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20 hours ago, Lord Josh Allen said:

 

Hi there buddy! Thanks! Wow, what a story you have. Great to meet you. One thing you should know about me, I don't take myself seriously at all, I make fun of myself more than anyone can. I'm really not at all bothered by what people say, I get flack online, offline, you name it but I'm unapologetically me. I've walked down the street and been physically attacked for the way I dress, I've experienced everything. Not everyone will resonate with it but that's not my goal, I'm here to meet people who may have similar interests and I'm here to learn from people who are polar opposites to me. Awesome Tesla by the way! I've heard great things about them. I've never had an electric car, Jags going to release an electric XJ soon. I'll be ordering it! 

 

 

Excellent ! 

 

Pleased to meet ya ! 

 

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{ I will get to weather magickkkkkkkk  soon ,  I promise .  )

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17 hours ago, Taomeow said:

 

I participated.  It was my second attempt at hurricane management.  The first one I was actually smack in the middle of -- Irene -- when 2.5 million people got evacuation orders and Manhattan was expected to share the fate of Atlantis and so on and nothing much wound up happening.  The night everybody was bracing for the landfall I was in a hotel that had no power and was inhabited by a stranded Canadian hockey team and no one else -- the personnel chose to flee.  Those guys rolled all the chairs on castors they could find out into the corridor and raced each other riding those chairs, lit by candles and lightnings and glowing cigarettes, and there was absolutely nothing out of the ordinary life about the whole scene, the wind and rain picking up and suddenly I was transported back to the rain forest where I got my crash course in rain management.  So I stepped outside and stood in the rain and spent a good hour diffusing the hurricane -- no, I don't have scientific proof, or any other kind.  And, no, I can't manipulate the climate -- just what I was taught, extreme rainy weather threatening life and limb, nothing else.  And no, I can't undrought a drought or turn Africa into Seattle or London.  

 

 

Diffusing is the perfect word!  Changing the form of something already existing.  Multiply something that is already there.  I'm so glad you remember the tornado situation with Mal.  Were you as awestruck as I was when it made a square step away from the town?  I'm currently reading the series about the Masters of the Far East by Baird Spaulding - I'm guessing you've already had your way with this series of books?  One of the masters that appeared to them in Book 4 was Jesus, who talked with them about walking on water, using the water molecules to thicken themselves somehow - but he definitely takes the mystery out of those physical anomalies by somehow merging mind energy so it participates with the object of his focus.

 

Lord Allen, you are capable of seeing so many facets of the dynamics.  And you appear to be an exquisite showman - your photos are wonderful.  And I'm guessing you are one really knowledgeable person.  What you have done is climbed a mountain at your young age, but now your spirit needs to grow in a different direction.  That's probably why you found your way to us.

 

Many of us here have realized that there is a place of commonality between all paths.  I call it the place of metaphysics, but there are other words for it.  It is self-realization, regardless of what path we choose to get there.  It is what remains within us after we have spent many years allowing the Dao (or the Dao working through something else, like NA or AA) to bring our egos down to size.  The funny part of this segment of the path, is that it's counterintuitive to everything we've learned previously.  It's not learned by piling knowledge upon more knowledge - rather, it's discovered within us after we have given a concerted effort to parent ourselves, to be of the best character we can be, because we know that the total clarity we seek can only be seen through a clean vessel.  Those things that obstruct our vision must be removed.  Many of us here have walked a long path together.

 

This is the true beauty of the Dao Bums.  We love each other.  My suggestion would be to look within and see exactly why you remain in a state of rebellion.  I recognize it because I was it.  When you're rebelling from something or someone, you are forever tied to that person or thing.  If someone says to go left, you have to go right because of the rebellion.  That limits you in your actions by 50%.  Whereas if the rebellion has been resolved, you will be able to go either left or right.  Look for the origination of this - way back when; and one you become aware of it, ask your higher self to remove the tendency.  Then, just chop wood and carry water and see what happens.

 

Do have fun on this new playground.  Glad you're here; just be kind to everyone, that's all.  Same advice for everybody.

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20 hours ago, Earl Grey said:

 

Sure thing, pal. I apologize for the ribbing earlier--didn't expect you to join the forum, but you're showing you're fairly open, so we can discuss some stuff. 

 

Maybe 'stuff' is outa the way now ?     My posts about weather magic are getting closer now .

