3bob

I'd say lots of it but not everything, for there is a lot of KJ Bible sounding text that came through.

maybe unless we go with the sipper of sipper?

more along the lines of seekers and making preparations: https://www.swami-krishnananda.org/upanishad/upan_03.html

righto, except it will have to incarnate before being able to sip same

fun as in the Bible with the "vanity of vanities" madness and or "why hast thou forsaken me" of visceral and heart shredding doubt?

there is the saying in Buddhism that, "samsara properly understood is nirvana" which to me does not sound like any form of denial of samsara... so (it seems) in one Advaita related way could we say, the unreal when properly understood is enlightenment. ?

Also Cayce's take on the Book of Revelations is interesting, and far from fundamentalist Christianity.

then start your own thread and chip away there.... obviously

Rideforever, That sounds like a mountain size chip on the shoulder, and quasi-4th way stuff, thanks but not interested.

depending on the school "desire" sometimes has the connotation of a four letter word...anyway could we say compassion has the built in desire and nature to be compassionate and joy has the built in desire and nature to be joyous? And along those lines that the transcendent has the built in desire and nature to manifest both....

in Taoist terms why would the great Tao desire to give birth to "The One", then on to "The Two", "The Three" and "Ten Thousand", none of which I believe are described as only apparent.

they?

in realization a "my" transcendent is no different from the transcendent...

Shakti is not suppressed, Om is not suppressed, Yantra is not suppressed, thus flowing in divine desire and dance which is not suppressed.

What does the transcendent desire? - apparently manifestation? Yet if nothing is gained and nothing is lost then why veiling and then unveiling?