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  1. Has anyone had contact with deities in the astral realm? Has anyone advanced to the level of functioning as a deity in the astral realm?
  2. An end to the intellect?

    ...why on earth would you not want to think? Thinking is the basis of your intellect, which is your ability to understand things through reasoning and rationale. If you don't think and cant understand things, what kind of existence are you going to have?
  3. What We Think We Know

    ....right - exactly. Krishnamurti was a person who discovered a way to make money off of all this stuff by capitalizing on the counter-culture of his time, while incorporating an aspect of rebellion to even people who started the counter-culture... ...there are other factors involved as well, namely that no where else in the world besides the US, would a person like Krishnamurti be able to make as much money as he did in the US - obviously because his whole thing is based in using only himself as the reference point for any type of understanding, which has been the eastern view of all things fundamentally forever. He made a killing off of showing this attitude and practice to the West, in a time that was ripe for it to be received. ...if Krishnamurti actually believed 100% in what he talked about and had any life skills outside of being a philosopher ( which he didn't because all the way up until 29 years old - he was groomed by the theosophists and grew as a philosopher and meditator ), than he would have probably not been who he was in history... but alas this is only to illustrate the point that even the most profound thinkers can be hypocritical.
  4. What We Think We Know

    ...Yeah. We can never really pontificate at what was... without being there.
  5. What We Think We Know

    ...dzogchen' esque ... I would suspect, however not traditional dzogchen. Krishnamurti developed a literary concept to explain his point of view, called "choiceless awareness"... many other schools of thought refer to it as well, some of them are fundamental consciousness, etc. etc. The dzogchen refer to the "natural state" of mind as one being entirely open and unconditioned...very similar concepts. However, dzogchen departs from K's thinking when it goes into actual exercises to bring about realizations within an individual through specific practices like trekcho. K was more of a philosopher who found a way to make a living writing books and giving speeches in a time where he was viewed as an outsider to mainstream thought. The breaking away from theosophist's happened because when he was a member of the group that became them later on, while in his youth, his brother was ill. The later to be theosophists wanted K to be the leader of their group the order of the star, and they even went so far as to guarantee him that they would heal his brother, these are invisible spiritual masters we are talking about... they did not heal him and his brother died. Thus laid the root for the long life of bitterness K had towards anyone promising him anything and an attitude of extreme criticism towards everything.
  6. What We Think We Know

    ...I think that everything Krishnamurti ever spoke on or cared to exude can be summed up in his most famous quote, that he used to begin his speech when he disbanded the order of the star in front of thousands of people, due to his brother dying and he having lost faith in theosophists... " truth is a pathless land "
  7. What We Think We Know

    ...no one really knew what Krishnamurti “advocated” for. He was the most against advocating anything during his time. And the relationship of words meaning more to people than what they represent was one of his lifelong criticisms of modern society.
  8. What We Think We Know

    ...Yes, obviously. But, you haven't really elaborated on what it actually is... all you have done is shown that the word is separate from the actual thing and recognized that a tree is an actual thing that has a presence that you can feel... so would you care to try and attempt to make your previous statement mean anything? "It's so much more.." --- you haven't proven that yet. To some people the word "tree" could mean more to them than you realize, then the power of the word can be even more powerful than the actual thing itself...
  9. What We Think We Know

    ...obviously a tree is just a word. Care to elaborate on what makes it so much more? The light that is actually everywhere and in everything is what I tend to see... i actually understand trees and all life to be more or less the same fundamentally so - it's all forms of life existing by virtue of the innate light that is in actually everything... so however complex something can be or seem, it ultimately is not. Hence my simplistic point of view and obvious candor for real resolve. I have not found a single thing that does not contain that light. I think Patanjali called it, the "purusha" - absolute consciousness, that is actually what everything really is on the inside.
  10. What We Think We Know

