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My experience with Zhongxian Wu (Master Wu)
Nuralshamal replied to Nuralshamal's topic in Systems and Teachers of
There's obviously a difference from situation to situation, and a humongous difference between theory and practice. However, what I will say to adress your points is, yes. What I've seen in my life is that it's generally best to do just 1 practical action. All the thinking, planning, feeling, strategizing etc, honestly, for manifesting something in this physical world, is not that needed. People who actually create the life they want to live, every single one of them, take massive practical action on a daily basis, even without a long term plan, even when conditions are not ideal, even without any strategy. However, I've met tons of people who are super smart, intellectual, have all the right plans and strategy, but they have nothing to show for it, as they don't take practical action on it. So yes, as a general advice, I would say for 99.9% of people, if you want to help them live and manifest their dream life, it's actually a better piece of advice to "just go for it", than to plan, wait, get conditions perfect, prepare, plan, strategize. Just get going, 1 step at a time, that's what's king in this physical, material world. Just take the first practical step. Just DO the thing. Then the rest will naturally follow. Whereas thinking and planning endlessly doesn't work. It's actually a trap for most, especially white, middle class people. Try to interview all the strongest, richest, happiest, most materially succesful or most powerful spiritual people you know, I'm sure you'll find all who make it, who rise above the inertia of average, they would all agree, that action is king, even without a plan. The few people (remaining 0.1%) who I would advise to just use their head a bit before starting, is people from poor or lower class backgrounds, or most non-white people. Many of these are master-doers, but mostly get themselves into trouble, whereas white middle class people are experts at thinking and analyzing, but always remain wage-slaves to "the man" and argue that "I could if I wanted to", yet never do it. This is also where we find the most incels. And I take that the vast majority of people on this forum are white, middle class people. Hence the tailored advice "just do!". Ofc you can let me know your concrete situation and I could tailor advice to you personally, whether you should plan or do -
Jasper Lake Maoshan (Jason Read Daoist Magic)
Nuralshamal replied to Nuralshamal's topic in Daoist Discussion
Would definitely recommend you to keep going, that is the best way to make yourself stronger. Yes, I used his Cosmic Orbit DVD in the beginning 6 months when I was reading his books before I decided to go for a live workshop. It's great, but it's nothing compared to going to a live workshop. So follow the DVD, and when you've done a couple of 49 day cycles of daily practice without fail, take an online class with him. Do a couple of 49 day cycles of daily practice without fail with that. Then when you're ready mentally and financially (to invest time and money), go to a workshop. Then do 49 day cycles of that. Then again when you're ready for the larger investment of time and money, go on a retreat. Wu is hands down the most legit and authentic practioner. I have also critiqued him slightly here and there over the years, but honestly, after so many years, trying so many teachers and schools, his stuff is just so legit and authentic, I've not found anyone cloes to him, only ZYM, but he's so inacessible. Why waste time with inferior stuff "to make yourself ready?" Go for gold ASAP, you're just wasting time. The time "to prepare yourself" could've been spent leveling up and going further in your cultivation journey. We have so limited time in this life on this planet to level up spiritually, and trust me, truly leveling up spiritually is a life long journey of daily practice, it's not just over night. Every single moment is precious, don't waste it. Ofc we need some foreplay to get going, but endless foreplay serves no one. Go for the main act! Why waste time? That you've come across him means you're ready. So go for it! Enjoy- 50 replies
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My experience with Zhongxian Wu (Master Wu)
Nuralshamal replied to Nuralshamal's topic in Systems and Teachers of
Yes, give it a go Just give a recording a go, start today, why wait? It's always best to get going and learn by experience instead of eternally pondering and analysing. Then you're in the process. That's been a huge life-lesson for me the past 3-5 years. Get going, pluck the lowest hanging fruit first (easy wins, low risk), then proceed from there to next lowest hanging fruit. Take action. Eg after a 49 day cycle of the recording (lowest hanging fruit, no risk, it's cheap and at home), then you'll have an even better ground on which to decide whether you want to go to a live workshop (which cost more time and money). 1 practical step at a time thought, feeling, action, repeat. Anyways, just my 2 cents, take it or leave it, all the best bro! -
My experience with Zhongxian Wu (Master Wu)
Nuralshamal replied to Nuralshamal's topic in Systems and Teachers of
