Trump talk

[joeblast]

On 6/30/2019 at 11:51 AM, C T said:

 

You cant be faulted for not paying attention to whats going on when Trump himself seems to share that state of concentration deficit frequently lol 

One thing I've forgotten to mention when I keep bringing up Benghazi as the start for this - its been mentioned before but it deserves reiterating - it was because taliban/aq shot a missile into a US heli in Afghanistan, but the thing didnt explode.  It was US made.  And it had serial numbers on it.  So of course they traced where the missile came from, and it was from a sale/transfer to the UAE (a lot of big time illicit money goes through uae) covertly done by the cia, initially rejected by congress/doj, but then of course it was signed off on by one very big name which auth'd the transfer to go through...

 

We all know that name, right?  Hillaaaaaaarrryyyyyyyyyyyy Rooododdddddham Cliiiiiiiinnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnton (who just so happens to also have 7,8,...9 figure sums involved in uae matters too...)

 

Which was why Ambassador Stevens was in Benghazi, trying to reclaim weapons that Hillary helped the CIA shuffle there to take out Khaddafi.  (Threatening the creation of a gold african dinar was caused the banksters to order they bayoneting of his poor ass.)   Stevens was sent there to die so that the whole thing could be buttoned up with a bow and a shrug at the bureaucratic level.  But Glen & Tyrone f'd their whole plan up and quite literally probably saved the world.

 

 

Its just incredible that this story isnt very well known, but we all know why, because it really doesnt make the traitor network look very good, when they're "supposed to be on our side."

 

I think once you can see the levels of evil that are actually in play here, you'll come around. 

Edited July 1, 2019 by joeblast

[Stosh]

15 hours ago, silent thunder said:

ah, I see.  i was speaking conceptually, you are speaking directly, locally and personally.  I have not read the prior thread, but only felt a pull to respond philosophically to this one statement on the feed page.  Please disregard my comment in any other context.  I mean only that in any massing of wealth, inevitably is the process of loss and theft.  So the amasser is complicit in the theft, though not guilty of it.

 

Stop short of the brim.
Oversharpenned blades soon blunt.
Better to stop short.

 

Claim wealth and titles,
Disaster surely lives there.
This is nature's way.

 

Amass stores of gold
and no one can protect it.
Retire when work's done!

 

 

 

Oh , I thought you were talking about a different symmetry. 

 

3 Lin 

Do not glorify the achievers
So the people will not squabble
Do not treasure goods that are hard to obtain
So the people will not become thieves
Do not show the desired things
So their hearts will not be confused
Thus the governance of the sage:
Empties their hearts
Fills their bellies
Weakens their ambitions
Strengthens their bones
Let the people have no cunning and no greed
So those who scheme will not dare to meddle
Act without contrivance
And nothing will be beyond control

 

That there is a connection between the participants, should indeed be considered, but If I may , I suggest that the Way of humans is not really the natural way, we assign blame, assign responsibility , and deem virtue..( or the lack of it.)

If the dichotomy is -responsibility vs thievery- (neither of which exist in the world of.. cats, by the way ) then we might consider virtue to be doing neither , (being neither irresponsible nor being a thief ), Then also there is the reverse which might be virtue , which is to DO take from the rich and give to the poor. 

 

Where I am going with this , is that , while the way of people is not the way of Tao , it still may be worthwhile to consider what Lao has to suggest on this because the reciprocity is inherent to such interactions , and it may offer a basis by which to excuse the transgressions of the virtues we invent. 

 

Acting without contrivance as Lin translates it, falls neatly into - avoiding the idea of the Tao of human "virtue" and judgement -, doing that , we are responsible for what befalls us. ......But we keep the idea of virtue fairness responsibility and such , and in so doing , we are no longer the determiner of virtue. 

Virtue then is determined by the group. 

Edited July 1, 2019 by Stosh

[silent thunder]

Indeed!  What i shared is my haiku interpretation of verse 3.

One reality, many lenses it seems.

 

I find the analogy of a crystal often rises for me in regards to how humans perceive absolute reality.  Reality seems a unity, but a unity with many facets, like the facets of a crystal.  As many facets as localized awarenesses.

 

Each facet reflects the whole, but through a portioned lense of localized awareness.

[Dynasty]

More research needs to be done on mind viruses. Why are some people immune and others are not?

 

 

[Stosh]

1 hour ago, Dynasty said:

More research needs to be done on mind viruses. Why are some people immune and others are not?

