blue eyed snake Posted September 30 Newspaper article from the Netherlands, see for yourself, written in English. https://www.volkskrant.nl/kijkverder/v/2024/the-outside-world-knows-wim-hof-as-the-eccentric-iceman-his-family-suffered-domestic-violence~v1176564/ 1 4 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blue eyed snake Posted September 30 i guess it has a paywall so this here might be better, dutch but the digital god will translate https://web.archive.org/web/20240930101309/https://www.volkskrant.nl/kijkverder/v/2024/de-buitenwereld-kent-wim-hof-als-de-excentrieke-iceman-zijn-gezin-ging-gebukt-onder-huiselijk-geweld~v1175483/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nungali Posted September 30 (edited) 3 hours ago, blue eyed snake said: i guess it has a paywall so this here might be better, dutch but the digital god will translate https://web.archive.org/web/20240930101309/https://www.volkskrant.nl/kijkverder/v/2024/de-buitenwereld-kent-wim-hof-als-de-excentrieke-iceman-zijn-gezin-ging-gebukt-onder-huiselijk-geweld~v1175483/ Its sickening .... I have had to deal with 'one of these ' . The worst part is the support they get from others .... for a variety of lame, stupid, base or conditioned 'reasoning' ( feelings ? ) ... even when exposed ! Some even buy his excuses ! he tried them on me ... trying to excuse his behavior or shift blame . I could not believe it as everything he said , and people thought that was valid , is in all the current adverts about domestic violence as ; " NO EXCUSE ! " .... listening to him was like listening to this list of 'not an excuse ! " He would try it on me as well, if he didnt think I would take him out in a flash if he tried it on ... its all they understand . I have had to go on 'watch' twice with him (meaning I was on alert to immediately respond to any attempt of his to harass or threaten a certain woman . And of course, he still remains some type of cool 'go to' hero guy - sickening . And me ? Well, I dont 'fit in' do I because of my potentially violent nature ! Well, thats what I settled down to , and I dont care ... its what works ! And I think if more people stood up in their face and do what I do (even though I suffer socially from it ) we would not have as much domestic violence and abuse of children and elderly . So I blame the pathetic flaccid immoral nature of society as well . [ My mates friend was upset as his daughter being beaten by ice junkie BF . He said '' I know its her fault as she should leave him , but thats my daughter with bruises and black eyes ! " So the two of them went around to visit him when she wasnt there - kicked the door in , he squealed for the police of course , but they pointed out he still had ice pipe and stuff about ; go on then .... then explained for every mark they see on her, he gets two of the same . They gave him a sample to think about . - some think that was shocking ..... but daughter got no more black eyes and bruises . Who lives by the sword (or fear . violence and stand over tactics ) dies by it .... Edited September 30 by Nungali 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
silent thunder Posted September 30 (edited) Abhorrent and pathetic in the extreme. Edited September 30 by silent thunder 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gerard Posted September 30 (edited) The first link in English works perfectly fine. Maybe PW for people living in the Netherlands. Edit: never heard of this person before. How did people come across with this healer? Edited September 30 by Gerard 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
-ꦥꦏ꧀ ꦱꦠꦿꦶꦪꦺꦴ- Posted October 1 6 hours ago, Gerard said: The first link in English works perfectly fine. Maybe PW for people living in the Netherlands. Edit: never heard of this person before. How did people come across with this healer? He’s probably the most famous and mainstream “healer” in the West these days, or at least in Europe. He even has his own show on the BBC here in the UK 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blue eyed snake Posted October 1 11 hours ago, Nungali said: Some even buy his excuses ! he tried them on me ... trying to excuse his behavior or shift blame . I could not believe it as everything he said , and people thought that was valid , is in all the current adverts about domestic violence as ; " NO EXCUSE ! " .... listening to him was like listening to this list of 'not an excuse ! " DARVO ("deny, attack, and reverse victim & offender") is a reaction that perpetrators of wrongdoing, such as sexual offenders, may display in response to being held accountable for their behavior. Some researchers indicate that it is a common manipulation strategy of psychological abusers. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DARVO 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
forestofclarity Posted October 1 12 hours ago, Gerard said: How did people come across with this healer? Many of us have taken his online courses. My body was able, with training, to stay submerged in high mountain lakes at very low temperatures for unsafe periods of time. It goes to show that demonstrable physical and mental mastery is meaningless if the heart is cold and cruel. I'm glad she is bringing this to light. It can be very hard and re-traumatizing for victims of abuse to expose themselves in this way. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RobB Posted October 1 https://www.scottcarney.com/blog/the-rise-and-fall-of-the-wim-hof-empire 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
liminal_luke Posted October 1 (edited) ... Edited October 1 by liminal_luke Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blue eyed snake Posted October 2 4 hours ago, liminal_luke said: ... .... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
liminal_luke Posted October 2 1 hour ago, blue eyed snake said: .... Yeah, I had one of those ... moments. It´s something that happens to me from time to time, probably because of all the cold showers. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
doc benway Posted October 2 I was not aware there have been so many deaths linked to Hof's teachings. Also had no idea about his personal demons. When I learned tummo, it was taught in a very cautious manner with all participants being closely monitored by several monks throughout the retreat. I always felt Hof was a bit careless with the way he presented these teachings to the general public. They can have profound physiological effects and not everyone is suited to the practice. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blue eyed snake Posted October 2 Well, i was aware of it, he's a landsman of mine and every now and then some bad news about him pops up, dangerous fellow. As a youngster I was taught the trick of fast breathing to enable me to swim long stretches under water, not without very strict instructions and dire warnings and listen closely to the signals of your body. What Hof is doing can be very dangerous, i have a lot of respect for the lady now that at last she comes out with the story so clearcut. That takes more guts then Hof will ever muster. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanC Posted Saturday at 04:53 AM His breathing technique is basically hyperventilating, I much much prefer the Buteyko school of pure light nasal breathing, increasing the bodies CO2 tolerance and improving body oxygenation... Buteyko is much more in line with Taoist breathing techniques. In regards to cold water immersion that's been practiced in Scandinavia and Russia for centuries, also in Harbin northern China.... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites