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  1. Full Lotus is a state of being.

    4 hours nonstop full lotus every night to recharge the energy. Is this also part of what you were taught - that it is "to recharge the energy"? Specifically - is this what Chunyi Lin conveyed?
  2. I used to go out with the daughter of a woman that handles Amma's trips to the USA. And I met Amma. She has a long and very clean record - with many seemingly endless hours of hugs. I do not profess to be a follower but I have not heard of anything like what was in the video - it could be true - but it could also be false - My meeting with Amma was a very considerable meeting - yet I knew nothing of her or her teaching - I simply went along to an event once and was introduced to some of the "back end support people" and then joined the big group and got a hug - it was an eventful hug. This was in the early 90"s I have seen people be "regressed" and come up with all sorts of absurd ideas as well as channeling that went sideways - and students that suddenly came up with stuff about a teacher that was crazy as well as incorrect and demented. That is not to say regression is bad or good or channeling either - simply that if you have a person over decades with a very clean record and then someone says something that seems "very off" - it may be that something is not right about the accusation.
  3. Full Lotus is a state of being.

    "Chunyi Lin qigong master said 20 minutes of full lotus = 4 hours of any other type of meditation." Humorous
  4. internal anger

    It is a mistake to look at "Anger" as a thing that we can disregard or avoid like gum on the sidewalk (or embrace) - it is not outside of our inner makeup. And our inner makeup - the Karma's we are IN - the grasping that we hold ourselves in - this is something we can view in our daily lives. We have in a sense two parts of our life - one that is comprised of thousands of lives all waiting to jump out of the bottle at any given moment - our Monkey Lives - the person that is comprised of all the "I's" we are know by - and the Self, the untarnished unborn and spotless Beingness that is Divine Essence - Light. In the seeing of the monkey - no judgement is cast - the Light simply alights on what the monkey's can and might hear - the "monkey's" being those "I"s in the bottle - and the bottle is who people identify as "Me". It comes to the comprised bottle of monkey's we call Me intuitively that "something is happening here" that it may wish to attend to. Some in the monkey mass may attend to it as a group of the diverse "I"s coalesce around it and begin to make an effort to fix or thwart or increase or decrease the "something [that] is happening here". This is the ongoing unfolding floating generally robotic burping we call Me - we are essentially group protests and "think" tanks mostly bounced around on an inner pin ball table of instinctive reactions and inclinations with added fluctuations in the regurgitations and digestion of various food and drink and with respect to the agitations of the planets and the time of the day and heat and humidity and sound touch smell ..... The extremes of our inner protests may lead to theocracies and perfect perfection pictures that tend to lead to suicides or murder. The extremes may also take the Apple Polisher approach in which "one" proceeds calmly and perfectly in trying to make no waves and following all properly posted carrots and using disinfectants regularly. The extremes of our inner protests can also lead to the general denial of intuition or a walling off of the composite bottle of "I"s to "whim" and in general inner or outer whisperings of the heart. These are example of somewhat consolidated approaches by a group of "I"s trying to organize the general mass of "I"s to slow down what is essentially the observation that huge amounts of energy are being dissipated by a vast number of discordant "I"s pacing about on their own time and at any moment speaking for the whole. In the general makeup of the vast mass of "I"s comprising what a human takes themselves to be - there are some established groups of Me-ness in that mass of "I"s that Speak Loudly. Some are connected directly to the nervous system and say or yell "ouch!!!!" when things hurt the body. Some groups make it very well know they are hungry or that it is too hot or too humid or some general grunt that they feel is of the utmost immediacy. And without pointing out all of the unionized groups and tangential groups we have the "I"s that get angry - and they have their reasons for getting angry - in some cases it is literally their birthright according to them and their lore. At some point some of the "I"s may group up and look at how to approach the "problem" of the discordant masses and the dissipation of resources. This group of "I"s is still the Monkey - they are swaying about on a life raft easily disbanded by a wave or a puncture. Some take to fishing, others believe it is all hopeless, some try and get everybody to pray or sing or play cards in order to get by and wait it out - others try to sew together sails and some start to look at others as food. Nothing is tidy about ones lives as a human - each time one is identified in a particular "I" one is in that life - in a day one can "lead" many lives - to clarify this: Remember a time when at night you set your alarm - the "I" setting it decided to set it at 5am because all things considered 5am was the best time to get up and start the day. The next morning the "I" that woke up to that alarm immediately pressed the snooze feature thinking that 10 minutes would be more appropriate. 10 minutes later another "I" decides that 7am would be better and resets the alarm and goes back to sleep. At 7am another group of "I"s wakes up an realizes that there is no time to waste but that is then interceded by another group of "I"s that decide it is already too late and being this late would create all sorts of explanations for being late so they conceive of a plan to call in sick and this then leads to another group of "I"s that are best at lying and acting and then the phone call or email is made and then general group decides that sleep is still a resounding favorite and off they go. Back to the life raft - At some point someone on the life raft may start to go nuts - they begin by taking about sinking the boat and being done with it - then they start trying to stab the boat and flail about with a knife. The crew on board need to make a decision - the immediate response is to secure the person possibly by a sudden blow - this is not a thought out response and it is not IN Anger - the "I" that has gone nuts is an immediate threat to all of the "I"s existence. If the crew member is killed by the action it is not taken as something needing punishment but rather only sadness and on some level relief from the dead persons threat because of its loss of self control. This is a daily occurrence in the life of a human - not always intense or so fateful but big as well as petty whims and inclinations come and go constantly. We go into a thanksgiving dinner knowing we will be with people who agitate us and some group of "I"s say - "don't talk politics with this person and don't drink too much". We get there and someone shows off a prized collection of fine wine and another sticks a current political debate in our face and off we are to a whole new set of "I"s that result in any number of fiascos and or fuming deliberations and resolutions on what to do differently next year. We think again and again that we are one "I" - and that we are in control - we want to think that Anger is an option like a glass of water. It generally takes decades to realize that walling off and controlling things is a fantasy as an approach to real change - walling off and controlling is a slow death and typically an already robotized and largely burped along life goes from one of sleep to the walking dead - one that is nearly entirely patterned and rigidized in beliefs, commitments to our mind loops and politics and DNA proclivities - and the God of our perceived abilities to conceptualize which by then is so myopic as to allow for nearly no other view than ones own nose and everything is framed from filter upon filter based in our fears and angers and habituations which now act as our comfort foods and sleeping pills. We may find Practice - it may find Us - it smooths the energies and clumps of "I"s that clog the Light - consistently ebbing away residual Karmic resonances that we tried on and have moved from but that still hold us in some areas. Practice moves us through Karmic resonances that we are just entering into and through those that we are fully grasped in. Practice is not a calisthenic - it is the trinity of our humanness in Presence and the unwavering resonance of Presence dismembering darkness.
  5. internal anger