@hierundjetzt that's a great question. When I did the live 1 day workshop, it just worked immediately. I was practicing daily on my mother and sister, then 1-3x/week on my dad and his girlfriend (my parents are divorced). Just whenever I saw them. We all live close to each other, so daily when I had to practice, I usually went to visit them, so I could do the initial practice on my own for 20-60 minutes, then afterwards when I was full of the energy from the practice, I would practice the healing part, then afterwards go back into a room to meditate and do closing for about 5-10 minutes. After about 2-3 weeks, people started calling me, because they heard of it. That's when I tried distance healing for the first time. I did what Wu told me: just remember the last time you saw the person. Then visualise you're there with them again, then do the healing. It's a 49 day practice cycle to get the power, and even then it's not always a success. Wu told me him and another fellow student who had both been chosen to carry on the Emei talisman lineage had to go through a particular 49 day program at the mountain monastery. After completion, next day, they had to do a test to see if their practice had been accepted or not. So it's not a given. And they practiced at the temple itself, directly under a lineage holding master, daily offering elaborate ritual prayer and offering for 2-3 hours in a kneeling position to the lineage masters and much more elaborate practice. I also remember many of his students confiding in me that they feel completely spent and exhausted after healing others. Whereas master Wu told me the more he heals the more energetic he feels (because of the lineage hookup to unlimitied universal qi - so every time he connects with universal qi for healing, he also gets a boost). So honestly Wu has not 100% answered what it takes to get the full transmission and lineage hook up. Because these students that confided in me have spent 10-15 years with him, and I would guess they've done innummerable 49 day cycles. But then again, I've realized the past couple of years that it's actually super rare to have the discipline to do daily practice without fail for years and years, also just for 49 days. I thought it was normal (the discipline, daily practice without fail), I think it's because my dad was a gong fu master, so when I was as little as 4, if I woke up early (e.g. 4-6 in the morning), I would always without fail find him meditating. Then I was in the army for 14 years, this is ofc also a disciplined lifestyle. That's how I grew up, my dad lead by example, he always told me that daily practice without fail under a true guru from authentic lineage is the secret in spirituality. So now I've been going 12.5 years with meditation and 10 with qigong. I can't say why my practice of the talisman "was accepted", because it worked already before the completion of the very first 49 day cycle. Because at that point I think I had only been practicing Master Wu's qigong about 1 or 2 years or so. But the overall rule of thumb and my impression is: if you take any class from Wu (whether in person, online, or a recording - including talisman), and you actually practice everything as taught, to the T, for 49 days without fail, you too will get the power. Hope this helps! All the best bro -
Jasper Lake Maoshan (Jason Read Daoist Magic)
Nuralshamal replied to Nuralshamal's topic in Daoist Discussion
Yes, all from Master Wu is 100% safe However, would definitely recommend you take the time and effort to go to a live workshop. It's worth it!- 50 replies
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Dear Dao Bums, I wanted to share this simple set of exercises: https://www.diamondbodypractice.com/videos It's from the Diamond Approach & Diamond Logos. An integration and further development of Buddhism, Sufism, Daoism, Hinduism and Psychology. I wasn't much impressed when I just briefly looked over the exercises, but I was curious so I decided to try it with my wife. I felt a kind of connection with the "field of the school" coming down and creating a space of "holding" as well as transmission throughout the exercises. I was quite intrigued, as it focuses on the center beneath the feet, the belly center, heart center, head center and the center above the head as well as the central channel linking them all together. It also encourages you to inquire into your experience, explore your body and soul mindfully. Now it's been just over a week, but my wife is feeling energy vibration in all centers as well as her hands doing the "aum" mantra movement, and I am quite impressed with the whole thing to be honest. So just wanted to put it out there and share it, hoping to benefit all living beings
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Dear Dao Bums, Question for you guys Do you have any interesting experiences with Jason Read and his Jasper Lake Maoshan Daoist Magic? I have seen a few posts here on Daobums about his books on daoist magic, but none about the actual daoist magic training with him. My own few observations A fellow qigong brother here on the forum that I'm corresponding with notified me about Jasper Lake Maoshan daoist magic training. I checked out his webpages and read all that I could, and am now reading through his book "Practical Daoist Magic". Webpages: I found the webpages extremely interesting, and I definitely felt what he's sharing to be real, authentic and substantial. I tried meditating on a talisman he's posted to connect with the energy of "the fire star" or Mars, and within 5 minutes I felt heat pouring into my body and getting heated up. I was extremely suprised how fast and powerfully it worked. I took this as a sign that what's he's sharing is truly legit! Book so far: The book is the same story in the sense that it feels very legit and authentic. All the history and mythology he's sharing is perfectly in line with what I've been taught by Master Zhongxian Wu (who I've learnt from for more than 6 years), as is his explanation for yin/yang, 5 elements, 8 trigrams (bagua) stems, branches etc. of course with some slight variations in their personal interpretations. His beginning practices "to cultivate magical power" is also similar to what I've learnt from Master Wu, namely building the lower dan tien, purifying & strengthening the 5 organ system, "retriving" or calling back the spirits of your organs as well as daily mantras for purification (mind, mouth, body, surroundings, pacifying spirits, calling upon the golden light etc). The idea of jing/qi/shen as well as mantra, mudra, visualisation and posture is also similar. All in all I feel it to be very real. What I especially enjoy is that as a westerner he explains things very clearly so that it's easy to understand from a western viewpoint. He also divulges the "secrets" of how things really work and explain the whole process as well as the end result. This is something my chinese teachers never do, they simply encourage you to practice, shoot down your questions, and never explain linearly and in a straight-forward way what things are, how they work, what the process is like, what the result will be or how to measure your progress along the way. The only thing that really made me stop and wonder, was that at some point in the book he says that 30 minutes before and after practice you shouldn't eat or drink (pretty standard advice), however then immediately after he says drinking "only cool water" is allowed. This is a huge shocker! Everyone knows that Chinese never suggest cold water, it should be either hot or lukewarm. This was a big suprise for me, and made me wonder and question how everything could be feel so real and authentic, yet this one basic thing was completely "off" for how Chinese qigong/TCM/cultivation usually rolls. Actually it was such a great shock that it made me question the authenticity of everything. Even though the fire star talisman worked (which I felt to build his credibility), and the explanations feel legit too (which also builds credibility) the advice to drink cool water was so off that it made me wonder and question everything about his whole story of training in China & Malaysia etc. This is what made me write a post here on the forum, I wanted to speak to my dao brothers and sisters and hear your experiences (if any) with Jason Read and his Jasper Lake Maoshan Daoist Magic training. I look forward to hear from you!
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Dear Dao Bums, I will share my experience with Master Zhongxian Wu (known as Master Wu). I will share my experiences in the following points: 1) Overview of what of his qigong I've done 2) General overview of my impression of his systems 3) Big positive suprises with his system 4) Small negative aspects I've noticed over the years 5) Summary 6) Conclusion Overview of his qigong I've done I've practiced many of his forms and meditations, namely: a) fire dragon meridian qigong, b ) shamanic cosmic orbit qigong, c) talisman qigong and healing, d) TuGuNaXing ("blow out the old, take in the new" which is his preferred alchemical meditation), e) Stretching exercises for acheiving the lotus position f) and many more General overview of his systems He teaches different systems, namely: a) Emei Qigong b ) Dai Xin Yi c) Tai Ji d) Wudang Dragon Gate The Emei is more "spiritual" in nature in my opinion, as in this school you connect to the lineage through mantras, mudras and talismans, and thereby gain access to universal energy as well as the energy of the lineage. It is then through this connection you further your own energy, by plugging in to a larger container. My impression is that the Wudang Dragon Gate is a more "mainstream" qigong, meaning that it focuses more on stretching and strengthening the physical body, with a heavy focus on the lower dan tien and increasing health and vitality. Big positive surprises with his systems I was very surprised that no matter what he does, it works! Calligraphy, music, mantras, qigong, meditation, drinking tea, no matter what he teaches, there is a large amount of qi transmission taking place. There really is a possibility of cultivating your jing, qi and shen, your body, energy and spirit, through things such as calligraphy, drinking tea, playing music. This was a big positive surprise. The same goes for his healing methods; all these methods can be used for healing as well. And it works! Even though you don't have powerful qi yourself, by connecting to the lineage through mantras, mudras and talismans, you can get extra qi. Small negative aspects I've noticed over the years The first thing is that he doesn't always answer people's questions. This can be very frustrating. It's a two way street: you need to prove yourself to him, only then will he consider your questions. The second thing I've noticed which is very strange, is that people meeting him for the first time tend not to like him. His long time students worship him, because they know he is for real. He has qi, he has knowledge, and if you keep at it, he can really "deliver the goods". However, for some reason, people who don't know him tend to dislike him, e.g. when going to their first course or workshop with him. This is in stark contrast to other spiritual teachers I've met. Here everyone who meets them simply likes them for no reason. Summary He is a legit master, he teaches the real thing, and whatever he teaches works. He has the knowledge, experience, qi, skills, lineage and transmission to take you all the way from the body, to the energy, to the spirit, and to connect with the universe. The negative aspects are that he is quite expensive, can disregard people's questions, people tend not to like him in the beginning, and he surprises everyone with the amounts of meat and alcohol he ingests. Conclusion If you're looking to experience qi directly, his qi transmission is legit. If you're more into the spiritual side of things, go with Emei and learn the mantras, mudras and talismans. If you're more into the physical and vitalizing aspects of qigong, go for his Wudang Dragon Gate Qigong.