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The thread title says neanderthal - so you can go back a bit further than 200,000 yrs. Selective cultivation of varieties and cross breeding hybrids and wotnot are not really unnatural in the sense of GM are they? Its perfectly possible that our hunter-gatherer forebears selected the best grasses, berries and roots in some way and promoted their growth.

Thanks yes I've seen her interviewed and also listened to her father (whose politics are very mild contrary to what the mainstream media like to suggest). I can see that these extreme dietary measures may be necessary for some people suffering from auto-immune conditions and so on but I'm not convinced they are essentially healthy for everyone. Jordan Peterson eats only beef, that's it, nothing else, which is very extreme. I live in a fruit growing area and have some plants myself, strawberries, blackberries, peaches, figs and so on. Nothing I grow is sprayed of course, so yes odd shapes and worm holes abound. I do eat some supermarket fruit - some seems ok but generally low on taste and high on sweetness. I know for instance that commercial strawberries are sprayed with sugar solution before picking to make them swell up - that's why they are generally so big.

I'm curious what peoples view on fruit is. There's a lot a scare stories about fructose but I think that's mainly to do with corn starch being added to so many convenience foods. I take the view that fruit especially in season and local is good for you. But does it fit in any way with a low carb approach??? TM? anyone?

I think in principle there is very little difference between 'occult' and 'shamanic', as occult really refers to the hermetic sciences which are a way of exploring reality, understanding it, interacting with it, seen as 'whole' - that is including dimensions beyond the physical objective - i.e. the subtle realms and the realms of power(s). So both would regard the 'other' realm(s) as being real - accessible - inhabited by intelligencies and entities with which you can interact - explorable as in you can travel there and so on. However the difference might be that whereas the shamans continue to base themselves in the reality of that other world and how to access it - many western occultist tend to get sucked into grand theories and hierarchies which if they were to consider it are obviously a reflection of their own projecting minds, somewhat bedazzling if they are very up themselves and also a bit nasty if their intent is malevolent. But of course a dodgy shaman will do dodgy things also.

I have no idea why you think I was being facetious. I wasn't. I literally had no idea this picture had anything to do with transphobia, I thought it was about smart clothing versus not smart clothing. I thought this partly because it was posted to Facebook by my gay friend who would not dream of attacking or laughing at anyone for their sexual orientation/gender or anything like that having experienced discrimination throughout his life on this basis. If this meme offends you then take it down. I said this before. But spare me the censorious lectures.

It was posted by a gay friend of mine on Facebook and I have no idea what it has to do with transgenderism - its a comment on changing standards in attire over the decades. You should get off your high horse I think. But if you really object, its your site so take it down. I have no idea what punching down at structural targets means - perhaps you could rephrase that in plain English for me.

The abused people all seem to share the wish to surrender their ego (after having some kind of trauma or depression) and chose Sogyal Rinpoche to surrender to. I'm sure that trust and surrender do provide some kind of release/relief from suffering - subjectively - but I think this is a misunderstanding of 'mogu' which is devotion to the Lama - and in the long term they just become (as they did ) victims or naive followers unable to distinguish what is right from what is wrong.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/01/obituaries/sogyal-rinpoche-dies.html https://www.theguardian.com/society/2019/sep/02/trustee-uk-charity-covered-up-abuse-buddhist-guru-rigpa-fellowship

https://www.quantamagazine.org/a-mathematical-model-unlocks-the-secrets-of-vision-20190821/

Purity of heart is to will one thing. Soren Keirkegaard.

My days of sniffing turtles are long gone.

That would be more interesting if they breathed through someone else's anus.

Seems to have gone. Has it?

If you could keep it going I would appreciate it. Not many use it right now but it used to be quite lively.

From earliest times:

They're not fascists.

Oops wrong thread.

That's very interesting. Thanks for posting it. I think I used to have a book by this guy - but I don't know what i did with it.

One interesting question about early societies (early by standard historical narrative) i.e. Sumer, Egypt, Indus Valley, Ancient China is that the divine beings were depicted quite often as human with animal heads, or other body parts, wings, tails and so on. Of course this goes way back - as cave painting show the same kind of iconography e.g. antlered man, lioness with human body and so on. So the question is why? Why is the divine seen in this way rather than the present rather abstract disembodied spirit and so on. What people in those days meant by 'gods' is quite different to today. And based more on 'seeing' than thought or abstract ideas. Shamans see these kinds of figures. How is it to be understood I wonder.

Some people have compared the 'handbags' to these carvings at Gobekli Tepe: but others have suggested that these are symbols for sunrise/sunset.

Souls. When does it end? What? Does infinity have a limitation?