    In part my answer reflects what Dwai state above - it is a low frequency and an identified frequency - it is a past time reflection of who you are not in the present moment. A reflection of rigidized patterns within. I do not "use anger" but I am sometimes lost in it for a short time. Anger is essentially losing oneself. It is possible to be "at red" instantaneously - and it may appear to be anger but if one could see, it does not have to throw energy at a perceived threat and it does not have to displace centeredness. In this case it is not anger but a cleansing so to speak of lower vibration (often coming from within as a residual of patterned reactiveness). It is a high degree of neutrality and it is attained again as Dwai stated above: "At a certain point, one can get to a point where these negative energies cannot even penetrate your field. For that one has to become 'solid' in terms of their energy field. The best defense from low frequency emotions like anger, hatred, jealousy etc are to raise your own energetic frequency and develop a massive energetic field and mental range. " It is an interesting concept that is nearly always entirely misunderstood - it is understood in Perfect Perfection Concepts - but this is unnecessary and constraining in a most unproductive way: Imagine you are a big huge super friendly and very physically strong dog - pretty much no dog will bother your equilibrium - your state of happy mellow at ease-ness. Becoming neutral - being in self - oneness - approaching these things - one eases off reactionary patterns and they are broken and fall away in practice. This in and off itself slowly removes the dissipation of energies from the increasingly discarded patterns of reaction - it takes perseverence in dropping likes and dislikes that are identifications with otherness - me-ness. As the monkey grasps about less and less the higher expanded energies become available - simply in part because they now exist because they have not been dissipated and have had time to transform into higher energies and energies from which the gross physical, gross subtle and subtle bodies can grow beyond the base energies that abound. Increasingly - from simple perseverance in the basics of practice in embodiment, transformation makes buoyant ones spirit and light within the relative and non-dual alike. The energies become simply beyond words and ones reality is not IN conflict - in a sense - a very real sense - one becomes invisible to a great many energies and encounters.
  6. internal anger

