Unpopular Opinions

[Daniel]

4 hours ago, Bindi said:

Yin is exactly as important as Yang. Shakti is exactly as important as Shiva. 
 

These polarities are our inner realities. Bringing them together is our only task. 

 

Can they be divided?  Or maybe only denied?

[Bindi]

3 hours ago, Daniel said:

 

Can they be divided?  Or maybe only denied?

In my unpopular opinion they are divided and this is the human problem that we’re all trying to solve. 

[Cobie]

[off topic (not an unpopular opinion)]

@Bindi  I like your new profile picture. To me it speaks about the same issue as in your above post. 

 

Edited August 1, 2023 by Cobie

[liminal_luke]

19 hours ago, Apech said:

Dzogchen is for beginners.

 

 

Beginners love Dzogchen because there's nothing more fun than to start at the end.

 

 

[Shadow_self]

9 hours ago, kakapo said:

 

We have a holographic projector from Zeta-2 Reticuli, and BD-NRG-23 talks about this among other topics. Speaking of which you know anywhere we can pick up some Moscovium pellets for the fuel cell?

 

Ask the the friend of Bob lazar...

 

I think he's mexican,  so you'll need a translator too by the way

 

Better make sure he's telling you the truth as well, lest you all either waste you time (likely) or hurt yourselves (perhaps likely)

 

Report all results back here so we too can take your third hand testimony

[Apech]

9 hours ago, Michael Sternbach said:

 

Could you summarize that please?

 

Yes.  A beginner is someone at the start or opening of something.  Such as the start of a race perhaps, on your marks, get set, go.  As a sequence. Or someone who is first learning something like a set of procedures such as the rules of Chess - move a pawn two squares forward and so on (or perhaps advance a knight which can jump over other pieces.)  A person who is learning this kind of thing would be called a beginner.  Because they are at the beginning or start or opening.

 

Dzogchen often translated as  the Great perfection comprises teachings of the Nyingmapa (Red Hat) sect of Tibetan Buddhism or Lamaism as it is sometimes known.  Also the Bon Po teach a similar system with the same name.  These are said to be the ultimate teachings and are distinct to the other yanas or ways.

 

 

[Daniel]

7 hours ago, Bindi said:

In my unpopular opinion they are divided and this is the human problem that we’re all trying to solve. 

 

What is dividing them?  And I would very much appreciate a hint towards a solution?  In your opinion, of course?

 

Edited August 1, 2023 by Daniel

[silent thunder]

If you don't read the news, you're uninformed.  If you read the news, you're misinformed.  ~Mark Twain

[silent thunder]

Absolute certainty is the realm of the arrogant ignorant... and of that, I'm absolutely certain.

 

<oh wait... d'oh!>

[Mark Foote]

8 hours ago, Bindi said:

 

 

The right crus is stronger, broader and longer than the left, and originates from the anterolateal surface of the first three lumbar vertebral bodies and intervertebral discs (IVDs). The left crus arises from similar surfaces of the upper two lumbar vertebrae and the intervening IVD. 

 

 

Just an unpopular opinion, of course.

[Mark Foote]

On 7/29/2023 at 3:27 PM, Nungali said:

 

You would be playing an accordion to accompany me  .... form a three person, in costume,  fake Andean  busking group  with pan pipes  ...   do  an imitation of Le Petomane   ?  
 

 

[Mark Foote]

On 7/29/2023 at 5:04 PM, Michael Sternbach said:

Teachers will only take you so far. Each teacher has their personal view of the system they represent. Make sure you develop your own, and be free to mix and match. Your ultimate teacher resides inside of you.
 

That's gotta be the most unpopular opinion on this thread, no one responded to it (not even me!).

[Mark Foote]

On 7/30/2023 at 10:34 AM, Daniel said:

 

Unpopular opinion:

 

To be enlightened is a burden.

 

 

Gautama taught three principal cessations:  the cessation of ("determinate thought" in) speech, deed, and thought.

And now the unpopular opinion:  what folks regard as an "enlightened" teacher in the world today, is a person who has acquired the ability to relinquish volition in the activity of inhalation and exhalation as a part of a rhythm of mindfulness in daily living.  

That was Gautama's way of living, before and after his enlightenment, but the cessation of volition in inhalation and exhalation (cessation in action of the body) is different from the cessation of volition in feeling and perceiving (action of the mind).  The latter attainment is the attainment associated with Gautama's insight into dependent causation (his enlightenment).

To say that enlightenment is a burden is to call the spirit of Brahma Sahampati down upon oneself (he's the one who persuaded Gautama to teach, in spite of knowing what a pain in the ass that would be).  It's not so much that the opinion is unpopular, as it is that Brahma Sahampati has incredible bad breath, having been dead for so long...

