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1 hour ago, ralis said:

Is this you?

 

 

Glad someone posted this in here... I was late to the party but was about to put him, but it seems you beat me to it. He has posted this shit in a quanzhen group on Facebook as well. I can’t tell if he is just taking trolling to a whole new level or ...

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Just now, Earl Grey said:

 

Eh, at least he isn't charging and scamming the way Elijah Wilson and Mak Jo Si did, insulting others who give feedback like BoorBores, or offering astral hugs and then going to astral sex like Jeff.

 

Still not impressed as I don't see any internal power, but he seems fairly innocuous... so far, at least. 

 

EDIT: although showing off wealth is probably in poor taste. 

Well, you won't see the power if it's all within will you? Showing off is NOT poor taste! Nothing poor about it. I don't scam, I don't have anything to sell, no books, no overpriced talismans, no online lessons, I don't care what the little people do, let them make their money. I don't know if Mak would get along with me or not.  

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1 hour ago, manitou said:

I don't know if this qualifies or not.

 

A couple years ago, one of the Bums who lived in Australia, made a appeal to anyone who considered themselves a weather shaman to do what they could for his little town in Australia (toward the northeast, if I remember).  A category 5 tornado was heading straight toward the small town and it was to hit within hours.

 

I know many of us were concerned.  I don't know what methods other Bums used, but I pulled out an atlas and put a drinking glass face down over his town in Australia, symbolizing a high pressure zone, and did a little ceremony to put the high pressure in place so the tornado would avoid it.  I know others did their methods too.  After the danger had passed, he posted that the tornado took a little eastward jog just north of his little town and then headed south again.  Bypassed them like a little 90 degree angle.

 

He merely said something like "Well, the tornado just took a little jog" and sort of minimized the whole thing.  I said that I hoped that weather shamans get paid up front.

 

My grandma did some shocking things when I was a young boy using pieces of silver and a very large and beautiful quartz crystal.

About 2 years ago, a very large hurricane was headed directly for my family in Florida, it was a Category 4 or 5.

I followed grandma's formula, used her crystal and some of her very old pieces of silver.

Just before impacting my family's city, the storm turned sharp right, headed north for a hundred miles or so, then headed back along its initial course, sparing them entirely. I have no idea (and quite a healthy bit of doubt) whether my actions had any effect but it was sure amazing for all of us to watch it happen.

 

I know nothing about magicks, even less about weather magick, but I'd like to offer a fond welcome to you Josh.

Your practices and demeanor are at the opposite end of the spectrum from mine but one of the things I value most about this forum is the wide variety of personalities. Particularly when they are respectful of others. While I'm not sure I have too much interest in magick or weather personally, I suspect there are some here who will be quite interested. Nice to see you're not too put off by the welcoming committee.

 

There are some fragile egos here who seem to feel that intolerance, insults, and haughty attitude are indications of superiority.

Or maybe they're just run of the mill bullies. Generally there is a deep insecurity at the root of such behavior, in my experience. 

Sadly, they tend to shout down many of the more thoughtful and truly advanced practitioners. 

 

I can't say that I'm a car guy but I did buy a Tesla Model 3 last year and I've never been so happy with a car.

It's outstanding! If you've not had an opportunity, take one for a spin.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Just now, Lord Josh Allen said:

Well, you won't see the power if it's all within will you? Showing off is NOT poor taste! Nothing poor about it. I don't scam, I don't have anything to sell, no books, no overpriced talismans, no online lessons, I don't care what the little people do, let them make their money. I don't know if Mak would get along with me or not.  

 

If you want to have a serious conversation about the measures for power Taoists actually have, don't get too defensive or certain of yourself. 

 

So far, we don't see that. What we do see is that you have a particular view of Taoism and interpretation of TTC and Zhuangzi don't seem to preach themselves. 

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1 minute ago, Earl Grey said:

or offering astral hugs and then going to astral sex like Jeff.

 

Oh yeah, I totally forgot about that!

 

2 minutes ago, Lord Josh Allen said:

You can't disappoint me, I'm always disappointed in you conformists. Mak Tin Si hasn't got a Jaguar, a fur coat or a throne, sorry honey I've won again. P.S. My Jaguar has massaging seats. We haven't even touched on the Lexus yet! 

 

You should catch up on what Earl Grey just mentioned. Don't nobody care about your handmedown cars and TaoBao furniture, trustafarian. We're on some next level shit here. Let me ask you: do you have big juicy blond astral titties? Cause you're going to need to have at least three of them on some Total Recall shit to raise any eyebrows here. Since you're into automobiles, perhaps you can candy paint your imaginary astral nipples before you visit anybody in the night, that'll get you some attention. Why, you'll have a cult all your own in no time! 