 

 

No one is actually immune, some just have a more prepared immune system , or are not situated in an echo chamber with everybody coughing in their face

[Dynasty]

I mean what if there is an actual physical virus, or bacteria that makes people susceptible to what we call liberalism today?

 

Just as the rat loses his self preservation instinct, permanently, from the toxoplasma, and runs into a hungry cat's mouth, a human liberal will ignore the history of gulags, forced labor, genocide, mass murder, squalor like living conditions, bread-lines, etc and will still embrace the liberal ideology even with evidence right in front of him that it's a trap and brush it aside by saying, "That wasn't real socialism/communism".

 

It's often been said that liberalism is a mental disease. Maybe there is pathogenic component to it? 

 

 

[Stosh]

3 minutes ago, Dynasty said:

I mean what if there is an actual physical virus, or bacteria that makes people susceptible to what we call liberalism today?

 

Just as the rat loses his self preservation instinct, permanently, from the toxoplasma, and runs into a hungry cat's mouth, a human liberal will ignore the history of gulags, forced labor, genocide, mass murder, squalor like living conditions, bread-lines, etc and will still embrace the liberal ideology even with evidence right in front of him that it's a trap and brush it aside by saying, "That wasn't real socialism/communism".

 

It's often been said that liberalism is a mental disease. Maybe there is pathogenic component to it? 

 

 

That's exactly what I was referring to    

[Dynasty]

Okay. I thought maybe you were only referring to just a pattern of thought in the brain.

 

If this is a real virus there must be some evolutionary reason for it to exist in the big picture scale of things.

 

 

[Stosh]

Just now, Dynasty said:

Okay. I thought maybe you were only referring to just a pattern of thought in the brain.

 

If this is a real virus there must be some evolutionary reason for it to exist in the big picture scale of things.

 

 

Its called rabies , when bats have it, and liberalism when people do  

[Dynasty]

I hope we can find a cure.

[Stosh]

1 minute ago, Dynasty said:

I hope we can find a cure.

Me too , I think an extra , third term , for Trump would make up for the one they tried to trash , and break the cycle of infection by allowing the carriers to succumb. 

[Lost in Translation]

19 minutes ago, Dynasty said:

I hope we can find a cure.

 

Toxoplasma gondii wants to get into a cat's gut because that is where it completes its life cycle. The poor rat is just a patsy in the parasites plan. So what would want to tear down wealth, bring about starvation, tyranny, and ultimately destroy the freedoms of the western world? Answer that and you'll know what has infected the Leftist mind. As for the Liberals? They're quislings. They think the Left is the same as them, but they are wrong. Hopefully they will learn the truth and fight against the Left before it's too late. Think it can't happen here? To that I say: Russia, China, Cuba, Vietnam, North Korea, and Venezuela. I'll add California, just for good measure.

Edited July 1, 2019 by Lost in Translation

[Lost in Translation]

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Perhaps the magnitude of Hillary's 2016 loss is only now becoming apparent. Clinton didn't just lose the White House, she also lost the Democratic center to the radical ornaments.  The diminution of Brooks, Stevens, Kristof, and even Biden are the consequence of that defeat. The radicals who once served the useful purpose of putting fear into the other side are taking center stage.  It's not surprising that the French Terror began with the purge of the moderates and the urgency of virtue. As Robespierre put it, virtuous men have no choice but to employ any means necessary:

 

If the basis of popular government in peacetime is virtue, the basis of popular government during a revolution is both virtue and terror; virtue, without which terror is baneful; terror, without which virtue is powerless. Terror is nothing more than speedy, severe and inflexible justice; it is thus an emanation of virtue; it is less a principle in itself, than a consequence of the general principle of democracy, applied to the most pressing needs of the patrie.

 

The Thing is older than one would think. And more voracious.  The intellectual Old Bolsheviks thought their illustrious records would protect them from the ruffian Stalin. Bukharin, who was eventually executed by Stalin, once said: "Koba, you used to be grateful for the support of your Bolshevik comrades." "Gratitude is a dog's disease," Stalin shot back.

 

https://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/andy-ngo/

 

[Stosh]

2 hours ago, Lost in Translation said:

 

Toxoplasma gondii wants to get into a cat's gut because that is where it completes its life cycle. The poor rat is just a patsy in the parasites plan. So what would want to tear down wealth, bring about starvation, tyranny, and ultimately destroy the freedoms of the western world? Answer that and you'll know what has infected the Leftist mind. As for the Liberals? They're quislings. They think the Left is the same as them, but they are wrong. Hopefully they will learn the truth and fight against the Left before it's too late. Think it can't happen here? To that I say: Russia, China, Cuba, Vietnam, North Korea, and Venezuela. I'll add California, just for good measure.

