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2 minutes ago, beachbum78 said:

 

Nei gong means inner skill. 

And? Read my first post. 

2 minutes ago, beachbum78 said:

 

Immortality is based off the history of the lineage meaning it is attributed to an immortal or Buddha thus making it worthwhile.

No. 

2 minutes ago, beachbum78 said:

 

So again what basis are you saying that lonemanpai methods lead to immortality.?  

Read my first post. 

 

2 minutes ago, beachbum78 said:

I hope your not wasting your time money and efforts just because you didnt ask a few questions..

Read my first post. 

Strawman argument. 

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Beachbum, can you talk about your personal qigong branch and teacher? What do you practice? 

Have you practiced the meditation methods that are on the other videos of that Youtube channel? What do you think about it? 

 

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22 minutes ago, beachbum78 said:

Good luck Mudfoot your going to need it. 

 

Oh did you know Taichi Tao Master Waysun Liao is doing a new streaming service?

 

https://www.taostream.org/grandmaster-waysun-liao/

If you bothered to read my first post, you might notice there that I actually have a practice. 

 

So why would I be interested in buying in to another internet sell? 

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2 hours ago, beachbum78 said:

Kinda why I posted links to real Taoists.

 

You have not responded to my post showing your taoist kungfu master performing a cheap trick of breaking stone and thus scamming his students.

 

Do you think it is not a fraud to claim you do something by your internal qi power when infact all you are doing is a trick anybody can do?

 

Is that an inner skill?

 

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Just to help clarify the ranting, lonemanpai is just as much antitaoist as it is antichrist.  So if you're wanting to compare us to your ideas about "real" taoist monks you're gonna be making some nonsensical arguments.  Which honestly seems to be the case anyways lol

 

Going with that, our ideas on immortality may or may not coincide with yours.

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On 3/20/2019 at 11:55 AM, beachbum78 said:

 

Guess I touched a nerve. 

 

Doubt it.

 

 

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1 hour ago, ilumairen said:

Heaven save us from the crusaders... 

 

You are not authentic chikung master?

You do not have chinese lineage?

You do not possess pie skillz?

You do not wear black kungfu shirt?

 

They are coming for you!

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10 hours ago, Starjumper said:

 

You're only supposed to use three dots ... instead of four or five.

 

Says who   .......    you  ? 

 

You do not expect me to be  ..    conventional    ...................   do you ?

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5 hours ago, GSmaster said:

 

You have not responded to my post showing your taoist kungfu master performing a cheap trick of breaking stone and thus scamming his students.

 

Do you think it is not a fraud to claim you do something by your internal qi power when infact all you are doing is a trick anybody can do?

 

Is that an inner skill?

 

 

 Let's be fair, beachbum does seem to possess the 'inner skill' of avoiding pointed questions and observations which embarrassingly destroy his position and claims  though   .

 

;) 

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3 hours ago, GSmaster said:

 

You are not authentic chikung master?

You do not have chinese lineage?

You do not possess pie skillz?

You do not wear black kungfu shirt?

 

 

 

Do not be intimidated by robes  and documents of office . They may not indicate authority or lineage , they may have been inherited, bought, scammed and not EARNED  . 

 

(My paraphrase from Japanese Art of War )

 

Spoiler

Here are some 'impressive' titles I earned  ... was 'awarded '  in my IV degree initiation ;

 


Secret Master. 

Perfect Master. 

Intimate Secretary. 

Provost and Judge. 

Intendant of the Buildings. 

Elect of Nine. 

Elect of Fifteen. 

Sublime Elect. 

Grand Master Architect. 

Companion of the Royal Arch of Enoch. 

Scottish Knight of Perfection. 

Discreet Master. 

Sublime Master. 

Knight of the Sacred Arch. 

Knight of the Secret Vault. 

Secret Master. 

Perfect Master. 

Master by Curiosity or Intimate Secretary. 

Provost and Judge or Irish Master or Egyptian Knight. 
English Master or Knight of Israel.

Elect of Nine. 

Elect of the Unknown. 

Elect of Fifteen. 

Perfect Elect. 

Illustrious Elect. 

....  ahh fuck, it goes on and on and that stage I cant even be bothered to reproduce them   :D    Most peeps at this stage of the ceremony become curious, then after a bit WTF ?, then bored ... then "is this really happening " indeed ! It is one of the most gruelling trials of initiation !  :D

 

Thing is, most peeps quickly learn from this experience the folly of degrees and titles and robes of office, compared to RESULTS !

 

(and if you look deeper into it, you discover one of your 'titles' slipped into the middle is 'eater of camel dung '    :D  )

 

But there are also other types of people that  take this part of the initiation serious and literally ! Some even  have gone to the extent to hunt and procure all the obscure badges of office from all those degrees and pin them to their robe , even though no one or no text every suggests that !   

 

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There robes are weighed down with jingle and glitter  ... they dont seem to notice that  members of the next degree wear plain unadorned simple 'Tau' robe .

 

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Do the others tell them ?  Nope .    All they have to do is to go on to the next stage of initiation where all this is stripped from you, even your mundane identity, titles, offices,  name .....  in preparation for the next step .

