may watch a meditation a dozen times before my body wants to try it. So I can start that process of watching/learning even while my eyes-closed meditations are from Vol. 1 & 2.

Some people who are visually dominant can see a form and then emulate.  Or watch choreography over and over until it sinks in. The advantage of video is of course that you can view something ove rand over.  In the not too distant past, several of my kung fu teachers would just show us a form one time--once--and that was it.


I am doing ONLY Flying Phoenix. The few BFP meds and the couple SYG meds I was doing are on hold (I can work them back in later as needed.).  Aside from that I just continue my long-established mantra and contemplation practice of Kuan Yin, P'u Hsien, Wen Shu, and the Healing Brothers Yao Wang and Yao Shang.

 

Good to concentrate just on FP Qigong until you've gained solid proficiency in the system.  Thank you for sharing the details of your other practices.  I often use traditional mantras in Sankrit devoted to Kuan Yin.


I started sensing the blue light--by that I mean a subtle inner seeing and feeling, nothing dramatic.

The FP Blue Light will come when it comes.  Normally when you someone around you least expects it.


On September 12 I'll be 64. I consider that a special age because of the 64 Hexagrams! :) 

Happy month-before-your-64th "Before Completion" Birthday!

 

Sifu Terence Dunn

 

 

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Hi Songshou, may i ask what is the ''long-established mantra and contemplation practice of Kuan Yin'' you practice?

I ask because i used to do white tara mantra and plan to again. But i heard Kuan Yin was associated with the flying phoenix and so perhaps that is more appropriate...but then again i heard that white tara and kuan yin might be connected, im still confused about that.

When i have done the flying phoenix in the past i got an image in my mind of what looked like kuan yin, standing up radiating white light but since i dont do anything associated with her or even back then know anything about her it was strange that her image appeared in my mind.

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Hi Blue Phoenix!

In my experience, the white-robed Kuan Yin and the White Tara are two forms of the same Being (Chinese mode and Indo-Tibetan mode).  For that matter, Tibetan Buddhists often call Kuan Yin "Chinese Tara".
I don't know by any experience I've had who the "goddess" is who appeared to Feng Tao Te and gave him the FP practice. For myself, I first found FP not long after I made some significant vows to P'u Hsien, to whom Mt. Ermei is consecrated. But certainly I'm very close to Kuan Yin!
I've "downloaded" into me so many things about Kuan Yin over the last 30 years or so that's it's a challenge to say exactly what my practice is. But it includes the various aspects of her named in the esoteric tradition (i.e., her 42 saving powers, 10 hearts, 12 treasuries, 10 vows), various of her 33 manifestations. And various seed-syllables, and sacred animals, etc., associated with Kuan Yin and Tara. Also at times meditating on her 64 Changes (i.e., substituting the syllable or character "Kuan" for the solid line and "Yin" for the broken line.  Also using her longer name "Kuan Shih Yin" and substituting those characters for the solid, twice-broken, and broken lines of the 81 tetragrams.   Also since I meditate on the Tree of Life, placing most of these aspects of Kuan Yin on the Kabbalist Tree of Life as well.
So you see, I'm pretty well "marinated" in Kuan Yin, haha.  

Anyway, for me it's Tara/Kuan Yin, when Kuan Yin is experienced as Feminine.    --   Songshou
 

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Thanks for sharing these videos with us Sifu Terry. I now understand what "move at the speed of a shifting sand dune" truly means. Doing one round of BTB in 5min = 90min for 18 rounds! Now thats some deep absorption! :D

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8 hours ago, zen-bear said:

....Good to concentrate just on FP Qigong until you've gained solid proficiency in the system.  Thank you for sharing the details of your other practices.  I often use traditional mantras in Sankrit devoted to Kuan Yin....

Happy month-before-your-64th "Before Completion" Birthday!

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Thank you for your advice and good wishes, Sifu Dunn!

I'm aware of the Sanskrit mantras, probably. Certainly the Mani mantra. And then many devotees give the reconstructed Sanskrit of the Dharani of Great Compassion. I gravitated many years ago to the Padmasattva Dharani (same wording as the Vajrasattva Dharani so popular in Tibetan ritual but substitutes "padmasattva" and "padma" for vajrasattva and vajra.)  I remember years ago while living in Cambridge, MA and then in Denver, CO, I used to recite it over and over while waiting for the bus after work!