 

Yep, it's outta control, but rather than suggest fighting, I want justice to be asserted..

But ! ,, I'm getting old , don't need much,and I am getting tired of worrying about the fate of the folks who refuse to wake up. 

 

I'll pay attention for the entertainment value, and vote Republican right down the ballot this time, but , being concerned about the self inflicted problems has no point.

 

 

Edited July 2, 2019 by Stosh

[Stosh]

There we go again, Gowdy indicates we should expect to find out what happened and 'move on' .

No justice no accountability , these investigations are a sham.  But he says the media should 'hold people accountable' .

They keep verbalizing that we should expect ... Nada ! 

[Dynasty]

3 hours ago, Lost in Translation said:

Toxoplasma gondii wants to get into a cat's gut because that is where it completes its life cycle. The poor rat is just a patsy in the parasites plan. So what would want to tear down wealth, bring about starvation, tyranny, and ultimately destroy the freedoms of the western world? Answer that and you'll know what has infected the Leftist mind.

 

The toxoplasma has an intelligence then. 

 

And the lefty is also just a patsy.

 

IMO the answer to what would want to create destruction of the western world is an entity from another realm. 

[Lost in Translation]

1 hour ago, Dynasty said:

The toxoplasma has an intelligence then. 

 

It would seem so. This intelligence, however, is non-human, and unlike anything we can comprehend. Let that sink in for a moment.

 

1 hour ago, Dynasty said:

IMO the answer to what would want to create destruction of the western world is an entity from another realm. 

 

That is possible. Perhaps it is the work of Satan, or demons, or any miscellaneous chaos entities. Perhaps it's Tiamat. Who knows. Either way, it's a non-human intelligence and also unlike anything we can comprehend.

 

How's that for an ego-burst? Your thoughts are not your own. An otherworldly entity has infected your mind and made you willingly engage in actions that will lead to your own destruction. It's Killgrave, Birdbox, The Matrix, and Dalek genetic manipulation all rolled into one. And you think you're free? That's funny... 

[Stosh]

Oh, I think I can comprehend.  

[joeblast]

11 hours ago, Dynasty said:

IMO the answer to what would want to create destruction of the western world is an entity from another realm. 

or a group of entities that have swindled the world over the last 400 years and know their positions are illegitimate, which is why they must be protected at any cost

which is why TDS exists

 

 

 

 

Edited July 2, 2019 by joeblast

[joeblast]

9 priors and he walked away scot free every single time

 

Antifa is a domestic terror organization

 

and they are threatening acid attacks for the 4th

Edited July 2, 2019 by joeblast

[Lost in Translation]

1 hour ago, joeblast said:

Antifa is a domestic terror organization

 

14 hours ago, Lost in Translation said:

If the basis of popular government in peacetime is virtue, the basis of popular government during a revolution is both virtue and terror; virtue, without which terror is baneful; terror, without which virtue is powerless. Terror is nothing more than speedy, severe and inflexible justice; it is thus an emanation of virtue; it is less a principle in itself, than a consequence of the general principle of democracy, applied to the most pressing needs of the patrie.

 

Robespierre

 

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Robespierre is best known for his role during the "reign of Terror", during which he exerted his influence to suppress the Girondins to the right, the Hébertists to the left and the Dantonists in the centre. Robespierre was eventually brought down by his obsession with the vision of an ideal republic and his indifference to the human costs of installing it.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maximilien_Robespierre

 

Sound familiar? Think history is repeating itself?

[windwalker]

"Nadler: Trump Admin Committing Child Abuse — ‘There Ought to Be Prosecutions’ of Agency Heads"

 

Said by one of the people in Congress that are the one's supposed to be making laws assigning the budget in order for those to carry out the laws.

 

They do nither, except to complain about conditions that they have brought about by their in action.

 

The heads he talks about prosecuting should be his own among others.

 

Totally disgusting.

 

One can only hope that he among others are mentioned in the IG report and other reports soon to come.

Edited July 2, 2019 by windwalker

[joeblast]

just an arm?  lol.  keep pulling them strings!!!

 

https://time.com/5618835/world-bank-international-finance-corporation-graft-grupo-aval/

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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An interesting discussion between Representative John Ratcliffe, former congressman Trey Gowdy and Fox News Host Jason Chaffetz surrounding: the pending Inspector General Report into FISA abuse; the upcoming Mueller testimony; and the activity of U.S. Attorney John Durham.