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4 minutes ago, steve said:

 

My grandma did some shocking things when I was a young boy using pieces of silver and a very large and beautiful quartz crystal.

About 2 years ago, a very large hurricane was headed directly for my family in Florida, it was a Category 4 or 5.

I followed grandma's formula, used her crystal and some of her very old pieces of silver.

Just before impacting my family's city, the storm turned sharp right, headed north for a hundred miles or so, then headed back along its initial course, sparing them entirely. I have no idea (and quite a healthy bit of doubt) whether my actions had any effect but it was sure amazing for all of us to watch it happen.

 

I know nothing about magicks, even less about weather magick, but I'd like to offer a fond welcome to you Josh.

Your practices and demeanor are at the opposite end of the spectrum from mine but one of the things I value most about this forum is the wide variety of personalities. Particularly when they are respectful of others. While I'm not sure I have too much interest in magick or weather personally, I suspect there are some here who will be quite interested. Nice to see you're not too put off by the welcoming committee.

 

There are some fragile egos here who seem to feel that intolerance, insults, and haughty attitude are indications of superiority.

Or maybe they're just run of the mill bullies. Generally there is a deep insecurity at the root of such behavior, in my experience. 

Sadly, they tend to shout down many of the more thoughtful and truly advanced practitioners. 

 

I can't say that I'm a car guy but I did buy a Tesla Model 3 last year and I've never been so happy with a car.

It's outstanding! If you've not had an opportunity, take one for a spin.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Whatever power he has which I rather doubt he has should stand on it's own without all the ostentatious BS. The clown shows that show up here are rather boring!

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Just now, Earl Grey said:

 

If you want to have a serious conversation about the measures for power Taoists actually have, don't get too defensive or certain of yourself. 

 

So far, we don't see that. What we do see is that you have a particular view of Taoism and interpretation of TTC and Zhuangzi don't seem to preach themselves. 

 

2 minutes ago, steve said:

 

My grandma did some shocking things when I was a young boy using pieces of silver and a very large and beautiful quartz crystal.

About 2 years ago, a very large hurricane was headed directly for my family in Florida, it was a Category 4 or 5.

I followed grandma's formula, used her crystal and some of her very old pieces of silver.

Just before impacting my family's city, the storm turned sharp right, headed north for a hundred miles or so, then headed back along its initial course, sparing them entirely. I have no idea (and quite a healthy bit of doubt) whether my actions had any effect but it was sure amazing for all of us to watch it happen.

 

I know nothing about magicks, even less about weather magick, but I'd like to offer a fond welcome to you Josh.

Your practices and demeanor are at the opposite end of the spectrum from mine but one of the things I value most about this forum is the wide variety of personalities. Particularly when they are respectful of others. While I'm not sure I have too much interest in magick or weather personally, I suspect there are some here who will be quite interested. Nice to see you're not too put off by the welcoming committee.

 

There are some fragile egos here who seem to feel that intolerance, insults, and haughty attitude are indications of superiority.

Or maybe they're just run of the mill bullies. Generally there is a deep insecurity at the root of such behavior, in my experience. 

Sadly, they tend to shout down many of the more thoughtful and truly advanced practitioners. 

 

I can't say that I'm a car guy but I did buy a Tesla Model 3 last year and I've never been so happy with a car.

It's outstanding! If you've not had an opportunity, take one for a spin.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hi there buddy! Thanks! Wow, what a story you have. Great to meet you. One thing you should know about me, I don't take myself seriously at all, I make fun of myself more than anyone can. I'm really not at all bothered by what people say, I get flack online, offline, you name it but I'm unapologetically me. I've walked down the street and been physically attacked for the way I dress, I've experienced everything. Not everyone will resonate with it but that's not my goal, I'm here to meet people who may have similar interests and I'm here to learn from people who are polar opposites to me. Awesome Tesla by the way! I've heard great things about them. I've never had an electric car, Jags going to release an electric XJ soon. I'll be ordering it! 

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Just now, ralis said:

 

Whatever power he has which I rather doubt he has should stand on it's own without all the ostentatious BS. The clown shows that show up here are rather boring!

 

So are the insults and dick measuring.

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2 minutes ago, steve said:

So are the insults and dick measuring.

 

 

Uh-huh. And bragging about how many fancy cars one's rich family owns and having a private driver is not at all like online forum penii measuring :rolleyes:

 

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While I still don't find Josh terribly impressive with what he claims, he's so far polite albeit flamboyant, and at least not pompous.

 

Let me give you the rundown, son: we've had a huge transition the past couple years. We have dealt with a lot of scammers and people calling themselves masters who don't know what they're talking about, self-initiates who want to make up their own qigong who have zero understanding of TCM. 

