Zhongyongdaoist

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  1. First of all as for a source to what I mention, I am afraid that after decades of reading and study in largely intellectual history and focusing on the esoteric and its practices, any knowledge that I have of Chinese social structure was incidental, and to come up with source at this point in time would be more work than I care to do, but I remember the order which I mentioned because I thought it interesting at the time. Occupations of tradesman and farmer are what common people do, since the question was about tradesman and farmers, I gave an answer about common people, not about the elite. I don't want to get into a detailed discussion about social structure, it is not of much interest to me, and I could no more give specific citations for my opinions about that than about what I have for the lower classes. I could for example speculate that one of the reasons that this classification developed was to put social climbing tradesmen who had accumulated large fortunes in their place as money grubbing exploiters with an eye on the money and a thumb on the scale, but that would be pure speculation. Wrong. This assumes Medieval feudalism as a universal model and projects it everywhere, and while as far as I can tell it this can be done for many times and places it is not universally applicable, and there are local variables. It is often not applicable to the earlier periods of societies and particularly those where there were small family run farms such as early Republican Rome. Again I am not going to cite anything for this, just as Stosh has not. I don't intend to put any more time into this, I hope that those who continue it have fun. ZYD
  2. It is because the traders were considered to be people who profited from other peoples productive labor, and created nothing themselves, except profits for themselves. Peasants were at the top because they were farmers who created food, the necessity for all, and then craftsmen who created useful items from tools to clothing. ZYD
  3. Complex numbers

    Thanks Steve, I have been doing the posting equivalent of biting my tongue for three or so hours, but I didn't want to post again unless absolutely necessary to get past this obstacle, and I was hoping that someone else would bring up these points, so I wouldn't have to. ZYD
  4. Complex numbers

    With all due respect wandelaar, if I were going to discuss complex numbers I would use a number theory approach, and show how both "negative" and "imaginary" numbers arise from doing such basic operations as addition and subtraction, multiplication and division, on what are called "the Natural Numbers", then the nature and origin of these concepts, such as negative numbers can then be seen as answers to questions which naturally arise, like "I know that 8-7 equals 1, but what does 7-8 equal?", and becomes much clearer. All the best in your endeavor, ZYD
  5. I have studied and practiced Western Magic since the 60s, and started to study and practice Qigong in the early 70s, I became familiar with the Daoist magic related to Qi development in the late 70s, finally starting to practice it in the early 90s, you might find these and other posts in my PPD interesting: What, me teach? Ok, sure why not . . . Proposed Curriculum; the What, the How, and the Why My apologies to casual readers who cannot follow these links, but they are open to registered Dao Bums only. ZYD Edit: Corrected some spacing issues.
  6. Practical alchemy apology

    There is no evidence that I am aware of to indicate that Frater Albertus had done anything more than to popularize alchemy. I have yet to come across anything which suggests he had succeeded in achieving a mineral stone and much to indicate that he had badly erred in some fundamental ways. No others who have publicly come forth from his "lineage" have offered any public evidence (or private, though of course I may not be privy to it) that they have succeeded in any significant respect either. FraterUFA, I was hoping that you would put in an appearance, and as the only person posting on the Dao Bums whose opinion in these matters I would give credence to, I consider your criticism to be anything but an idle dismissal. My "I don't think that he can be idly dismissed", was intentionally about as lukewarm as I could make it based on my own quick look at him. As for your observations about Frater Albertus, I had reached similar conclusions by the mid 70s, but where would any of us be without him? On the other hand when you said in one of your posts years ago, that alcohol was not the mercury of the vegetable kingdom as many moderns maintain, I knew that you had thought deeply about the matter and read the sages carefully. While alcohol is a "spirit" and a menstruum it cannot be "the Mercury" because it lacks the generative virtue which "the Mercury" must have. The fact that you knew that, and other things that you have said, are to my mind convincing evidence that you have gone far deeper into the matter than many others. I don't have time to say much more than what I have, though I did think about writing my own defense of laboratory alchemy, as I was not impressed with what I read about his speculations about quantum mechanics etc, but on thinking about it, I decided it would be way to time consuming at this time. ZYD
  7. Practical alchemy apology