    ...maybe not for abnormal people. That's why I said normal people. Balanced people. Show me a person on this planet that wants to die and be miserable who is actually alive. I was just illustrating a point that there are both absolute unchangeable things about life as well as things that do change based upon our choices. The concept of absolute truth is not a nebulous idea, as it can easily be illustrated in any way- water boils at and only at a certain temperature; no one can change this. ...ok - well the "knowledge" of what mystical concept that can't be described or spoken? No matter what it is - its a potential truth, or fact, that can be expressed conceptually and in a significantly meaningfully enough way to be understood. Such is the beauty of words of course. The normally unseen world and everything "spiritual" is a world of things just like the material world that we see is, in so far that it exists and operates through specific parameters and is subject to absolute truths; i.e. like it takes time to read, to walk places, etc. The same method of knowing how you know something applies to both worlds... ...I think that the mysterious stigma that can be attached to the concept of spirituality should really be done away with. It really only creates doubt and confusion. How does one know what they fundamentally are? they simply see it, just like when one sees a tree, or another person.
  11. What We Think We Know

    lol..... thanks for your "opinion".
  12. From East to West

    ...sounds like you may find the writings of William Mistele interesting... he refers to great beings and the like all the time. from what I can gather by reading occult and magic books is that there are certain entities that basically control or influence every single aspect of life itself.
  13. What We Think We Know

    ...i think the world of human civilization is in a state of permanent evolution or change. This permanent "evolution" is driven or made to be what it is by the constancy of both definite truth and also of relative values. What I mean by definite truth are the basics of every normal thinking person - they want to survive and be happy doing what they choose to do. What I mean by relative values is that every person and every group and every nation - in short everyone everywhere has their own values, not just personal beliefs - i mean decisions that are made from a base of what is valued; like what to buy and what to sell. Hence - human society is always struggling to cope and deal with this in how to organize everything- enter politics and all the rest of it. ...How we know what we know? What's so hard about this...? facts are facts, lies are lies, truth is truth. It's a branch of defined philosophy called logical positivism. Asking for the basis of knowledge has been answered by science. ...is there some-kind of knowledge that you are referring to specifically?
  14. Favorite Daoist Quote

    ...don't be too sure of anything....not even that.
  15. I’m going to attempt to offer some final thoughts on this question of what is the end goal of Taoism. Taoism as a collective understanding of intellectual and mental and spiritual practices is a way to cultivate oneself in harmony with the natural way of things ( the Tao ). The Tao is a word to describe everything that is beyond words. That’s why ( the Tao translates to the way or the method ) method or way or tao is ever existent and not possible to change. Hence first and foremost a Taoist must comprehend what cannot be changed so that one can understand more about things and how to live long happy healthy and wise through the way of their lives and the lives of everything else. Certain taoist teachings lay the process of the evolution of all life as a fundamental aspect of the Tao or of the natural way of things...In such teachings human beings are regarded highly within the types of intelligent life that exist and because human beings are born with the same evolutionary compulsion as all life is- they too must fulfill the need to evolve into a higher form. What constitutes higher forms of human beings are titled in Taoism as immortals. Immortal to mean beyond normal typical mortality, or said another way - beings that understand ,can express, and use the eternal quantities and qualities of the eternal and unchanging nature of the way of things ( the Tao ) in a mental, spiritual, or physical way. At the end of such an exalted developed individual’s evolution ( a celestial immortal ) an embodied being is literally able to be and is karmically encouraged to be one with the entirety of the Tao itself....such a being is not bound by space or time, such a being is able to unite and work outside of space and time in the spaceless and timeless area of influence that is the Tao itself. This type of being is one that does possess all the mystical supernatural abilities , etc. etc. ...the goal of taoist internal cultivation is to develop oneself into this type of being, so as to serve as a steward of the Tao across the universes of all that is. Along the way to reach this freedom, the Tao assists and protects and guides oneself, and can even halt all progress should it be necessary for any reason. All of this is why taoists teachings emphasize leading people by being inconspicuous and not self serving - because that is a fundamental trait that is understood to be the essence of the Tao itself. Hence why it is called “the subtle “ “ ever desireless one can see the mystery. Ever desiring one can see the manifestations . These two spring Forth from the same source but appear different in name. This appears mysterious. This sameness is the mystery. Mystery within mystery. The door to all marvels.”