Back to Flying Phoenix practice, though. I've begun the process of learning Volume 3. And when the Labor Day weekend gets here, I'll have 5 days off total and plan to do my own "retreat' with those and other FP meditations.
I tend to keep track of repetitions with mantra syllables. I might use, for example, OM MA NI PAD ME HUM HRIH for the 7 Monk Serves Wine reps.  Or CHIU K'U CHIU NAN P'U SA LAI, one of the Chinese Kuan Yin formulas. Or NA MO TA PEI KUAN SHIH YIN (which precedes each of her 10 vows in the Dharani Sutra). It's just how I am able to keep concentrated and consecrated, instead of counting 1, 2, etc.
Anyway, I'll give you a progress report by and by! And thanks again.    Songshou  鬆手

 

 

 

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17 hours ago, BluePhoenix133 said:

When i have done the flying phoenix in the past i got an image in my mind of what looked like kuan yin, standing up radiating white light but since i dont do anything associated with her or even back then know anything about her it was strange that her image appeared in my mind.

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Yesterday I was contemplating all this, and that aspect of Kuan Yin called "Liu Li Kuan Yin" (Lapis-lazuli Kuan Yin; "Vaidurya" in Sanskrit) came strongly to mind. It is, in the traditional list of 33,
 

#23.  Liu Li Guan Yin lapis lazuli Kuan Yin - lapis is the color of healing and long life, signifying the Healing Buddhas and Bodhisattvas.

Lapis, of course, is deep-blue, sometimes with gold in it.

Just a nice thought! :) 

 

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On 8/10/2017 at 11:41 AM, Songshou said:

 

Hello Songshou,

 

You are not the first to have visions of Buddhist iconography while practicing Flying Phoenix Qigong even though you don't or didn't know anything about Kuan Yin and was not at the time actively involved in anything having to do with Kuan Yin.  I recall that during the early months of the first year of this thread, two other subscribers posted accounts of the same thing.  One said something akin to:   "...strange, because I have no interest in Buddhism."

 

Once in a while, I will visualize, visit, and commune with Buddhist, Taoist, and "other" deities during FP meditation, as it is so very conducive to channeling.  My last significant channeling was last November, at the suggestion of my Tao Tan Pai classmate, and that was of George Washington, who I saw right up there with the Taoist pantheon.  Prior to that was one significant visitation about two years ago by my late senior school brother (Da Sihing) and the most influential teacher I had in Taoist Elixir Method Kung Fu, Nei Kung and healing methods, who taught me from the other side how to reach my karmic enemies anywhere on this earthplane with a very simple gesture made during his signature kung fu form.  But I have not had Buddhist entities "visit" me directly (on their own accord) or have Buddhist iconography appear to me in meditation for a very long time.

 

I had a different experience of the blue light cultivated by the FP Qigong system early today.  During my practice this morning (consisting of a 22-movement seated "Monk Serves Wine" Long Form (unpublished), then another unpublished 7-round MSW meditation with breathing 70 50 40 30 20 10, and then the Advanced MSW meditation on Volume 7 with breathing (80 70 50 30), then Wind Above the Clouds, Wind Through Treetops (2x), and the Vol.4 Long Form Standing meditation), I was sitting outdoors on the grass under a bright sun and the blue light started to fill my vision starting with the third repetition of that (80 70 50 30) seated meditations' choreography--from the bottom upward.  It was interesting because the sun was shining on my eyelids what my eyes saw was a dark red-brown color.  When the flourescent sky blue Flying PHoenix color manifested, it at first "clashed with the outer sunlight coming through my eyelids.  It seemed as though the flourescent sky blue immediately turned into a dark teal and floated  halfway up my "field of vision" with my eyes closed.  But then on the next round of the meditation, the blue/dark teal filled my entire field of vision and I saw all blue with a bright reddish brown behind it.

 

In all past meditation sessions when the blue light was "seen" internally, I was indoors without bright sunlight shining on my eyelids.  And the blue light was seen as a very bright fluorescent sky blue--just like the display on a dashboard of a particular brand of european sports cars, as I had described in Year One of this thread.

 

Good practicing to everyone.