 

We had forum members scammed out of thousands of dollars, we had the Western Mo Pai bros claiming to be part of the Mo Pai lineage because of two techniques they learned from a student who was kicked out of the school, we have Jeff who started out offering to scan people for free then pulling them into astral sex cults, and then we had the Alt-Right here posting conspiracy theories about pedophiles in a pizza parlor who were unfortunately also the admin and members of Jeff's cult before Sean, the owner, kicked them all out, so we are in a state of anarchy and catharsis as a lot of repression was here amongst the scams, except for the scams that the admin allowed. 

 

So if we're already in full cynic mode, please understand that this is why. And many of us are also pretty blunt about it because we are burned out by the people claiming to have the rainbow body, siddhis, and the self-initiates, the man-children trying to be Goku, and brats who want psychic techniques like Lightseeker who want to control and seduce others with free techniques while asking others to do the investigation for him. 

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9 minutes ago, Earl Grey said:

 

If you want to have a serious conversation about the measures for power Taoists actually have, don't get too defensive or certain of yourself. 

 

So far, we don't see that. What we do see is that you have a particular view of Taoism and interpretation of TTC and Zhuangzi don't seem to preach themselves. 

I totally get what you mean. Well, I have heard a lot about you, mostly good things. Do you teach? I'm open to listening and learning. That's why I'm here. 

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5 minutes ago, Walker said:

 

 

Uh-huh. And bragging about how many fancy cars one's rich family owns and having a private driver is not at all like online forum penii measuring :rolleyes:

 

 

I didn’t take it that way.

Cars, fancy clothes, and money don’t impress me.

I get the sense that he’d be the first to offer me a ride and a drink and want to share his passion and good fortune.

I could be wrong but I choose to give him the benefit of the doubt.

 

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9 minutes ago, Earl Grey said:

While I still don't find Josh terribly impressive with what he claims, he's so far polite albeit flamboyant, and at least not pompous.

 

Let me give you the rundown, son: we've had a huge transition the past couple years. We have dealt with a lot of scammers and people calling themselves masters who don't know what they're talking about, self-initiates who want to make up their own qigong who have zero understanding of TCM. 

 

We had forum members scammed out of thousands of dollars, we had the Western Mo Pai bros claiming to be part of the Mo Pai lineage because of two techniques they learned from a student who was kicked out of the school, we have Jeff who started out offering to scan people for free then pulling them into astral sex cults, and then we had the Alt-Right here posting conspiracy theories about pedophiles in a pizza parlor who were unfortunately also the admin and members of Jeff's cult before Sean, the owner, kicked them all out, so we are in a state of anarchy and catharsis as a lot of repression was here amongst the scams, except for the scams that the admin allowed. 

 

So if we're already in full cynic mode, please understand that this is why. And many of us are also pretty blunt about it because we are burned out by the people claiming to have the rainbow body, siddhis, and the self-initiates, the man-children trying to be Goku, and brats who want psychic techniques like Lightseeker who want to control and seduce others with free techniques while asking others to do the investigation for him. 

 

I get your point, Dad.

I’ve been here for 13 years and seen a few shake ups and changes.

I think some of us take ourselves and this place a bit too seriously.

I haven’t seen any evidence that Josh is a scammer.

I am also quite aware that the forum is ripe for scammers and I am generally on my guard... I’m not buying or selling anything here, only occasionally giving things away for fun.

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1 minute ago, Lord Josh Allen said:

I totally get what you mean. Well, I have heard a lot about you, mostly good things. Do you teach? I'm open to listening and learning. That's why I'm here. 

 

Sure thing, pal. I apologize for the ribbing earlier--didn't expect you to join the forum, but you're showing you're fairly open, so we can discuss some stuff. 

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I don¬īt own a car.¬† Nor any clothing that would be at home in Lord Josh Allen¬īs closet.¬† Now about weather magic: Whether the OP has skill in the area or not who knows, but I¬īm pretty sure somebody does.¬† We¬īve talked lately about levitation, we¬īve talked about chakra scanning, we¬īve talked about the dubious benefits of sitting in full lotus at McDonalds.¬† All this conversation has me feeling a little hot, and¬†I¬īd welcome¬†a good storm or two.¬† What could a little conversation about rain making hurt?¬†¬†

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2 minutes ago, Earl Grey said:

 

Sure thing, pal. I apologize for the ribbing earlier--didn't expect you to join the forum, but you're showing you're fairly open, so we can discuss some stuff. 

No need to apologize, everything is cool with me! I've been meaning to join this forum for quite a long time, just haven't got around to it. How long have you been into Taoism? 

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5 minutes ago, Lord Josh Allen said:

I totally get what you mean. Well, I have heard a lot about you, mostly good things. Do you teach? I'm open to listening and learning. That's why I'm here. 