    Anger creates habituation to anger - it plows deep furrows within ones physical, gross subtle and subtle bodies. It supports identifications, mind loops and increased fight or flight modes. It is among the most difficult complex rigidized patternings to relinquish - it can take decades to truly move beyond in the most ardent pursuit of freedom from it once it has been truly been accommodated for by what would be best termed as incorrect thinking - unskillful means. This is completely different than a truly instinctive action related to actual threat and attack - not of words - though words may indicate a need for decisive action and a clear and present real danger. Unfortunately prior indulgence in reactionary anger will often destroy or deeply incapacitated ones ability to deal with dangerous or likely harmful situations by reading into them and exacerbating them rather than being capable of rational and or clear headed spontaneous reactions. Spontaneous reactions often immediately veer to identifications and rigidized patterns deep within and have disproportionate energetic explosiveness. This has nothing what so ever to do with the advocation of dullness and fence sitting - one can have the fullest of passion and articulation and the full range of voice to ones thoughts and emotions - but regular indulgence and admiration for rage and anger will create passageways for extreme explosion like major canals and dams and walls that have been built to override, wall off and overprotect identifications with ones positions and proclivities. In a fight - a real fight - anger is of no use - and there is no time for it - no indulgence in it. It is entirely wasteful and an interference in the spontaneity of the moment. However it can certainly look useful and can make entirely inhumane and barbaric action appear perfectly sane - and in certain totally insane times anger can make a slaughter seem like the thing to do. Contemplating its utility is often already an indication that your back story likes the idea of it being useful and is probably already a significant part of ones identifications, positions and "birthright". It is often associated with Decisiveness and this is not an unreasonable association. Decisiveness very often requires bringing a sort of redness of energies to conflicting ideas - inclinations - others input and general inertias. A clarifying ending energy to cease engagement in the babble and talk - this redness of energy is a clearing energy that looks like anger but it does not have to be anger - it can simply be a heating of energies - a clearing energy - and it often appears visibly as Red though it may also be a higher lavender or electric blue - and many other options and varieties. In the simplest sense Anger is imbalance - identification.
  7. MCO doesnt work

    The advice to meditate with the eyes slightly open and the attention on the tip of ones nose is not to be taken as the best way or even an advised way - it is a way - and in many cases not the best advice and it is quite vague as proposed above. (I do not mean this in any way as an affront to the practice). Most meditation is too far forward in the head resulting in both poor meditation and strain. From the center of the head one will Be in meditation more easily. For many the eyes opened slightly is a good thing as it helps them not to wander - but for many the opposite is true - they may not space out but the monkey mind does not disappear. Meditation is Being In Self - once one is past the figeting and strain one moves to Self - the more "perfect pictures" there are to the "perfect way" to meditate the longer it takes to do away with the nit picking and find the growing stillness in light. Far to many are forward in the head and concentrating on the brow chakra - and in some cases the forehead chakra - in either case - these are localized meditations (sitting practices) - eventually one will meditate from the center of the head (or simply Be in meditation - with self - any "where" any "time") Also - with regard to the MCO - it is far more difficult to open in a sitting position on the floor - the leg channels simply do not have the same amount of energies moving in them while sitting. In a chair or standing is far more accomodating to this end. This then effects quite a number of other channels particularly the major side channels which are rarely given more than a passive glance - (as few have developed them and cannot recognize the utility of them). Regular practice opens them with no effort - but the leg channels must open considerably for the side channels to grow and this also requires the feet to open up. (it helps to massage the feet prior to practice - if you do not and your feet start to really really hurt during practice - at least you will know your feet are trying to open. Prior massage will help to remove the mounting pain problem - in most cases it will entirely comfort the process). For some the MCO will be a subtle movement - I was not taught anything about the MCO other than that it went up the Ren and down the Du - I visually traced it once (one time). I did not try to develop it or move it - the practice does that - I was not taught that it was important - and it was never particularly apparent until an absolutely huge opening of it quite unexpected and incredible, Prior to its opening - where it was clearly open - I had a sustained feeling of floating everywhere for a long time prior to the big opening - as though my feet were not on the ground or that I was walking on energy cushions - this persists, (This is not to be associated with a spacey feeling - quite the opposite - very grounded and in embodiment) My master was aware of my progress and this was in fact part of the awakening of the MCO. But he speaks no English and I have read nothing about Qi Gong - everything has been personal experience and then finding out what it means. Its has been quite a journey in Qi Gong - I teach it but many of my students know more than me regarding conceptual understanding and terms - in many cases they are walls they have to overcome.
  8. MCO doesnt work