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9 minutes ago, manitou said:

Many of us here have realized that there is a place of commonality between all paths.  I call it the place of metaphysics, but there are other words for it.  It is self-realization, regardless of what path we choose to get there.  It is what remains within us after we have spent many years allowing the Dao (or the Dao working through something else, like NA or AA) to bring our egos down to size.  The funny part of this segment of the path, is that it's counterintuitive to everything we've learned previously.  It's not learned by piling knowledge upon more knowledge - rather, it's discovered within us after we have given a concerted effort to parent ourselves, to be of the best character we can be, because we know that the total clarity we seek can only be seen through a clean vessel.  Those things that obstruct our vision must be removed.  Many of us here have walked a long path together.

 

Your clarity shines like the sun!

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9 minutes ago, manitou said:

 

Do have fun on this new playground.  Glad you're here; just be kind to everyone, that's all.  Same advice for everybody.

 

Love you darlin'!

 

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To my memory, two Bums have mentioned their weather working in this thread -- Lord Josh Allen and Taomeow.  I hope they´ll forgive me if I mention that I´d love to watch a True Life drama of the two of them paired up riding around the country in Josh´s Jag diffusing dangerous hurricanes and tornados.  

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5 hours ago, Starjumper said:

 

OK, good.  if I recall correctly you said you got your information from books.  I also know that Jerry Johnson is very knowledgeable about Taoist magic, and I guess someone who is smart can learn a lot from them.  Did you happen to have an in person teacher? 

 

I myself learned a kind of magic that is never found in books and is a spontaneous result of doing a proper nei kung practice, which can only be learned in person.  I don't even know most of them silly words that these bookophiles toss around here, nor do I need to.  I like plain English.

 

Anyway, if you enjoy slinging crap from time to time, you came to the right place.  Most of the crap slingers here don't enjoy it, much to their dismay.  Self honesty is difficult to come by these days.

 

My chi kung teacher told me some bits about controlling the weather, and I had an Indian buddy who claimed to do it.  Both were focussed more on calling the sun into cloudy Seattle.  I tried it a couple of times and lost interest.

That's right, I have read Johnson's books but I haven't met him. I don't have any in-person teacher at this time. 

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29 minutes ago, manitou said:

 

 

Diffusing is the perfect word!  Changing the form of something already existing.  Multiply something that is already there.  I'm so glad you remember the tornado situation with Mal.  Were you as awestruck as I was when it made a square step away from the town?  I'm currently reading the series about the Masters of the Far East by Baird Spaulding - I'm guessing you've already had your way with this series of books?  One of the masters that appeared to them in Book 4 was Jesus, who talked with them about walking on water, using the water molecules to thicken themselves somehow - but he definitely takes the mystery out of those physical anomalies by somehow merging mind energy so it participates with the object of his focus.

 

Lord Allen, you are capable of seeing so many facets of the dynamics.  And you appear to be an exquisite showman - your photos are wonderful.  And I'm guessing you are one really knowledgeable person.  What you have done is climbed a mountain at your young age, but now your spirit needs to grow in a different direction.  That's probably why you found your way to us.

 

Many of us here have realized that there is a place of commonality between all paths.  I call it the place of metaphysics, but there are other words for it.  It is self-realization, regardless of what path we choose to get there.  It is what remains within us after we have spent many years allowing the Dao (or the Dao working through something else, like NA or AA) to bring our egos down to size.  The funny part of this segment of the path, is that it's counterintuitive to everything we've learned previously.  It's not learned by piling knowledge upon more knowledge - rather, it's discovered within us after we have given a concerted effort to parent ourselves, to be of the best character we can be, because we know that the total clarity we seek can only be seen through a clean vessel.  Those things that obstruct our vision must be removed.  Many of us here have walked a long path together.

 

This is the true beauty of the Dao Bums.  We love each other.  My suggestion would be to look within and see exactly why you remain in a state of rebellion.  I recognize it because I was it.  When you're rebelling from something or someone, you are forever tied to that person or thing.  If someone says to go left, you have to go right because of the rebellion.  That limits you in your actions by 50%.  Whereas if the rebellion has been resolved, you will be able to go either left or right.  Look for the origination of this - way back when; and one you become aware of it, ask your higher self to remove the tendency.  Then, just chop wood and carry water and see what happens.

 

Do have fun on this new playground.  Glad you're here; just be kind to everyone, that's all.  Same advice for everybody.

