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In fact, since the checkpoints for all lineages are often the same, the inner core of all practices is often identical. At a basic level, it's possible to empty the mind for 3-4 hours. Same with Wang Liping, vipassana, or Mo Pai. The only difference is in some external movements and rituals. And most of those gurus who advocate not mixing different lineages are actually concerned with monetizing spirituality and their bank accounts.

the manifest is connected to the unmanifest thus I'd say it can not be just an illusion per se. (or the "ten thousand" are connected to Tao thus are not just illusion per-se...so it follows that the only illusion is in the lack of full or correct perception .

"But you put those comments under a quoted post from me , which is why I responded the way I did. By the way , this reply IS meant for you". By Nungali, Ok you are right on that, my bad, I was still caught up in the earlier post. Have to think about the rest...

IMHO Ginna is good to be applied on an unskilled fighter.

Methodology is only show someone how the do it. Macroscopically, It doesn't help to appreciate more deeply into the art. You can repeat and repeat of what you are doing. However, there is something might be missing from further understanding of the art. That might prevented you from progressing to a hidden level.