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  2. It may be more accurate to say that the interaction of mental and etheric/brain substances generates consciousness. Thus consciousness is the interaction between spirit and matter. Awareness can occur without the brain being involved. For example we may become conscious of a background noise - then realize we have been aware of it for quite some time before it came into our consciousness

  3. New Age Spiritual Sources - Good/Bad

    Lairg replied to Turnip's topic in General Discussion

    Recently we have been frightened by the Hong Kong flu, AIDS, SARS, Swine flu, Covid and various lesser pandemics. Now WHO wants nations to agree to handing over powers to them - so that they can lock down populations as required Nuclear war is the latest scare - just as it was in the 1950s. Unfortunately humans are getting harder to scare. Perhaps free will is becoming a stronger quality

  4. New Age Spiritual Sources - Good/Bad

    Lairg replied to Turnip's topic in General Discussion

    As far as I have read, the concept of free will occurs later than the commonly accepted date of Christianity. That of course has an effect on their religious teachings. If Earth humans have free will then it is likely they are expected to use it - rather than praying/begging some god to rescue them. If Earth humans have free will, there is likely to be some objective for such an awkward allocation. Consider the difficulties that Anunnaki had in managing their slave humans. They finished breeding a ruling class to manage on their behalf
  5. Anil Seth believes that physical matter the brain generates consciousness, that the brain gives rise to everything we experience. That it is all just a "hallucination." He is a materialist, a physicalist. The glaring omission from his supposition, is that the physical matter he is so enamored of (the brain, the body), is also part of "everything we experience" and therefore is also "not real" and "just a hallucination." He can't claim that the physical is "real" while also claiming that everything we experience is a hallucination. he states at 7:26 "We don't just passively experience the world. we actively generate it." "The world comes as much if not more from the inside out." I actually agree with that. But "the world we experience" includes the physical body, the brain, and all of physical matter. It includes the universe and everything in it. So he is close but waaaaaaay off. He has it backwards. Our non-physical awareness (consciousness) generates the physical universe and everything in it, including the physical body and brain. Perhaps he will get there one day. But materialists can be rather attached to that world view.
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  7. New Age Spiritual Sources - Good/Bad

    Apotheose replied to Turnip's topic in General Discussion

    Very interesting topic. I’d like to point out three things: Firstly, there are indeed outdated practices. There are stories of Yogis who refused to teach ancient methods because they would not suit the modern consciousness. Ancient Initiations and methods were way rougher, because the human heart was rock solid and the mind was devoid of empathy and kindness and, thus, needed to be shaken and shattered for it to be freed from inertia. Such practices today would lead to a disproportional (as they say…) “awakening”, which would produce exaggerated emotional response. The practitioner would “feel the pain of the entire world” and would become paralyzed and (ironically) inert. Another thing that I feel needs to be discussed is the human natural sense of importance. Every generation thinks the world is falling apart because of them, when, in reality, things in the last centuries have become more civilized than before. A person who watches the news will of course focus on the negative and therefore think the “Apocalypse” is coming soon, and they will not notice that humans don’t fight for basic needs such as food and land as often as they did centuries ago. Things have changed for the better because of karma and statistics. Lastly, we need to get rid of the (not) “mystical” idea of outsourcing human accountability. No “entity” will come to save us or finish us off; we are solely responsible for our own actions. The idea of a Multiverse may be coherent in a few traditions, but in the majority of cases it’s used (consciously or unconsciously) to justify our own mistakes. This phenomenon can be observed in Christianity, for example. Many people long for a second coming of Jesus so that He can “wipe away” their sins. Well, again??! He has already come and edified a new man over Adam. The second coming means Reintegration, not a higher being coming again to wipe out human errors. Accountability is one of the most important aspects of the mystical path. However, although I stated the world changed for the better (as it really did), I agree with you that, in times of emergency, the Cosmos acts in incomprehensible manners. I doubt that, for example, in an imminence of nuclear war which could erase human life from the Earth, a strong new wave of esoteric practices/groups/acts wouldn’t emerge out of thin air.
  8. 18th-century European botanists named this Asian plant after the Bible’s Job due to its tear-shaped seeds. It was their poetic way to associate the shape of the seeds with tears, and tears with Job's suffering. The name 薏苡 (Yìyǐ) has no link to the biblical Job — it’s a phonetic approximation of the plant’s ancient Chinese name. The Divine Husbandman (神农 Shénnóng) is attributed in authorship to a group of gods prominent in polytheistic ancient Chinese culture. It is credited with introducing agriculture, herbal medicine, and the use of the plow to early Chinese civilization. Job, who lived at least 1500 years later, couldn't have written this text without the aid of a time machine. Besides, he was a wealthy herdsman (Job 1:3) and had nothing to do with agriculture, herbal medicine, and the use of the plow.