    In the great opening of the MCO the energies run up the back and down the front. It is not subtle and does not require any effort or visualization - at least with respect to regular Qi Gong practice.
  9. MCO doesnt work

    This is not something cultivated with just a few 8 hour sessions. It is not something that is not related to the whole - the heart of the energy systems you have developed - the gross physical, gross subtle and subtle bodies. If you know basically nothing about these channels other than direct experience and observation they will unfold in general in practice as follows: Energies will appear to move up the front generally though not necessarily appear as moving down the back as clearly for quite some time to most of those who see/feel such things. In most people the front central area channels are the only ones fairly well defined. The inner side channels are generally very faint. Most of the inner head channels are not formed to a visible level. Energy centers are in general not particularly pronounce wthin the body with the exception of the major and minor regular centers of a particular person. (Most people functioned more or less in only one primary center and one supporting alternate center - chakra). The back channels consist of at least five channels - main channels and supporting side channels. Some front "channels" are more channels that are reflections of connections from the back channels forward and some are flows from circular motions of energy centers in the flower of their structures. The side channels have difficulty growing to a great extent without the supporting leg channels - these are mid placed side channels approximately in line with the nipples at their widest mid chest locations. The channels associated with the MCO are practically dormant if compared to a full opening and then the latter fusing of many of the channels into one. At the time that the MCO opens full it will become very large to approximately an 8-12" oval of massive energy all along its path and fully comparable to a full Kundalini onslaught but maintained for days or weeks and then subsiding to a degree.. This may be followed by a vast increase in the energy intensity while at the same time the size of the channel actually becomes infinitesimal smaller and intensely compressed by comparison - some 3/4 of an inch in diameter. The main center pole - extending from the perineum to the top of the head and slightly back of center will generally require considerable inner practice to become noticeable and may become relatively prominent wth martial artists given attention to the hara/abdomen/lower dan tien area. It will not become extraordinary until considerable changes have taken place well above the head and well below the waist and then also the fusing of various inner head and center of head and throat and on down takes place. Most that is known of the MCO is relatively mundane and this is far more true of the inner pole described above - assumption with regard to these descriptions will be necessarily extremely far from reality - they are inconceivable to mind and far beyond any psychedelic experiences and they are completely sustained (as in permanent). The MCO will dissapear in fusion with all major channels - the pole will become prominent on a much higher level and will remain as a clearly felt channel - but more of central embodiment - the axis of embodiment. For most this all takes years of practice - for some of us slower folks it takes endless decades - but all along it is unfolding. The key has never been short intensives here and there - it is sustained practice and living the life of practice - the basic practices are the big things - the secret stuff will come from the big basics in practice. (there is no secret stuff - just stuff that cannot be heard until it is known) carry salt measure your head frequently persevere
  10. Energy rich guy seeking advice on choosing a method

    Seek some comprehensive advice from the teacher you mentioned - explain in detail what you have experienced but make sure to include what practices you have engaged in while "meditating". How you breath, where your awareness is centered. Many engaged in "meditation" are not meditating - they are actively engaged in "a sitting practice" - doing. Breath always into your lower dan tien - this will help to mediate the energies and overloads. Fasting would be recommended and stopping all active Doing practice until you receive clear guidance. Yoga Asana's would be helpful to relax the energies into and throughout all the nadis. Currently it would be wise to be less active and more exercising the passive until you speak to the teacher you mentioned. Caution is needed - (not fear) - in that you are experiencing kundalini symptoms and your bodies are trying to catch up to the energies that have built up quickly. This is something to take seriously - we have had several members that have participated in these forums from psychiatric facilities who experienced many of the things you have mentioned prior to becoming members of those facilities. The long form asanas will be helpful. Qi Gong only if your instructor fully knows your entire present situation and what habits you may have that would be decisively ill advised. Breathing habits and practices are among the most serious threats to energy deviations.
  11. What appears to be the long path is generally the shortest and most sure. Much discussion would have you believe that 10 or 20 years is a long time - it is not - and it is not as though great and miraculous transformations are not happening all along the path. Nor does it always require a great deal of time - much can take place in just a few years - or months. Upon Awakening a foundation in the "bottom up approach" - an organic self revealing no-effort approach affords incredible strength in the simple habits that have been formed and the roots that are fully established in the gross physical and gross subtle bodies and in the subtle bodies. Even a few years in foundational practice will be of tremendous benefit if you move to top down practices - you will be far more grounded in fundamental practice and weather the winds in the head and heart far better. It is extremely easy to fallter even in the most exquisite of ways from the top down approach - and it is easy to become as the rabbit - very impressed with oneself and the many siddhis but unable to move beyond their mesmerizing effects while absolutely certain one is under no spell at all. One can reach very high degrees of being stuck and few will see the difference. If you own the mountain the head and heart will have no fear - refuge is never an issue. In the more heady teachings and heart teachings answers and assistance from the outside is more often sought and anxiousness and doubt abound. Heavy reliance on words and concepts create a vagueness and self reproach or dogmatic repetition of thinking. The bottom up approach encompasses the whole - nowhere does it not include the head and the heart and the bodies both subtle and gross The domino effect is only partially true - the idea that "a full head or heart opening" - 'enlightenment" will take care of the rest - this is false thinking however true it may happen. Much continues and much may not continue - it very much depends on the foundation of practice. Enlightenment is not a finished state.
  12. Q's...ONLY Teachers may Answer.