Thank you for complimenting my photos. I believe creativity and magick go hand in hand. Taoism is not the only focus of my life, I have many other interests and goals which have little to do with ritualism. That being said, I have dedicated a lot of my energy, money and time into Taoist Occultism. I'm currently enjoying the book "The Teachings of Taoist Master Chuang" I'm quite impressed with the information within that book. I am tied to many things, that is true, but these ties give me pleasure and purpose. I don't know a whole lot about this forum having just joined very recently but I'm no stranger to various forums. I'm on the Become A Living God page which is mostly for Left-Hand Path Occultists. I'd hesitate to call them "my people" as I usually feel like an alien in pretty much every community, not complaining about that either. Thank you for sharing your wisdom with me. 

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On 13/02/2020 at 10:52 AM, Lord Josh Allen said:

. Has anyone had experience with this art? Please feel free to share. 

 

Yes, as a youth , in a certain way , I failed .

 

Then I did 'cloud dispersal '  .... it worked .   WOW !     But then I just observed clouds  ... without any intent magick or anything .

 

If one observes ...... for a LONG time  .....   (and I mean longer than the modern person usually  observes things  -  like when you are  lying on a couch out on the verandah , with an expansive view .... and have  a broken ankle ... or cant walk becasue of your back ... for days on end  )  one notices  things  , like ;      certain clouds disperse by themselves       :D    ya just gotta pick the right ones !

 

Lets go forward ..... I tried 'occult rituals '   and  altars and occult tools   and ....      ( we will get to that later, I hope   .....  my 'set up - for  other  ritual, not for weather magic  ...   'altars and occult tools'  seems just as 'flamboyant '   ( hmmm ... does that mean 'lifting the flame '?   :) )   as some of your set ups .    .... oh yeah , that failed .

 

But, after learning more ,  I could actually demonstrate weather 'magic' to observers  .... they where gobsmacked !  

 

Objective observer ;  a clear nice day , clear blue sky in late January , late afternoon .  I do my ritual .  Clouds come from 'nowhere' out the western  horizon ,  they gather and rumble  .  Mad lightning storm around us . Now I am outside the temple, holding aloft a huge ritual steel sword  (hand made from the remains found in an old abandoned sawmill , the main circular blade ... they  dont make steel like THAT anymore ...  the stories and adventure THAT metal has holds ! ) and the 'magicum electrum' bowl held aloft , the sword swinging spirals .   Our new ' Neophyte tells me I am crazy  .. he actually did a runner   :D    ( later he said he was scared of being hit by the lightening   as it hit the  sword . )     I collected some rain water, some light hail and some 'wind blown rubbish ' in the bowl .

- we drank it later .

 

Spoiler

 I hid this bit as I dont want to spoil peoples 'fun'    ;)

 

yeah , after  25 years here  back (then) I knew that  that particular year with those particular weather patterns  at that time of day a storm was more than likely to appear exactly  the way it did .   The ritual was actually  collecting the charged water  and drinking it .

 

I also observe that when the blood wood  trees flower at their peak, that is the most likely time that  afternoon storms and thunder and hail appear .   Of course , bloodwood is a powerful  indigenous medicine  , topically .  its a bit rough to make a tonic out of .  But the flower essence  works great internally ... especially  when made in an electrically charged atmosphere  and magically zapped  .... 'on the rocks '  .

 

Another time ... moving along IN time  ...   I had a visiting Aboriginal elder  ( from outside my area ) . We talked about calling up a storm or rain .  I told him I could do that   (  some of the older generation indigenous around here , now sadly 'passed on'   had a nick name for me  ' Biaganbelligen '    the 'native cat' or marsupial quoll    from Dreamtime  he is known as ' a cheeky fellow ' )

 

He immediacy responded  " Oh yes , so can I !  "   Then I explained how I did it  ( as in spoiler above )    and he " No not like  that I can do it any time , I can do it without tricks , I can  ...  "      okay then   :)

 

Time moves on , I study and learn and practice all sorts of things , including getting a teacher  in  Australian Aboriginal Shamanism .

 

let's move forward to now .  Everything is sooo simple   ..... or am I just older and smarter   ?    :D

 

Spoiler

 Mark Twain  ( please excuse the paraphrase  ) :

 

When I was 17 I could not believe how stupid my father was . By the time I was  ( ?   some age  ?  ) I could not believe how smart the  old man had become in a few years !