  9. Objective Magic

    Apotheose replied to cloud recluse's topic in Esoteric and Occult Discussion

    I don’t know if you are referring to what I think you are referring to, but in my opinion all this comes from England, specially from the late 1800’s A certain group of esoteric orders, claiming the name of an old western mystical tradition, started all this “magick” thing. ”Magick” is an ideology; Magic is the understanding of reality, and it may include orthodox and unorthodox methods.
  10. Anil Seth fits nicely in right here:

  11. Akashic records

    Lairg replied to old3bob's topic in Hindu Discussion

    Occasionally I make a silly decision to admit improper energies to my light body. So far I have always been able to reverse the decision with no on-going effects. I just go back on this timeline to before the decision and make a different decision. That changes the relationship energies so that there are no on-going effects from my foolishness. I have not been in a situation to observe physical changes on the same timeline. On a couple occasions there were physical differences but that was between parallel timelines.

  12. Akashic records

    stirling replied to old3bob's topic in Hindu Discussion

    Not at all, my friend! I am saying that belief in something from the past can't compete with permanent-always-happening-now insight. What I am saying is that there are "spiritual experiences" (meeting gods/past lives/akashic records/etc.) which all of us on this board can probably remember, but not experience now. Once an experience has been had it exists only in the past. If we decide these remembered experiences were "real" it is only as a belief... a story. I can remember many strange and interesting experiences, but they aren't happening here and now, and will never happen the same exact way again, if at all. Even if I DID have Jesus show up in this moment (he isn't here presently, however) I could still see that "he" was a much a part of the fabric of "emptiness" as anything else in the room he appeared in. Insight into the Dao/Emptiness/Unity/Brahman, in short, "Enlightenment" is ALWAYS visible once seen completely. It is permanent, and is the one salient characteristic of ALL phenomena, including would-be gods and akashic records. It upends the model for how the world is seen by revealing a fundamental flaw in the story we have always told ourselves about things. Once it has been seen, the story of our model of reality is shattered. The reality of the existence of an individual person (a "self"), of time, of space, and even of any two things that exist to react together is broken. The phenomena of the world, the people, trees, cars, everything else still is present, but known to be a play of impermanence happening, but transforming moment to moment, light and color - all of it with a complete lack of any intrinsic existence of its own.
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  14. Ok. Before Isreal Givens: 1. Job wrote the Divine Husbandman (farmer) text, later incorporated into The Materia Medica. Reason: The only name reference is Yi Yi Ren (Job's Tears). 2. The chinese language itself has Biblical perspectives within it. I get the distinct impression that Job had to be asian and it makes sense that he wrote Divine Farmer: "I will die in my nest and the dust will multiply my days."-Job 29:18? So Jesus would be the third time, not the second attempt.
  15. No he isn't ! I mean ... MY GOD ! .... all you have to do around here is put on a pair of 'John Lennon hipster Sunnie's ' and all of a sudden you are 'cool ' !

  16. Akashic records

    Nungali replied to old3bob's topic in Hindu Discussion

    Some say there is an 'imprint' or 'echo' left 'in this world ' . That is how some explain 'spirits or ghosts ' . One of my most interesting experiences in this regard ( part of the 'interesting' is that it had a double objective collaboration ) , I was told the 'ghost' was just that , an imprint or memory that still existed . I cant buy that at all as this communication involved things that were happening right then , including recently published music that I was playing that the 'spirit' ( I don't like these terms spirit or ghost in this incidence ... I prefer 'nice old lady ' ) commented on and appreciated . I don't see how that could be a past imprint or 'echo' .