    Some suggestions/considerations: Generally static holds take time to work up to because among other things such as the muscles getting acclimated - certain channels need to open up in order to support the holds and it may be that you have jumped ahead of your channels capacities. Start with increments that push the limits just a bit and allow time for them to become relatively easy and then move up a few minutes to another level. It can also be that you are not breathing deeply enough and or that you are supporting your "efforts" with too much effort and the adrenals are coming in to play. Most students do not breath deeply enough and as frequently as would be most beneficial. It can also be exacerbated by timing - how soon after a meal as an example. Also obviously diet in general. The posture is obviously a concern but if we go past that and assume your posture is good, breathing OK and overall stance is correct - then where you hold your awareness is often also a simple factor and can easily effect several factors mentioned above. Are you breathing into your lower dan tien (LDT)? Breathing and Awareness in this center is particularly helpful to general pain - blocked energies - overloads - and stress/strain. It is where the Mountain is owned - it is the root - the base - the foundation - all the limbs have their core strength in this. It is a place of neutrality and power and compassion. If you find that awareness is somewhat difficult to simply have in the LDT - do not worry - but try to have it in the central axis. This axis is seen in the gross physical from the perineum to just slightly back of the top of the head - awareness anywhere along this axis is in touch with the root. I am not referring to the central back channel. Feel your breath as you are in your stance - feel it come in the nostrils - cool the bottom of the eyes balls - circulate near the ears - and pass down into the LDT. Be in the center of your head or in the central core of your middle dan tien - anywhere along the central axis - and find yourself dwelling more and more in the lower dan tien as you are in your stance. Do not pass judgement upon yourself if you float up or down on this axis - simply find yourself there and move down when it occurs to you - if this is difficult it does not matter - awareness in the central axis is a far greater asset. Hand and foot massage prior to practice is extremely helpful - foot is very helpful and hand is generally completely overlooked. Energies that must move out of the hands may be held there and have repercussions elsewhere. Energies that are required in the side channels and elsewhere will require the feet to open up. Twist the toes and the fingers from side to side and press the tips where small chakrams can often use a boost to open them up. Bend all the fingers back and open up the wrists. In general the pain does go away - it will be replaced by a warm effortless sensation. Perhaps this will be of some help
  13. Turning Difficulties into Practice

    It can often be difficult to lay aside striving and give to ones self - to give the body ease - fun or a walk or sail. To lay aside the noise of mind loops and position - and breath. To not be right To just let go To not talk Becoming accustom to a free fall floating without grasping for a twig - breathing into and abiding in it. A never ending presence in Now - it seems it must be a life of service in happening
  14. Proposed simplification of forums

    Sometimes the specificity of groups has made it difficult to figure out where to post - I am mostly "Way" oriented and not to a specific lineage. Foolishly perhaps but at this point (in contrast to decades ago) I see little differnce in the greater traditions of the East - and I mean that in the best of ways. Obviously in what I consider the small things there is a great deal of difference - but anyway - I wanted to put this in to convey what I feel when trying to figure out where to post a new topic (which I don't do all that much). There is no question that regarding the specifics of lineages in the details - I know next to nothing - so I defer to those above - specifically dwai and Michael Sternbach - their guidance may be far more exercised than mine.
  15. Proposed simplification of forums

    Good god Zork - what the fuck is this? Don’t be a dork - read what was written - I never came close to the words you put in my mouth. Wow - what a shallow read.