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  1. OP ,stands for original post. I addressed the very first post, of Sean's thread...
  2. I don't care what other complaints were made or what the responses were to them.
  3. He can pipe up when he chooses to. It's only becoming diverting because of your own input.
  4. I thought you understood my warm opinion toward you despite disagreeing with some things like they are the plague.😁
  5. Is your name Sean ?
  6. Thanks, but I didn't ask you nungali or Ralis. It makes a difference what Sean has to say himself, in response to my question ,because the derision and threat goes beyond the boundaries of the thread.
  7. I wasn't going to interfere with this thread, and my statement isn't political, it's about the welcomeness I should consider to exist here. Is it to now be Marx way or the highway? Because, frankly ,I am shocked at this intro.
  8. The Brexit Thread

    I thought you were going to say he was version 2.0
  9. The Brexit Thread

    I hope he works out for you guys, ,, but Trump is still the original.
  10. Trump talk

    Holy Grail. Very Apt.
  11. Trump talk

    Exactly - they should be saying that , Both the DNC and the Dem influenced FBI and CIA appear to have been making connections to the Russians ( and others) , to undermine the President , sell off our Uranium , undermine our energy self sufficiency in both oil and natural gas , and it is in fact ...collusion. Mifsud , Steele , Dearlove were supposedly 'friendlies'. Just like Biden was involved with Ukrainian Natural Gas oligarchs by creating a corrupt ANTI-corruption intelligence-scheme partnership, between our FBI and the Ukrainian security apparatus. ( and way more ) It looks to me like Russia made a halfhearted -BS -digital -interweb -feint at interfering. They were in FAVOR of our leftists gaining advantage. All the DNC had to do was ask for help , the pittance of money exchanged , was just paying off participants. There is a principle , that the bigger the conspiracy , the more likely that you are going to have a weak link. So, whats the minimum number of major players you'd need to make the whole thing go , the answer is about five. Comey, Brennan, Rosenstein , and Hillary - FBI CIA Attorney Gen and head of the DNC.
  12. Trump talk

    Exactamundo , In fact, I would go a step farther and suggest that the Russians were just providing what was asked of them , and that the people doing the actual dis-informing was the DNC itself. If the Russians wanted to provide stuff harmful to Clinton , they could provide dirt on her to the FBI , and Steele report would have her pissing on a bed in Moscow ( or somewhere). It makes zero sense to provide ' dirt ' on Trump, if the target is Hillary. The DNC lawyers , Perkins Coie decided to subcontract Fusion who had Steele's commentary , and the Russians had no way to force that to happen , as an avenue from which to insert the dirt into the FBI. The Russians did help out in providing the avenue which went through Brennan.. the crown material. If the Russians were hostile to Hillary , they could take her Emails and use them to discredit her, and they don't need to pass garbage via Steele through Fusion and the DNC. Another possibility is that Hillary wanted the sensitive Info on her Email to be available to the Russians , where they could get at it. In exchange , they would help her frame Trump. ANd in fact that such traitorious connections were made with several countries. I dunno all that as fact, but one really needs to decide from whom was the basic plan originating , and IMO clearly it was the DNC. Why Barr says 'No Americans colluded with Russia ', is still a thing that I find confusing though. Is that just a comment about the findings of the Mueller report ? or is this what he would want to say is a general fact even apart from the report?
  13. Trump talk

    I toughed it out and watched most of the Mueller thing last night, I have to admit I fell asleep for a while. But I want to share that I thought Our Republican warriors did a great job with the questions. Hopefully that was the last gasp of trying to pretend that the Russian angle hoax was legit and they can all turn their attention to making good law , while those investigators charged with running down the bad guys do their thing. That would be great.
  14. Trump talk