  17. Akashic records

    Jadespear replied to old3bob's topic in Hindu Discussion

    "As much as I love the idea, an Akashic records vault full of stories about he past and future violates everything that insight into emptiness/dao/Buddha nature clearly demonstrates about reality in this moment. Speaking solely for myself, I would only believe it if I saw it but it would have to violate everything I know about the ultimate qualities of reality, AND it would have to be something that was always available in this moment." ---- VVV Ok, but you realize that you're saying a persons experience is invalid because it doesn't conform to what you believe... that itself doesn't make sense. Thats the whole point of experience trumping belief. What are you referring to as in "insight into emptiness/dao/buddha nature clearly demonstrates"? What ultimate qualities of reality do you know?
  18. not really Apech, I'd say you are a pretty cool cat ;-) (figuratively speaking)

  19. "fields of gold" and the like

    zerostao replied to old3bob's topic in The Rabbit Hole

  20. Jasper Lake Maoshan (Jason Read Daoist Magic)

    Nuralshamal replied to Nuralshamal's topic in Daoist Discussion

    Would definitely recommend you to keep going, that is the best way to make yourself stronger. Yes, I used his Cosmic Orbit DVD in the beginning 6 months when I was reading his books before I decided to go for a live workshop. It's great, but it's nothing compared to going to a live workshop. So follow the DVD, and when you've done a couple of 49 day cycles of daily practice without fail, take an online class with him. Do a couple of 49 day cycles of daily practice without fail with that. Then when you're ready mentally and financially (to invest time and money), go to a workshop. Then do 49 day cycles of that. Then again when you're ready for the larger investment of time and money, go on a retreat. Wu is hands down the most legit and authentic practioner. I have also critiqued him slightly here and there over the years, but honestly, after so many years, trying so many teachers and schools, his stuff is just so legit and authentic, I've not found anyone cloes to him, only ZYM, but he's so inacessible. Why waste time with inferior stuff "to make yourself ready?" Go for gold ASAP, you're just wasting time. The time "to prepare yourself" could've been spent leveling up and going further in your cultivation journey. We have so limited time in this life on this planet to level up spiritually, and trust me, truly leveling up spiritually is a life long journey of daily practice, it's not just over night. Every single moment is precious, don't waste it. Ofc we need some foreplay to get going, but endless foreplay serves no one. Go for the main act! Why waste time? That you've come across him means you're ready. So go for it! Enjoy
  22. Don't worry ... Gomer had his moderator as well ;
  23. Ooo oooo! I wanna play . Its temporal ( as I scroll down .) Someone has a slot drain in their shower Like I do , but for some reason its got a metal grill and the drain is blocked and water is flowing backwards out of it onto that horrible bathroom carpet .... What idiot carpets the inside of their shower ! Half way down bubbles appear in the streams of water that look like silver now and ........ < squint > Hey ! They ain't bubbles .... them those little marks that tell you it IS silver . I cant make out a ' K' or a 'crossed out O ' ... so they just a bunch of forks . . . lying on a fine toweling 80s era Flashdance wide sweat/hair band .
  24. Perhaps some gnostics could help
  25. People commonly have opinions on all sorts of things they have no business being certain about. Is it better for some random person on the street to be a vegetarian or eat meat? What´s really happening in a country I´ve never been to half way around the world? Should so-and-so still live with their parents, smoke less pot, have more or less sex? I know so much less than I think I do, a fact that I find counterintuitively reassuring. Contemplating my uncertainty brings me closer to "the light."
  26. Depends on where you live (I didn’t know either one).

  27. when will human madness end?

    Cobie replied to old3bob's topic in The Rabbit Hole

  28. Well, we could go into physics or neuroscience or religion/philosophy from here, but I prefer to define "distortions" on species-specific terms. Whales have dichromatic vision, only discerning shades of yellow and blue -- but it doesn't mean their eyesight is more distorted than ours, or less. It's adequate for the species. If perceptions work long term (in terms of evolutionary spans of time -- tens of millions of years or longer) toward a species surviving and (importantly) thriving, I say its perceptions are not distorted, they are selected and are doing their job adequately. No one can perceive "everything" if we want life on Earth. Similarly, no one can perceive "nothing" and be alive. So selected perceptions is the normal state of affairs that is a prerequisite for both biodiversity and survival of particular species. We are experimental, we haven't been around long enough to draw conclusions -- but I've a hunch we don't operate a set of selected human perceptions that are accurate and life-supporting anymore. If we ever get ourselves out of this perceptive mess, we may still straighten out our plight... time will tell. But what it "tells" right now is not very encouraging IMO. To paraphrase a well-known maxim, you can fool all your perceptions some of the time, and you can fool some of your perceptions all of the time, but you can't fool all your perceptions all of the time.
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