 

But many never take it, they feel comfortable in the world of false outer achievements,  glamour,   pretty trinkets  and costumes .

 

<  shrug >  "Such is life " .

 

 

 

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47 minutes ago, Nungali said:

Do not be intimidated by robes  and documents of office . They may not indicate authority or lineage , they may have been inherited, bought, scammed and not EARNED  . 

 

Scharlatans always have dozens of diploma and certificates that they are approved masters, lineage holders in 50th generation and simply kings of the land. Authority is often hiding lack of any real ability or skill. I have seen a taoist forum / school of internal art, that does not believe in existence of Qi, but their art is all about translating chinese texts. They truly believed that only by learning and reading chinese you could become real taoist master. Anybody who does not know chinese, does not know roots of qigong, cannot be Qigong Master.

 

(Abstract)

Spoiler

 

Studying human mind is fascinating as soon you notice that humans are not "different" from each other, there are similarities, and these similarities have patterns, those patterns can be interchanged and interplaced. So it is like science, it works, in repeated experiment, forming a base for countless deductions and calculations.

So an ego or human self, can be studied and with pretty high 99% probability repeat itself time and time over again.


Fnatics are all the same, be it taoist, buddhist, politics, religions. Human self, or human ego, leads a person to walk in a predetermined way, be it emotions, thoughts, actions, or words, and in the end they give you predetermined results, that can be foreseen from the beginning. People cannot even resist this power moving them around doing things by them as tools.

 

As I feel path of awakening with any practice or any tradition has to lead a human being away from predetermined routes, from being bottish (npc being) to being an entity with atleast some freedom of choice, some flexibility.

 

 

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5 hours ago, GSmaster said:

 

You are not authentic chikung master?

You do not have chinese lineage?

You do not possess pie skillz?

You do not wear black kungfu shirt?

 

They are coming for you!

 

Actually they generally leave me alone - even when I occasionally poke them.

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9 hours ago, GSmaster said:

 

You have not responded to my post showing your taoist kungfu master performing a cheap trick of breaking stone and thus scamming his students.

 

Do you think it is not a fraud to claim you do something by your internal qi power when infact all you are doing is a trick anybody can do?

 

Is that an inner skill?

 

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SOTG is a decent, knowledgeable guy...spent years giving away material  for free

 

I was on both of his forums and to be totally honest hes never been anything but helpful and eager to offer advice..Im currently studying so cannot afford his website, but being honest its cheap given that he literally cooks most of his students with transmissions alone...you're way out of line here

 

Also I would not recommend getting on that groups bad side....

 

They are a decent bunch and never bother anyone...in fact ive found them all to be helpful..got some nice tips on fasting before I left and still use them today

 

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Yes I agree. I popped over to their forum a few years back and tried some of their stuff. Wasn’t for me, so I moved on. But they were all friendly and, most importantly, focused on their practice. 

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I'm gonna buy SOCG a limo , with little   bumper flag poles with yin yang flags on 'em.  And make its grill like the mouth on his mask .

 

And give him awesome chauffeur   ,  like  Kato 

 

 

 

 

:) 

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5 hours ago, Nungali said:

 

 

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Do the others tell them ?  

 

 

What? 

 

You carry the Robe of Infinity and the Medals of Mystery, and you haven't told us? 

 

I feel... ...  sort of betrayed. 

 

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4 hours ago, ilumairen said:

Actually they generally leave me alone - even when I occasionally poke them.

 

That was a pun / reference. 

Spoiler

 

To one brilliant commercial by Tide,

They were coming with Tide detergent to random people,

and were threatening to come every home that still does not use Tide, 

Tide is coming after you, is an old meme.

 

Yeah so, if you still do not wear black kungfu shirt and did not get a license that you are taoist, 

beachbum78 is coming 

 


 

 

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5 hours ago, Mudfoot said:

What? 

 

You carry the Robe of Infinity and the Medals of Mystery, and you haven't told us? 

 

I feel... ...  sort of betrayed. 

 

Y? Is that an insult? There is suppose to be a G in the middle, not a Y?! :huh:I am not a free mason, but but the middle 0 is a G.

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7 minutes ago, Everything said:

Y? Is that an insult? 

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Just doing my part, helping this thread to go really off topic. 😁 

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Just now, Mudfoot said:

Just doing my part, helping this thread to go really off topic. 😁 

Sorry xD

 

Uhm, I, uhh.... I still don't know what long men pai is! :blush:

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Just now, Everything said:

 

Uhm, I, uhh.... I still don't know what long men pai is! :blush:

Long Men Pai =Dragon Gate school/sect, the Quanzhen sub-line that ascended to dominance. 

 

Nei Dan school of your Dreams, under famous Wang Li Ping. 

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6 minutes ago, Mudfoot said:

Long Men Pai =Dragon Gate school/sect, the Quanzhen sub-line that ascended to dominance. 

 

Nei Dan school of your Dreams, under famous Wang Li Ping. 

What does it mean when someone says to you that their greatest dream is to ride on a dragon? 

 

That's actually an honest question I've had for a long time. Like I think I am always confused because everyone has a different perspective of what a dragon is actually reffering to.


For example This is the complete opposite of an asian dragon, I think.

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