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Do not use mantras in order to call anybody.

If you don't know the correct translation then do not use the mantra.

The hundred syllable mantra to call the Vajrasattva/Monkey King/Scorpion King is a sabotage. It provokes

a fight with him. I didn't use it for one reason...it was to long to remember.

 

Alowhatever did not have the power to defeat him.

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Agreed, do not use MANTRAS to call anybody - for that use evocation and invocation .

 

A mantra is more for a 'psychological force' ; to gain truth, reality, light, immortality, peace, love, knowledge,  action, etc .

 

Not for calling up  anybody.

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The hundred syllable mantra is part of the Bon Ngondro I have ever so slowly been accumulating, and I've had no issues with it.

 

And Nungali, some mantras are invocations. ;)

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4 minutes ago, ilumairen said:

And Nungali, some mantras are invocations. ;)

 

Yes, I think any deity related ones (like Vajrasattva/hundred syllable) definitely are invocations.

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Mantras can be pretty much anything: invocations, incantations, spells, praises, etc... 

 

If you don't receive a mantra from a Guru, then the results can be impredictables at times. 

 

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Wow... I quickly misread the first post... I thought mantra was mudra...

 

That might be like trying to reach out to a female deity and getting ilumairen instead :wub: :D

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On 5/29/2019 at 6:23 PM, dawei said:

Wow... I quickly misread the first post... I thought mantra was mudra...

 

That might be like trying to reach out to a female deity and getting ilumairen instead :wub: :D

Lol ūüėČ

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I'm reminded of something Taomeow once wrote.  I think it was Don't stare too long at Jupiter. 

Thinking of it since the planet has been unusually bright all summer. 

Guess everything likes a certain amount of privacy and it is the King after all. 

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"dont take the purple acid....you'll have to get down off them towers!"

-David Allen Coe

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On 30.05.2019 at 1:23 AM, dawei said:

Wow... I quickly misread the first post... I thought mantra was mudra...

 

That might be like trying to reach out to a female deity and getting ilumairen instead :wub: :D


Interesting. I also read it not as a "mantra," but as a "mandala at first time." :)
 

It reminded me how once upon a time I read a description of one practice. Where a person contemplated a mandala in front of himself, then he projected a mandala into a certain part of his own body (by his own mind). Thus came the invitation of a certain deity within himself.

Then it seemed a little creepy to me ... what if suddenly someone else would respond to the invitation. For example, someone from the world of "not good spirits".

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I don't know what sources you use, but according to Thomas Ashley-Farrand, the wrong pronunciation stimulates different chakra petals, and making up your own mantras can cause you to literally burn since you don't know what they're doing. 

 

Look up his books or consult one of the lineage teachers for advice. 

 

www.sanskritmantra.com

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here is one ... repeat for 3  rounds,   3 times . .

 

Owah  Tagu  Siam

 

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