 

Edited August 1, 2023 by Mark Foote

[old3bob]

Jesus is alive, (but things in the world are not well...)

[liminal_luke]

....

Edited August 1, 2023 by liminal_luke

[Daniel]

31 minutes ago, Mark Foote said:

 

Gautama taught three principal cessations:  the cessation of ("determinate thought" in) speech, deed, and thought.

And now the unpopular opinion:  what folks regard as an "enlightened" teacher in the world today, is a person who has acquired the ability to relinquish volition in the activity of inhalation and exhalation as a part of a rhythm of mindfulness in daily living.  

That was Gautama's way of living, before and after his enlightenment, but the cessation of volition in inhalation and exhalation (cessation in action of the body) is different from the cessation of volition in feeling and perceiving (action of the mind).  The latter attainment is the attainment associated with Gautama's insight into dependent causation (his enlightenment).

To say that enlightenment is a burden is to call the spirit of Brahma Sahampati down upon oneself (he's the one who persuaded Gautama to teach, in spite of knowing what a pain in the ass that would be).  It's not so much that the opinion is unpopular, as it is that Brahma Sahampati has incredible bad breath, having been dead for so long...

 

 

Thank you.  Sincerely,

[Daniel]

 

Unpopular opinion:  "Nothing is sacred"  ( double-meaning-intended / they're both true and unpopular )

 

Long live the King! 

 

 

Edited August 1, 2023 by Daniel

[old3bob]

3 hours ago, Mark Foote said:

 

Gautama taught three principal cessations:  the cessation of ("determinate thought" in) speech, deed, and thought.

And now the unpopular opinion:  what folks regard as an "enlightened" teacher in the world today, is a person who has acquired the ability to relinquish volition in the activity of inhalation and exhalation as a part of a rhythm of mindfulness in daily living.  

That was Gautama's way of living, before and after his enlightenment, but the cessation of volition in inhalation and exhalation (cessation in action of the body) is different from the cessation of volition in feeling and perceiving (action of the mind).  The latter attainment is the attainment associated with Gautama's insight into dependent causation (his enlightenment).

To say that enlightenment is a burden is to call the spirit of Brahma Sahampati down upon oneself (he's the one who persuaded Gautama to teach, in spite of knowing what a pain in the ass that would be).  It's not so much that the opinion is unpopular, as it is that Brahma Sahampati has incredible bad breath, having been dead for so long...
 

 

ok, but did the historic Buddha have to give up the fun of swimming underwater? 

(via, "relinquish volition in the activity of inhalation and exhalation")

 

Edited August 1, 2023 by old3bob

[old3bob]

2 hours ago, Daniel said:

 

Unpopular opinion:  "Nothing is sacred"  ( double-meaning-intended / they're both true and unpopular )

Long live the King! 

 

 

 

nope, he wore something else 

[silent thunder]

Elvis and Clint Eastwood were ridiculously over-hyped.

[old3bob]

26 minutes ago, silent thunder said:

Elvis and Clint Eastwood were ridiculously over-hyped.

 

yea, although some of Eastwood's more recent movies, directing or acting or both were not bad imo..

Edited August 1, 2023 by old3bob

[old3bob]

13 hours ago, Bindi said:

In my unpopular opinion they are divided and this is the human problem that we’re all trying to solve. 

 

Ultimately not divided although effectively so if we are  divided...

Edited August 1, 2023 by old3bob

[Michael Sternbach]

9 hours ago, Apech said:

 

Yes.  A beginner is someone at the start or opening of something.  Such as the start of a race perhaps, on your marks, get set, go.  As a sequence. Or someone who is first learning something like a set of procedures such as the rules of Chess - move a pawn two squares forward and so on (or perhaps advance a knight which can jump over other pieces.)  A person who is learning this kind of thing would be called a beginner.  Because they are at the beginning or start or opening.

 

Dzogchen often translated as  the Great perfection comprises teachings of the Nyingmapa (Red Hat) sect of Tibetan Buddhism or Lamaism as it is sometimes known.  Also the Bon Po teach a similar system with the same name.  These are said to be the ultimate teachings and are distinct to the other yanas or ways.

 

 

 

Oh well... It's all a matter of perspective. 

 

[Michael Sternbach]

4 hours ago, Mark Foote said:

That's gotta be the most unpopular opinion on this thread, no one responded to it (not even me!).

 

Well, that's no longer true now, plus I got three 'likes' for it up to now.

 

I will try my best to do worse next time. 😜

[Daniel]

1 hour ago, old3bob said:

nope, he wore something else 

 

Those are just his material outer-garments.