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What happens if you build energy but Never CIRCULATE it or guide to LDT ?

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What happens if you build a lot of chi or other energies Daily, for a longer time, maybe months, maybe years, and never do qiqong or visualisation/Yi exercises of any kind; let alone any kind of meditation; maybe you just work out - ala western style?  -- Would the chi leak into the environment?

For the past few weeks I've been using chi charged videos and images on my phone, just let them on my lap or tucked in at the belt area while doing sitting down at the desk/office. Chi is building up for sure.

 

Related to this question, what if you NEVER focus on dan tiens ever! Many hindus/buddhists/etc and legendary yogis have strong prana but never focus on the LDT stuff of daoism. Do these structures or 'things' form on their own eventually as long as the energy accumulates and you live a calm/healthy, maybe meditative lifestyle?

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This is a real important question. I don't posit to have the answer unfortunately, and I would enjoy it if more experienced folks could chime in.

 

I will tell a tale and entertain you though. Once, a super advanced member of this forum wrote "What is the LDT ?". I won't say whom. That is something to ponder. I will say that in the more traditional systems of neidan, you need to focus on LDT.

 

Look at Wang Liping's system for example.  According to Nathan, his lead Western instructor, you need 6 hours of meditation a day to create the (first) elixir in the LDT. Might take a year or more. And then they have 9 elixirs in total in their tradition. Nine. And that's not even the fetus yet. Got a few decades to spare ?

 

>> Got LDT ? 

 

That is the question. Maybe it's like that "Got Milk ?" commercial. At first, the company wasn't selling much, until they posed the question to their target audience... Got Milk ? Suddenly they needed it, because they felt something was lacking. Isn't it the same for cultivation ?

 

Some early Masters didn't even know what a LDT was, and it would come as a by-product of meditation and sitting practice. What I gathered from Master Ni Hua Ching in particular, is that sublimation is more important than LDT, although they can work hand in hand too. But the LDT isn't the end I mean. As long as energy sublimates, it is alchemy in that you are refining your gross sexual energy to subtle energy. 

 

And I think your question is only natural. We're conditioned to return the Qi to LDT, and it is safe too. But I would venture the thought that if you keep your mind still on your whole body, and don't specifically focus on LDT, I think you can still be fine, if you follow the principle of naturalness.

 

In fact, I think not knowing what the LDT is, and not worrying about it, is sometimes more natural than having pre-conceived ideas about returning all the Qi there (and "packing it there" whatever that means). In other words, if you don't look for it, let it find you. Keep the mind still and one day you will feel heat from the lower abdomen region. Then you might say, "Hi LDT !" If your family and friends are around, they may send you to a psych ward though, so be careful.

 

But if you are following a system, then please follow every step along the way. Creating a LDT is the starting point for many systems. I'm just saying if you practice in a natural way and don't impose any frames on your practice, then you're in a good place. At least you can learn and move from there to any system if you want too, and eventually build a DanTian if needed.

 

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tldr: Fire Deviation.

 

No the qi would not be released into the environment. It will get clogged up inside you and fry your brain, burn your nerve, keeping you in intense discomfort and eventually drive you insane.

 

Refer to this guy as a cautionary tale

 

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21 hours ago, EmeraldHead said:

What happens if you build a lot of chi or other energies Daily, for a longer time, maybe months, maybe years, and never do qiqong or visualisation/Yi exercises of any kind; let alone any kind of meditation; maybe you just work out - ala western style?  -- Would the chi leak into the environment?

 

 

Chi is like money.  They come in but they are also spent. 

 

As to focusing on LDT, Taoist focuses on LDT, MDT, UDT, other parts like feet, skin, outside......, depending on the system or levels.  

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