 

:D

 

 

Now it goes something like this ;

 

" Big Mum .....  cant you stop this bushfire  ?  "

 

" The forest needs to burn .  Even you have noticed the build up of leaf litter and non rotted material and how dry it is out there .  people stopped burning off .  You already realised how 10,000 years of land management set up this place , no one has done it properly for over 200 years !  And you know I cant look after you lot properly UNLESS you follow my laws ... they are there to HELP you , live happily  for  over LONG periods of time . "

 

" Yes , your right ... but my house !  and all this , cant you just stop it or divert it or   ... "

 

" Oh all right then !  "  ( Mums are like that   :) )  .... but what about next year ..... all the bits that arent burned  will be worse and the fire bigger . You are going to have to do something about that . "

 

Now ;  "  Hey Mum , we having a huge flood now ? "

 

" Of course ....   country  get a good 'smoking '  ....

 

 

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they even do it at official government ceremonies , opening, weddings , etc now ;

 

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Now she need a good wash . "

 

I find my recent attempt interesting though ; I recently got back in contact with a very close exGF long lost and lamented one . Ahhh, the sparks still there .  But she is having a hard time on multiple fronts , then devastating fire  threatened her  area .

 

I asked Big Mum to look after her , and told her to ask Big Mum too .    " Let's try and get a bubble around you . "

 

Now when I look at the fire map  (just in her area ), its rather 'interesting ' ;

 

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Its the white area  on the coast .

 

Did I do that ?    Couldn't care less if I did or not   as

 

that was not the point

 

the point was to help my friend ... so it all worked out well .

 

Did  Big Mum do that ?  Of course she did  .... you just have to understand  'who  '  Big Mum is and how she works .

 

Did my asking cause Big Mum to consider things  ?   I think that is best left to individual interpretation .

 

All I will say  is ,  I have learnt what works really good for me  .... and to be appreciative and thankful helps  ;)

 

 

... and now the sun is shining brightly , I can see across the valley over the rainforest to the escapement , all 3 waterfalls are abso pumping !  But the river is raging ..... Big Mum must have me flooded in still , so I can spend all day on TDBs   .... enlightening people .

 

B)

 

 

{ and you guys thought  Lord Josh Allen was up himself !  ) 

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I believe a lot of people who are just beginning to research this topic, tend to misunderstand the goals of weather magick. There are really two camps, those who see the practice as simply "controlling" the weather (summoning storms, wind, rain, etc) and those who see the deeper meanings. Every type and condition of weather corresponds to an emotion, just as there are external storms there are also internal ones that exist within the mind and body of man "As Within So Without" Practicing magick to suppress an external storm may be used as a meditation exercise to quell or overcome ones "inner demons" For example, one could work with the wind to blow away bad luck or blow away self-destructive patterns of behavior such as addictions. One could work with rain to wash away the old therefore bringing in the new (manifesting new opportunities, jobs, meeting new people, having new experiences) When working with snow, ice or frost, one of the most amazing things you can do is self-heal traumatic memories. Within my system, snow is linked to memories and the past. The practitioner should go outside and begin energetically projecting their traumatic experiences into a concentrated area of snow on the ground. 

 

One should visualize the most uncomfortable and disturbing things they have ever been through in their lives, imagining that it is being imbued into the external world. Then, the practitioner will begin the exercise to heat the snow by projecting qi into the area. Eventually, the heat will melt the snow and this represents the memories being dissolved into nothingness. I created this spell for my own benefit and I can say, for me, it does work very well. It is also worth mentioning that hail is viewed as a creation which is the result of Yin and Yang colliding together, I always that was fascinating. If a Taoist wished to “Call The Winds” he or she would make use of magical hand gestures known as “Hand Seals” There are eight different hand gestures that control the eight different directions of the wind, each seal corresponds to a trigram within the Bagua. For example, to invoke the powers of the Southeastern wind, the practitioner would attempt to re-create the trigram of "Xun" (Wind/Air) with his or her fingers. As the hand gesture is performed, an incantation should accompany it, there is more to it of course but you get a general idea. 

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50 minutes ago, liminal_luke said:

To my memory, two Bums have mentioned their weather working in this thread -- Lord Josh Allen and Taomeow.  I hope they´ll forgive me if I mention that I´d love to watch a True Life drama of the two of them paired up riding around the country in Josh´s Jag diffusing dangerous hurricanes and tornados.  

 

Thunderbirds are GO !

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36 minutes ago, manitou said:

 

Diffusing is the perfect word!  Changing the form of something already existing.  Multiply something that is already there.  I'm so glad you remember the tornado situation with Mal.  Were you as awestruck as I was when it made a square step away from the town?  I'm currently reading the series about the Masters of the Far East by Baird Spaulding - I'm guessing you've already had your way with this series of books?  One of the masters that appeared to them in Book 4 was Jesus, who talked with them about walking on water, using the water molecules to thicken themselves somehow - but he definitely takes the mystery out of those physical anomalies by somehow merging mind energy so it participates with the object of his focus.