    After my post it occurred to me that I made the same mistake as ernobe, I didn't say who Albertus was, and very few on the Dao Bums will have any idea. Frater Albertus was the single minded driving force behind the revival of laboratory alchemy in the mid Twentieth Century. I can only speculate at what ernobe may have meant by this: " Why does Rubaphilos first affirm the validity of a physical process of alchemy, and then say that the alchemists' belief in or rejection of transmutation depends on his own personal motives in making such a claim? " But, I would restate one way of taking what he says this way, basically quoting the first part as written: "Why does Rubaphilos first affirm the validity of a physical process of alchemy, and then say that the alchemists' belief in or rejection of transmutation depends on his own personal worldview and reasons which he has for holding that worldview, and whether that worldview allows transmutation as a real possibility or not." For example there are people who holding a rather common view of the world as made up of "spirit" and "matter", each of which obeys its own rules, might very well be open to a notion of "spiritual" alchemy and dismiss the notion of "laboratory" alchemy seeking to transmute "base metals into gold", would be so much stuff and nonsense. There are a large number of people here on the Dao Bums who would hold just such a view, and precious few who would be willing to seriously entertain the notion of a "physical" philosopher's stone, as past discussions of alchemy here on the Dao Bums has shown. I don't have time for a longer discussion now. ZYD
  8. Practical alchemy apology

    Before this degenerates into complete nonsense, let me do something that ernobe should have done, but did not, which is tell us who Rubaphilos is and something of his background, according to Occult of Personality: and has been the author of several books including some published by Salamander and Sons, which while they seem to be out of business also seem to have published some very interesting serious work on Laboratory alchemy. If he studied with a student of Frater Albertus, then he has a legitimate pedigree at least, and for those inclined to look at videos, there may be something to be learned from what he says. I don't care to watch videos, but for those who do, I don't think that he can be idly dismissed. ZYD
  9. Daoist weather magic and Feng Shui

    It seems you are referring to Daoist Weather Magic and Feng Shui by Prof. Jerry Alan Johnson. I have read it and the others in the Series, as well As Prof. Johnson's books on medical Qigong. Based on what I gather from your posts you would be wasting your time with any of the books in the Daoist Magic series, and would be well advised to do what his own students do and begin with his works on Daoist Energetic Healing (The link goes to his recommended sequence of reading/study). There is no hard and fast line in Esoteric Daoist healing between medicine and magic, so his books on Energetic Healing are full of useful Daoist magical training. However, I would still recommend, as I did in a previous post, that you start with Don Kraig's Modern Magick, I practiced Western magic, as well as Qigong, for decades before actually doing Daoist magic. The two studies are complementary and Western Magic is actually easier to learn. ZYD
  10. May anyone instruct me in how to MAKE talismans etc.

    If you are really serious get yourself a copy of Don Kraig's Modern Magick. Start practicing as he instructs for about a year or so and you will be able to charge Talismans, among other interesting things. ZYD
  11. Advanced Magick and occult grimoires

    I know him, he used to be my gardener! Still trying to pass himself off as some kind of Master Magician is he? Some people never just never learn! ZYD
  12. different kabala trees

    It's been a long time since I bothered with untangling Qabalah in its purely Jewish sense, not since the early 80s, but first of all, your dating of anything relating to Abulafia is wrong, since he was a medieval Qabalist, and anything that is his should be dated to the Thirteenth Century. Beyond that I don't have more to say now, since I would need to really rummage through my prodigious memory to say anything more than speculation based on some things that immediately come to mind. ZYD
  13. (-:

    The best news I have had in a long time. Welcome back! ZYD
  14. Daozang for non-chinese speakers?

    Also available at: Archive.org Daozang The material in the books is an excellent guide, but you really need to bring knowledge to it, to know where to mine more knowledge out of it. At some point I will have to make a recommended reading list, but Saso's work would be on it, as well as others. ZYD
  15. Silly hats of religion

    Move as per the above request. After thinking about it a bit I decided that because of its humorous slant this might be better in the Rabbit Hole then General Discussion. Zhongyongdaoist, Concierge