 

Sifu Terence Dunn

 

 

P.S.  Please remember:  my next 22-hour  immersive workshop in  Flying Phoenix Qigong at Eastover Estate in Lenox, Mass. begins the evening of August 29:

 

http://www.eastover.com/terence-dunn-2.html

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Thank you Sifu Terry.

 

It is quite interesting how people see Kuan Yin (Avalokitesvara/Chenrizig) when FP seems to come from Samanthabhadra, the deity of Emei mountain. Is Avalokitesvara the main energy of FP then?
 

I haven't had much of visions of blue light yet, but maybe it's because I tend to somehow accidentally 'shut off' my eye sense, if that makes any sense. When I had an out-of-body experience a year back, I was also 'blind' but fully aware of everything around me in the sense that I could hear celestial music or 'know' that I was somewhere - that makes me wonder if my third-eye is restricted or something. I saw myself flip out of my body, but then it just went all 'blind' after that - or blackness. But for FP, I'm definitely feeling the huge bliss, almost as if I'm bathing in an internal fountain of ecstasy, really feels like I'm having a wonderful bath and soaking in the blissfulness.

 

Doing the FP exercises, I tend to get these jerks in my spine, as if I'm straightening up. I tried Volume Four Long Form again and I was a little confused - just to clarify - is the sequence 90 60 5 50 40 (as in the DVD) or 90 60 5 40 30 (as I saw somewhere on this thread)?

 

I tried to imagine myself relaxing so much that I moved as slow as possible, managed to get my Bending the Bows down to near 5 minutes, and one round of Volume 4 took about 20 minutes. One thing amazing about it was that I felt as if chi was penetrating much more when I moved very slowly. This also happened for the sitting meditations and I tried using the 'om ma ni pad me hum hrih' and it really helped with keep tracking of the number of reps I did.

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25 minutes ago, taoguy said:

Hi Taoguy,

The "Om Ma Ni Pad Me Hum Hrih" (or another 7-syllable mantra) method was just my own suggestion rather than Sifu Terry's. It helps me a lot, and you just mentioned it helped you, too! :) 
Samantabhadra (or Puxian in Chinese) sometimes is visualized as feminine in Chinese Buddhism, but I don't think anywhere near as often as Avalokiteshvara is experienced as the feminine Kuan Yin. As of yet I haven't had a personal experience to show me who the Goddess or Bodhisattva is who revealed Flying Phoenix--maybe in time!    Songshou
 

 

 

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3 hours ago, taoguy said:

. I tried Volume Four Long Form again and I was a little confused - just to clarify - is the sequence 90 60 5 50 40 (as in the DVD) or 90 60 5 40 30 (as I saw somewhere on this thread)?

 

This is something I've been meaning to ask for a long time as well. I think it was asked previously on the thread but wasn't answered afaik.

 

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It is 90 60 5 50 40 as on the DVD. 

 

If you saw it as 90 60 5 50 30 on this thread, it is a typing error of whoever posted.

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Ok, I'd rather sifu replied though as it was he that wrote the formula as 90 60 5 40 30 on page 6 of this thread and page 127.

 

On page 127 sifu confirms it as 90 60 5 50 40 as per the DVD and then corrects himself the following post as it being 90 60 5 40 30. It would be nice to clarify it as it's been bothering me for a while.

 

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There are other practitioners here like Tao Stillness and Cihan who have been practicing a while and answer in place of Sifu Terry for other students, as Sifu Terry is often busy and confirms while also remaining patient for many of the same questions being asked and answered multiple times before throughout these 175 pages. :) 

 

I'm sure he'll be happy to tell you the breath control is that on the DVD and there have been typos before both by other students, Sifu Terry, and have all been corrected later on. Happy you're enjoying the long form. It's a personal favorite of mine. :) 

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Yep, it's 90 60 5 50 40, Zen-Bear confirmed it anywhere already ;-) 

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Hi!

I think I made good progress this weekend.  I have just 3 more (advanced) seated meditations to learn (I should know those by my birthday on Sept. 12) ; and I reviewed and now have down all the basic standing positions.
I'll practice everything I know each day this coming week, while I watch the 2 intermediate standing meditations and get prepared to learn them and add them to my practice.  Then in several weeks, on to the long form meditation!   :)

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