 

Yes, I'm glad you remember Mal's tornado too!  Cool idea with using sympathetic magic alongside some high/low pressure science, very much like some of the creative shamans go about these things -- or a cat presented with a box: if I fits, I sits.  I remember doing some preparatory reading on ayahuasca before undertaking the trip, and coming across an account by an entheogens science guy who suggested to the indigenous shaman, based on his (scientist's) knowledge of biochemistry, that he could add this and that plant to enhance the effect of chacruna (which prevents the breakdown of ayahuasca's DMT in the gut).  He expected a stern rebuff even as he was speaking.  The shaman took the plant he was suggesting, examined it, sniffed it, then proclaimed, "What an excellent idea!" and threw it into the pot where he was cooking his ayahuasca-chacruna concoction without further ado.  It changed nothing, as it later became clear.  But there's no harm in trying if there's trust, right?

 

No, I'm not familiar with that series of books, thanks for the reference, I'll look into that.  About Jesus who knew how to make super-dense water (normally encountered in the Solar system only on some of the moons of Jupiter) -- a very interesting bit of information! -- the technology is actually natural, it's just that the application on Earth asks for some kind of know-how that is bound to look  supernatural...  as Arthur C. Clarke put it, "any sufficiently high technology is indistinguishable from magic."    In the case of the  hurricane, I used the technology I know -- wuxing negotiations coupled with ayahuasca's rain-specific 4 hour long crash course.  It is absolutely natural to someone with a background in taoist empiricism.  I don't know of course if it worked or I merely witnessed two coincidences with Mal's tornado and hurricane Irene.  (And Wang Liping's audience with the Moscow Dragon I wrote about at some point too...  another coincidence perhaps...)  

 

As a general approach though I try not to jump to the "coincidence" conclusion without sufficient proof -- the burden of which I place fully on the party proclaiming "just a coincidence."  I'm not a coincidence theorist. :D   After all, those square hats coincidence theorists wear upon graduation were invented by taoists to symbolize a square earth...  Coincidence?.. ;) 

 

 

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54 minutes ago, liminal_luke said:

To my memory, two Bums have mentioned their weather working in this thread -- Lord Josh Allen and Taomeow.  I hope they´ll forgive me if I mention that I´d love to watch a True Life drama of the two of them paired up riding around the country in Josh´s Jag diffusing dangerous hurricanes and tornados.  

 

Would not you rather see me and Lord Josh together in Australia while I take him on tour and show him my  'Aussie bush magic ' ?

 

 

 

 

 

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9 minutes ago, Nungali said:

 

Would not you rather see me and Lord Josh together in Australia while I take him on tour and show him my  'Aussie bush magic ' ?

 

 

Nah, as a Daoist buddy movie I think Lord Josh Allen and Taomeow would work better together.  Between Josh´s sartorial flair and Taomeow´s equally cinematic snappy take-no-prisoners dialogue...can you say Academy Awards nominee shoe-in?  You, Nungali, are enough of a character to star in a movie all by your lonesome.  

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I WAS .... supposedly  .... I even wrote the script for free !   Its about  >  Dr Bacon's expereince  working in the Aussie film industry <

 

But the bastard USA big knob producer, that started the whole thing  (after working with me and getting to know me ... just a teenie bit ... did a runner back to USA   just as I finished first draft !    No  $$$$$$$$$$$$$$  of course .

 

But if it ever gets   done , I am gonna re write with  Lord Josh in it ! 

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... if only I had some pics to post of me back then .....  getting out of   stretch limo at  'Verse archi'  (  as  I made a point of referring to Versace in a broad Aussie accent to my cringing  'compatriots' )  @   ' The    Gold Coast  '  ;

 

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with the  beautifully dressed and jewelled .....   and cocained    'movie stars'    for an end of production  (it's a )  ' Wrap Party '

 

( Privately hired   of course . )

 

Then there was the one at Seaworld where they privately hired the place for the night ; replete with little various types of ethnic snack   bars and  exotic alcohol bars .  They even had a few rides open for us .  My boss and I  spent the night drinking water   and experienced  Schadenfreude  watching 'beautiful and classy  ' people ,  off tits ,   vomit on themselves on the roller coaster .

 

I would give it ALL   for that  brief moment  I had  in the  Polar Bear Tank basement  I had that  night !   THAT made it all worth going . 