 

I doubt you will learn much here given that the real stuff is hard won and generally transmitted by a teacher! In general, I will give few hints in my posts which most here miss, don't understand, or ignore! Furthermore, playing with the elements is fraught with dangers and is not kindergarten play which most seem to believe.

 

The Lama shaman I posted earlier was a powerful shaman and was at times scary to be around! A very good friend of mine spent a lot of time with him while he was dying and shared with me how scary he was. As powerful as he was cancer took him down!

 

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5 minutes ago, ralis said:

 

I doubt you will learn much here given that the real stuff is hard won and generally transmitted by a teacher! In general, I will give few hints in my posts which most here miss, don't understand, or ignore! Furthermore, playing with the elements is fraught with dangers and is not kindergarten play which most seem to believe.

 

The Lama shaman I posted earlier was a powerful shaman and was at times scary to be around! A very good friend of mine spent a lot of time with him while he was dying and shared with me how scary he was. As powerful as he was cancer took him down!

 

I see. Illness does not discriminate. I take it you are also a teacher? I'm a big fan of Professor Johnson's books, I have most of the collection aside from a couple that doesn't really interest me. I am aware of the danger and the risk. Taoist Occultism has always fascinated me, would I be right in saying you would recommend that I find a teacher? 

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4 minutes ago, Lord Josh Allen said:

I see. Illness does not discriminate. I take it you are also a teacher? I'm a big fan of Professor Johnson's books, I have most of the collection aside from a couple that doesn't really interest me. I am aware of the danger and the risk. Taoist Occultism has always fascinated me, would I be right in saying you would recommend that I find a teacher? 

 

I am not a teacher! You may be aware of the risks, but when you get burned that is the first lesson. I have been severely burned, but with perseverance and a strong will I recovered.

 

If you have no particular path I would recommend finding a teacher. If you are sincere there are a few here that may be able to make recommendations. It doesn't hurt to ask.

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44 minutes ago, steve said:

 

I get your point, Dad.

I’ve been here for 13 years and seen a few shake ups and changes.

I think some of us take ourselves and this place a bit too seriously.

I haven’t seen any evidence that Josh is a scammer.

I am also quite aware that the forum is ripe for scammers and I am generally on my guard... I’m not buying or selling anything here, only occasionally giving things away for fun.

 

Serious question, though...

 

Am I right in thinking you're a disciple in a lineage in Tibetan Buddhism?

 

Since I saw you welcoming ChiDragon back, I could not help but wonder whether you would not have a somewhat (or significantly) more cautious attitude if people like him and "Lord" Josh were showing up here as self-declared masters of Dzogchen and Mahamudra, complete with (like with ChiDragon) a curriculum based on Baidu searches or (like with Josh Allen) a ngakpa's robes or a Karmapa's Black Crown, bought off of Amazon or TaoBao.

 

Tibetan Buddhism takes transmission, empowerment, and lineage extremely seriously. So does Daoism. Would you be cool with it if a self-[taught/deluded] Lord Jane Doe came here with videos waving a sci-fi sword at the sky claiming to be a "Tibetan Buddhist" who is versed the cycle of teachings Ngakpa Yeshe Dorje apparently was? 

 

(Btw, ummmmm, bragging about having cars, private drivers, and thrones (lol) is definitely bragging. That's cool, though, players gonna play, haters gonna hate. I appreciate that Josh has a sense of good humor along with his braggadocio and passion for sartorial pomp.)

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1 hour ago, Lord Josh Allen said:

No need to apologize, everything is cool with me! I've been meaning to join this forum for quite a long time, just haven't got around to it. How long have you been into Taoism? 

 

Been practicing for ten years now. Have a few lineages to represent, and also do Vedic, Atlantean, Shinto, and Akashic stuff. 

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2 hours ago, steve said:

 

I didn’t take it that way.

Cars, fancy clothes, and money don’t impress me.

I get the sense that he’d be the first to offer me a ride and a drink and want to share his passion and good fortune.

I could be wrong but I choose to give him the benefit of the doubt.

 

 

I kinda like flamboyant.. hiya @Lord Josh Allen

 

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7 minutes ago, ilumairen said:

 

I kinda like flamboyant.. hiya @Lord Josh Allen

 

 

Flamboyant is a hell of a lot better than the façade of being a kind and wise teacher who just wants to give free hugs...but that Jeff thread is already done and Josh seems fun so far, given that he's handled the unofficial hazing pretty well. 

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2 hours ago, Lord Josh Allen said:

Well, you won't see the power if it's all within will you? Showing off is NOT poor taste! Nothing poor about it. I don't scam, I don't have anything to sell, no books, no overpriced talismans, no online lessons, I don't care what the little people do, let them make their money. I don't know if Mak would get along with me or not.  

 

Well, if you are not going to do  any of that stuff above, or intrude inappropriately on others' threads, we can always do with some lighter hearted stuff here. 

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