    It may be elementary but I can't tease out your train of thought from these snippets . You say element , I say U238 ? :). Acording to the Gaetz snippet , Gaetz thinks that Mueller was enjoined to study Russian interference in general , but according to rosensteins letter , Mueller was only mandated to look at Trumps involvement in that regard. If Mueller found any connections to Clinton he had to get the OK from Rosenstein to look into it. So if Mueller testifies that its outside his purview, then he is throwing Rosenstein under the bus.. in regards to the questions on why were these other leads not followed up (i) any links and/or coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign of Donald Trump; On page 2 and 3 of the report , Mueller carefully worded what his mandate was , and it was in regards to Trump , though it can easily be read to mean he had much broader authority. For questions about the scope of the investigation Rosenstein needs to be brought up before a grand jury. He signed the FISA application , He hired mueller , allowed mueller to hire pit bulls, and manipulated the scope of what was covered , and then like many do , he bailed out of the office. AAnd he prompted Trump to fire Comey , which was a thing that would look bad , like Trump was obstructing. Rosenstein's letter Rod Rosenstein's letter recommending Comey be fired 10 May 2017 Mueller Trump-Russia inquiry Image captionDeputy attorney general Rod Rosenstein penned the memo recommending Comey's dismissal President Donald Trump followed the recommendation of his deputy attorney general when he fired FBI boss James Comey. What did Rod Rosenstein say? This is his letter in full. Memorandum for the Attorney General FROM: Rod J Rosenstein SUBJECT: Restoring public confidence in the FBI The Federal Bureau of Investigation has long been regarded as our nation's premier federal investigative agency. Over the past year, however, the FBI's reputation and credibility have suffered substantial damage, and it has affected the entire Department of Justice. That is deeply troubling to many Department employees and veterans, legislators and citizens. The current FBI Director is an articulate and persuasive speaker about leadership and the immutable principles of the Department of Justice. He deserves our appreciation for his public service. As you and I have discussed, however, I cannot defend the Director's handling of the conclusion of the investigation of Secretary Clinton's emails, and I do not understand his refusal to accept the nearly universal judgment that he was mistaken. Almost everyone agrees that the Director made serious mistakes; it is one of the few issues that unites people of diverse perspectives. The director was wrong to usurp the Attorney General's authority on July 5, 2016, and announce his conclusion that the case should be closed without prosecution. It is not the function of the Director to make such an announcement. At most, the Director should have said the FBI had completed its investigation and presented its findings to federal prosecutors. The Director now defends his decision by asserting that he believed attorney General Loretta Lynch had a conflict. But the FBI Director is never empowered to supplant federal prosecutors and assume command of the Justice Department. There is a well-established process for other officials to step in when a conflict requires the recusal of the Attorney General. On July 5, however, the Director announced his own conclusions about the nation's most sensitive criminal investigation, without the authorization of duly appointed Justice Department leaders. What was Clinton FBI probe about? Compounding the error, the Director ignored another longstanding principle: we do not hold press conferences to release derogatory information about the subject of a declined criminal investigation. Derogatory information sometimes is disclosed in the course of criminal investigations and prosecutions, but we never release it gratuitously. The Director laid out his version of the facts for the news media as if it were a closing argument, but without a trial. It is a textbook example of what federal prosecutors and agents are taught not to do. In response to skeptical question at a congressional hearing, the Director defended his remarks by saying that his "goal was to say what is true. What did we do, what did we find, what do we think about it." But the goal of a federal criminal investigation is not to announce our thoughts at a press conference. The goal is to determine whether there is sufficient evidence to justify a federal criminal prosecution, then allow a federal prosecutor who exercises authority delegated by the Attorney General to make a prosecutorial decision, and then - if prosecution is warranted - let the judge and jury determine the facts. We sometimes release information about closed investigations in appropriate ways, but the FBI does not do it sua sponte. Concerning his letter to the Congress on October 28, 2016, the Director cast his decision as a choice between whether he would "speak" about the FBI's decision to investigate the newly-discovered email messages or "conceal" it. "Conceal" is a loaded term that misstates the issue. When federal agents and prosecutors quietly open a criminal investigation, we are not concealing anything; we are simply following the longstanding policy that we refrain from publicizing non-public information. In that context, silence is not concealment. My perspective on these issues is shared by former Attorneys General and Deputy Attorneys General from different eras and both political parties. Judge Laurence Silberman, who served as Deputy Attorneys General under President Ford, wrote that "it is not the bureau's responsibility to opine on whether a matter should be prosecuted." Silberman believes that the Director's "Performance was so inappropriate for an FBI director that [he] doubt the bureau will ever completely recover." Jamie Gorelick, Deputy Attorney General under President George W. Bush, to opine that the Director had "chosen personally to restrike the balance between transparency and fairness, department from the department's traditions." They concluded that the Director violated his obligation to "preserve, protect and defend" the traditions of the Department and the FBI. Former Attorney General Michael Mukasey, who served under President George W Bush, observed the Director "stepped way outside his job in disclosing the recommendation in that fashion" because the FBI director "doesn't make that decision". Alberto Gonzales, who also served as Attorneys General under President George W Bush, called the decision "an error in judgement." Eric Holder, who served as Deputy Attorneys General under President Clinton and Attorneys General under President Obama, said that the Director's decision "was incorrect. It violated long-standing Justice Department policies and traditions. And it ran counter to guidance that I put in place four years ago laying out the proper way to conduct investigations during an election season." Holder concluded that the Director "broke with these fundamental principles" and "negatively affected public trust in both the Justice Department and the FBI". Former Deputy Attorneys General Gorelick and Thompson described the unusual event as "real-time, raw-take transparency taken to its illogical limit, a kind of reality TV of federal criminal investigation," that is "antithetical to the interests of justice". Donald Ayer, who served as Deputy Attorneys General under President HW Bush, along with former Justice Department officials, was "astonished and perplexed" by the decision to "break[] with longstanding practices followed by officials of both parties during past elections." Ayer's letter noted, "Perhaps most troubling… is the precedent set by this departure from the Department's widely-respected, non-partisan traditions." We should reject the departure and return to the traditions. Although the President has the power to remove an FBI director, the decision should not be taken lightly. I agree with the nearly unanimous opinions of former Department officials. The way the Director handled the conclusion of the email investigation was wrong. As a result, the FBI is unlikely to regain public and congressional trust until it has a Director who understands the gravity of the mistakes and pledges never to repeat them. Having refused to admit his errors, the Director cannot be expected to implement the necessary corrective actions. dunno why theres a strike through
  15. Trump talk

    Ok , but then I do not see why The DOJ is investigating the Uranium One scandal is noted.