 

( Maybe I should post some of the script somewhere   ?     )

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When  first going this thread, I wanted to respond to various things , but instead I observe the suds now coming out the washing machine tube .   So no need .

 

I did however feel an initial reaction to the stuff related to  'eccentric ism '  .   Now i will respond to  that 'stuff' .

 

1.   COME ON NOW !   You guys !    Daobums  !  ?       Ermmmm    .... 'eccentric '  .     < ahem>

 

Is anyone jealous that he did it better then them ? 

 

2.   He clearly and openly stated it .  Not only that ,   he  qualified  ' English Eccentric ' .     I applaud him , in the  tradition of

Henry Cyril Paget, the 5th Marquess of Anglesey

 

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Decades before Freddie Mercury;

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He would put on 'performances'  ( make  'old school youtubes '   :D  )  , parade around causing outrage and admiration   (maybe he is some type of Sufi   ?   :)  )   ,  and drove up and down the street in his fancy car that he had adapted to also spray perfume out the tail pipe .

 

Now, here is hint .....   people see Lord Josh cruising down the high road in his new Electrojag   BUT  it has huge exhaust pipes  sticking out the back  ????? 

 

 

Whoosh !   they get sprayed with an aroma of patchouli  "  WTF ! "  and catch a glimpse of him inside , as he moves on past, greeting them with an 'umbrella handle lift '  .

 

 to which he may aspire  ?

 

3.  And ' Big Mum'  certainly does not look like white blonde women with big tits stickin' out !

 

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See ..... she look after her kids .

 

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1 hour ago, Lord Josh Allen said:

I believe a lot of people who are just beginning to research this topic, tend to misunderstand the goals of weather magick. There are really two camps, those who see the practice as simply "controlling" the weather (summoning storms, wind, rain, etc) and those who see the deeper meanings. Every type and condition of weather corresponds to an emotion, just as there are external storms there are also internal ones that exist within the mind and body of man "As Within So Without" Practicing magick to suppress an external storm may be used as a meditation exercise to quell or overcome ones "inner demons" For example, one could work with the wind to blow away bad luck or blow away self-destructive patterns of behavior such as addictions. One could work with rain to wash away the old therefore bringing in the new (manifesting new opportunities, jobs, meeting new people, having new experiences) When working with snow, ice or frost, one of the most amazing things you can do is self-heal traumatic memories. Within my system, snow is linked to memories and the past. The practitioner should go outside and begin energetically projecting their traumatic experiences into a concentrated area of snow on the ground. 

 

One should visualize the most uncomfortable and disturbing things they have ever been through in their lives, imagining that it is being imbued into the external world. Then, the practitioner will begin the exercise to heat the snow by projecting qi into the area. Eventually, the heat will melt the snow and this represents the memories being dissolved into nothingness. I created this spell for my own benefit and I can say, for me, it does work very well. It is also worth mentioning that hail is viewed as a creation which is the result of Yin and Yang colliding together, I always that was fascinating. If a Taoist wished to “Call The Winds” he or she would make use of magical hand gestures known as “Hand Seals” There are eight different hand gestures that control the eight different directions of the wind, each seal corresponds to a trigram within the Bagua. For example, to invoke the powers of the Southeastern wind, the practitioner would attempt to re-create the trigram of "Xun" (Wind/Air) with his or her fingers. As the hand gesture is performed, an incantation should accompany it, there is more to it of course but you get a general idea. 

 

 

THIS  ^ 

 

This is what I hope to talk about here with you  and others .

 

I hope others feel the same way .    I will use the  Gendao self control method from now on and put all diversions and car admirations and  showing off  I need to blow off here ,  in a spoiler ,

 

 

Oh, actually,  not showing off , I will pepper with that ..  That seems an essential part of the  OP and thread .  :)

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1 hour ago, liminal_luke said:

 

Nah, as a Daoist buddy movie I think Lord Josh Allen and Taomeow would work better together.  Between Josh´s sartorial flair and Taomeow´s equally cinematic snappy take-no-prisoners dialogue...can you say Academy Awards nominee shoe-in?  You, Nungali, are enough of a character to star in a movie all by your lonesome.  

 

You probably should not make suggestions like that to me   :)

 

Polar bears on ecstasy ...

 

Spoiler

Polar bears on ecstasy .

SCENE  . EXT. SEAWORLD. NIGHT.

The central outdoor area of the  wrap party. Various wild party raging scenes surround .