 

Within the interview Ratcliffe notes he has recently spoken to Inspector General Horowitz about the timing of his upcoming report where Ratcliffe says the “investigative work is complete

 

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2019/07/02/representative-ratcliffe-horowitz-investigative-work-is-complete/

 

 

Comey's daughter harassing people too, cripes

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https://bigleaguepolitics.com/comeys-daughter-works-at-sdny-as-two-new-york-fbi-agents-continue-to-harass-trump-donors/

her boss

 

more on papaD & It'ly

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https://libertyunyielding.com/2019/05/22/spygate-watch-the-purge-of-italian-intel-and-obamas-odd-meet-and-greet/

 

 

https://twitter.com/g_occhionero

 

 

 

 

war dance, anyone?

 

 

VP Pence Recalled To White House For "Unknown Situation"; Airforce 2 Diverted

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-07-02/vp-pence-recalled-white-house-emergency-airforce-2-diverted

 

 

 

 

 

ooh yay, what's next? 

 

 

 

 

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https://www.wmur.com/article/pease-air-national-guard-base-on-lockdown-after-shots-heard/28263184

 

Active shooter situation at NH air base.

 

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/pences-plane-called-back-to-dc-for-unspecified-emergency

 

Pence headed to NH - diverted back to WH

 

 

 

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and DNS biggie CloudFlare goes down during all of this on top of it all?

 

 

 

 

maybe ralis can come tell me its all just a coincidence

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I dont claim to know what it all means, its just...well, I think that's what they came up with the word spoopy for, meaning odd & spooky

 

 

 

 

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wait wait wait....you're telling me 14 people died on a submersible, 7 of which were captains?  how many people do submersibles typically carry?  most of the ones you read about carry 3, maybe 5 people?  the main distinguishing difference between one and a submarine is that submarines are fully autonomous, submersibles require a host vessel. 

*chuckles* are they no longer hunting red october?

guess it was a crew of 25 on it, I saw somewhere.

 

 

 

 

 

but wait, it gets weirder!  now we have UFOs, too! 

https://abcnews.go.com/International/unidentified-flying-object-koreas-dmz-flock-birds/story?id=64061071

 

 

 

 

Edited July 2, 2019 by joeblast

[Lost in Translation]

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In 2014, not too many years ago, of the adult men crossing illegally into this country, roughly 1% had a child with them. Today, roughly 50% of the adult men crossing into the Rio Grande sector have a child with them. The reason for that, the fault of that is the US Congress because we have told the traffickers - the human traffickers, we've told the drug traffickers that if you bring a child, that child is essentially a get-out-of-jail-free card.

 

Sen. Ted Cruz

 

Full video, below.

 

Spoiler

 

 

[Lost in Translation]

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Over the weekend, Antifa activists in Portland brutally assaulted Andy Ngo, a gay Vietnamese-American editor and photojournalist. Ngo was admitted to the hospital and, as a result of his assault, suffers from a brain bleed, among other things. The attack on Ngo, in an American city, in broad daylight, from a group purporting to care about justice and equality, should have been inconceivable. Instead, it was inevitable.

 

My first instinct upon opening Twitter in the wake of his attack was to be outraged at the dearth of journalists and pundits defending Ngo or arguing that violence is never acceptable. But then I thought about it for more than a moment.

 

Violence is often acceptable. Sometimes it is even admirable. It is entirely ethical to conclude that if someone attacks you, you can use violence to repel his assault. Likewise, if someone or a group of someones were violently assaulting a third party, it would be not only unobjectionable, but heroic, to step in and stop the assault, even if the only way to do so was through the use violence.

 

This is precisely why the attack on Ngo was inevitable and why, in all likelihood, further attacks, from Antifa activists and others, will follow.

 

Pundits on the right have long rallied against the left’s misuse of words like “unsafe” or “violent.” We have long cautioned that, beyond doing a gross injustice to the English language, these misuses would ultimately beget something worse than an abuse of syntax.

 

Ngo’s assault — and the reaction to it — is that something worse. Once you buy into the idea that speech can be violent, the logic defending violence as a means of suppressing speech is almost unassailable.

 

https://thefederalist.com/2019/07/02/antifa-assault-andy-ngo-inevitable-will-repeated/

 

Once more, I refer you back to Robespierre.

 

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If the basis of popular government in peacetime is virtue, the basis of popular government during a revolution is both virtue and terror; virtue, without which terror is baneful; terror, without which virtue is powerless. Terror is nothing more than speedy, severe and inflexible justice; it is thus an emanation of virtue; it is less a principle in itself, than a consequence of the general principle of democracy, applied to the most pressing needs of the patrie.