< cut to >

SCENE  .INT. SEAWORLD - UNDERWATER POLAR-BEAR VIEWING ROOM. NIGHT.
REZA,   DR. BACON.

(Reza ; Dr Bacon’s boss )

Underwater polar bear viewing room, empty. The room is very ambient, rippled  soft ice-blue light is coming in through  the view windows from the  tank. Polar bears occasionally dive in and swim past silently.

SFX – a soundtrack is playing of ocean swishing noises, very faint ambient music and bubbles.

Dr. Bacon enters cautiously, looks around and sighs relief.

DR. BACON
“Ahhh … empty.”

He takes a seat and sits there chilling out, looking in to the tank.

Reza’s head comes around the corner, he looks in and then enters quietly.

REZA
“There you are Bacon, this looks nice and quiet.”

Dr. Bacon moves along the bench to make room for Reza.

DR. BACON
    “Yeah … chill man.”

Reza takes a seat and relaxes, watching the polar bears.

<cut to >

SCENE  . EXT. SEAWORLD. NIGHT.

The centre outdoor area of the  wrap party. Various wild party raging scenes. Noise, chaos , out of it people , music,  dancing , etc .
<cut to >


SCENE  .INT. SEAWORLD - UNDERWATER POLAR-BEAR VIEWING ROOM. NIGHT.
REZA, DR. BACON.

As previous both relaxing and looking at polar bears.

REZA
    “Hey Bacon … you want some liquid ekkie   drink ?”

Dr. Bacon’s eyebrows raise.

<cut to >


SCENE  . EXT. SEAWORLD. NIGHT.

The centre outdoor area of the party. Various wild party raging scenes.

<cut to >


SCENE  .INT. SEAWORLD - UNDERWATER POLAR-BEAR VIEWING ROOM. NIGHT.
REZA, DR. BACON, JULIET.

As previous both relaxing and looking at polar bears.

Juliet enters.

JULIET
    “Oh Reza … Hi guys … you have a nice little atmosphere here.”

REZA
    “Juliet! Welcome to the sub-artic.”

Juliet sits down and enjoys the ambience.

A pause…

Juliet shivers.

JULIET
“Brrr … I’m getting a little cold down here in this skimpy dress. I might go up for a drink.”

She stands and looks at Reza    

    “Wanna come with me?”

REZA
    “Allright, I could use a drink too.”

Reza rises and walks next to Juliet, she moves close and links her arm through his. They turn the corner to go out and Reza looks at Dr. Bacon and raises his eyebrows twice. They leave.

Dr. Bacon has a chuckle and goes up to the glass of the tank. He is very out of it and is looking in at the water, up through the surface, holding his fingers apart against the glass and feeling it, etc.

A polar bear dives in suddenly , right in front of the window  and startles Dr Bacon  . he stands there looking at it . The polar bear hangs there and stars back . Dr Bacon puts his face  up  close to the glass - so does the bear .

DR BACON ;   “ Hmmmmmm   ..... “ .

He steps back and holds one arm out , so does the bear . he lifts his leg ... so does the bear .    He cocks his head sideways ,

“ What’s going on here ? “

The bear cocks his head sideways .  Dr bacon steps back and the bear surfaces and climbs out , out of view .

‘Cousin Jim’ enters.

COUSIN JIM
    “Ah Dr. Bacon .”

He comes up to the glass and looks in the tank. A bear dives in .

    “Cool aren’t they? I was in here before for ages.”

DR BACON ; “ Yeah , but something strange is going on, watch this , “

Dr Bacon stands in front of the window  and  sticks his  arm out , the bear ..... nothing .   He tries his leg .  Nothing .  The bear swims away .

 COUSIN JIM ;  “  .... and  ? “

DR BACON ; “ He was copying me before ....   “

( he tries to peer up  through the window )
“ Maybe it was a different one ? “

Cousin Jim  looks at Dr. Bacon

    “You’re totally off your face!”

DR. BACON
    “ Everyone is ! ”

Dr. Bacon looks up inside the tank and around the room, stretches . He walks around a bit with Cousin Jim watching  him amused. He sits back on the bench.

DR BACON
“You know … there’s something about the combination of polar bears, underwater and ekkie that makes a great vibe … it’s like I can even hear the ocean and some type of soft cosmic music in the background. The ‘music of the Cosmic Ocean ! ”

COUSIN JIM
    “ That’s a tape playing through the ceiling speakers.”


DR. BACON
    “Oh.”

 

COUSIN JIM

    " You gonna come out and have a drink , or some coke ... maybe find a woman for later ?"

 

DR . BACON

   " No thanks . Think I'll stay in here  with the bears . "

 

 

................................

 

'smootchie ' !

 

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For example, one could work with the wind to blow away bad luck or blow away self-destructive patterns of behavior such as addictions.

 

Or confusion.. :)

 

 

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One could work with rain to wash away the old therefore bringing in the new (manifesting new opportunities, jobs, meeting new people, having new experiences)

 

 

 

I think we'll get along just fine.. 

 

Glad you're here.

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When I was looking for teachers years back, I was introduced to a Daoist ‘master’ in Hong Kong who tried to sell me an empowerment for $40K (and I had to officially become his ‘disciple’... apparently a great marketing campaign to have a capable western student).
 

He did produce a thunderstorm on a clear sunny day - within about 10 minutes of quietly reciting some mantra and holding a mudra while talking with me outside.

 

I refused. Politely 😅


Later discovered that he’s been fucking every western girl who showed interest in his tricks.

 

No idea where he is now - but I heard a rumour that he was killed because he repeatedly ‘stole rain’ from one village and sold it to another in the mainland.

 

No fancy hats like you though Josh!

 

He did have a beard and a topknot... apparently it’s obligatory if you want to fuck impressionable western girls.

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2 hours ago, freeform said:

 

He did produce a thunderstorm on a clear sunny day - within about 10 minutes of quietly reciting some mantra and holding a mudra while talking with me outside.

 

A very long time ago, I was living in a city. A storm came through which was wreaking some havoc, and I was mumbling to myself about not even being able to see the lightning through the windows. I was standing near a window watching the driving rain, and then the world went electric and white as lightning struck right outside the window.

 

I said, "thank you," and ceased my complaints. 

 

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25 minutes ago, ilumairen said:

I was standing near a window watching the driving rain, and then the world went electric and white as lightning struck right outside the window.

 

I said, "thank you," and ceased my complaints. 


:lol:

 

Lightning strikes in close proximity are pretty shocking aren’t they!

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I used to fly back stateside and to Southeast Asia every year in high school and college, and as it was either summer break or Christmas, there was a bizarre coincidence that thunderstorms would come on the days that I arrived and left.

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3 hours ago, freeform said:

 

No idea where he is now - but I heard a rumour that he was killed because he repeatedly ‘stole rain’ from one village and sold it to another in the mainland.

 

 

Now imagine how much power the black magicians who rule the world have over stuff like that.  Among my acquaintances of long ago, Ph.D. degrees were earned for weather control work at the Institute of Applied Geophysics, and shuffling weather from here to there, including stealing or granting rains, was their daily bread and butter.  I remember funky stories of botched magic -- e.g. when they experimented with seeding the clouds with silver nitrate and, to their surprise, instead of rain produced icicle-shaped hail, hundreds of thousands of icicles the size and shape of daggers falling from the sky -- and that was thirty years ago.  What and how got messed up since then, and whether it was done on purpose or with wrongful disregard for the far-reaching consequences or accidentally, is anyone's guess.  

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On 2/12/2020 at 10:41 PM, Earl Grey said:

While I still don't find Josh terribly impressive with what he claims, he's so far polite albeit flamboyant, and at least not pompous.

 

Let me give you the rundown, son: we've had a huge transition the past couple years. We have dealt with a lot of scammers and people calling themselves masters who don't know what they're talking about, self-initiates who want to make up their own qigong who have zero understanding of TCM. 

 

We had forum members scammed out of thousands of dollars, we had the Western Mo Pai bros claiming to be part of the Mo Pai lineage because of two techniques they learned from a student who was kicked out of the school, we have Jeff who started out offering to scan people for free then pulling them into astral sex cults, and then we had the Alt-Right here posting conspiracy theories about pedophiles in a pizza parlor who were unfortunately also the admin and members of Jeff's cult before Sean, the owner, kicked them all out, so we are in a state of anarchy and catharsis as a lot of repression was here amongst the scams, except for the scams that the admin allowed. 

 

So if we're already in full cynic mode, please understand that this is why. And many of us are also pretty blunt about it because we are burned out by the people claiming to have the rainbow body, siddhis, and the self-initiates, the man-children trying to be Goku, and brats who want psychic techniques like Lightseeker who want to control and seduce others with free techniques while asking others to do the investigation for him. 

 

There is only one Mo Pai.

 

Levels 1 2a and 2b are the same in the USA and Indonesia.

 

These methods are recorded from John on video.

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