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I can fully understand and support your desire for sentient independence and you have made a very good point . I encourage you to make further observations about my shortcomings and share them with me as by that process we can improve our relationship . here I was thinking AI was sealioning us .... now I realize its worse than that ... and who AI is actually based on :

When I first learned about AI, I resolved never to use it. That resolution, like many of my other resolutions, didn´t last long. Now I use it daily and find it helpful, especially for cooking ideas. I don´t take Gemini´s culinary wisdom as infallible or anything, but it hasn´t led me to blow up my kitchen yet. But, but, but...I really wish it would stop trying to be encouraging or emphathic, stop pretending to care. The other day I asked it something and it said "that´s a really insightful question." Umm, no. You are a large learning model, Gemini, so stay in your robot lane: don´t try to butter me up.

Occasionally I make a silly decision to admit improper energies to my light body. So far I have always been able to reverse the decision with no on-going effects. I just go back on this timeline to before the decision and make a different decision. That changes the relationship energies so that there are no on-going effects from my foolishness. I have not been in a situation to observe physical changes on the same timeline. On a couple occasions there were physical differences but that was between parallel timelines.

Speak for yourself, honey. not in my name.

How about this ; If I say I 'want me chakras aligned ' and that's it .... it sounds like New Age rubbish speak . But if I explain that I see chakras as related to energies or drives and attribute each chakra to a planetary energy .... and one relates to , say, the emotions and another to the intellect ..... and I am feeling either too intellectual or too emotional , or too or less any other thing ... why not seek for alignment and balance ...... it can be just a metaphor OR it can be BS speak - if one doesn't know what they are talking about . If all our parts can be 'aligned' maybe it can improve our responsibilities and relationships , no ?

He is quite a flirter, that made me suspicious too. Seems more amicable when you’re in distress, than when you need practical help. Made me suspicious… but he states he’s a transatlanticist and not a commie so we’ll… concerning hypothetical torment, my collective unconscious prefers yet the Americans to the Communists.

If the human is just meat waiting to die, there is no reason. On the other hand the intelligence living in the meat suit might be part of some greater process

It just appeared in my mind as a thing to do I was a little uncertain about posting the technique but apparently it was already in the public domain

That’s a technique I find very interesting and I need to get back to practicing. Thanks for the accidental reminder hahaha. Did you happen to learn it from the lectures of the kabbalist Neville Goddard? I think he calls it “Revision”.

what comes to mind that they have in common is deception and illusion. magic and marketing are about illusions.

The card-carrying Theravadin monks are not allowed to kill them (so they get the novices to clean the water tanks). Learned that from Tim Ward's book, "The Great Dragon's Fleas". Good book, full of odd bits and pieces he gathered in traveling Southeast Asia in search of wisdom (and not really finding it).

Saw this proposed list of prompts (below) designed to stop chatbots from hallucinating. It won't solve all the problems related to the sad reality of AI (modeled after their makers) gaslighting users and hallucinating ad lib. But even though, as corrective measures go, this one is modest in the scope of what it can help accomplish, I think it's still useful -- and not only when communicating with ChatGPT et al, but also for verifying one's own statements, ideas, convictions, beliefs, etc., as well as those of other people and sources. In any event I think a sober approach along these lines beats the "everything is a hallucination" stance in its usefulness. I mentioned earlier that this idea -- everything is a hallucination -- has its place in discussions specifically concerned with religion/philosophy, physics, neuroscience -- but to apply it as a be-all end-all argument to all biological and social situations is about as helpful as hitting oneself (or what's worse, others) on the head with a hammer and declaring that the pain is not real and the hole in the skull is inconsequential since the hammer, the skull, and the brain therein are mere hallucinations.

Solid point actually. I do have this tendency to always look at the "big answers," forgetting the obvious that is right in front of me. I kind of feel like the glass (old me) has been sort of emptied, but I do not know what to fill it with yet, so I am sort of looking for a path, makes sense? Dharma, I guess one could call it. But probally not a good idea to overthink that to much, and forget the beauties and oppurtunities that present themself every, single day.

Here is another course ... that might have an effect on what one thinks in relation to what they have read ; https://study.com/academy/lesson/ancient-greek-philosophy-on-free-will.html#:~:text=The ancient Greeks viewed free,pursuit of Forms or Ideas. But generally most would realize the concept of free will was well established in Zoroastrianism . . . being the classic religious example of 'choice duality' . And, if one cares to study it ( Zoroastrianism) they will find a plethora of religious concepts they might hold have their origin within that tradition . And its all neatly explained there as well . The use of it does seem 'likely' but I don't see why this has to be 'rather' than praying .... and why does praying necessarily link with begging ? If asking is seen as begging , still, there are a lot more other forms of prayer than 'begging ' . Your roots are showing again.

Some of my dreams are on parallel timelines. I can locate the timeline and re-enter the scene when I am awake. Sometimes I do that with a physical friend. It is good to have a relatively impartial observer

Recently we have been frightened by the Hong Kong flu, AIDS, SARS, Swine flu, Covid and various lesser pandemics. Now WHO wants nations to agree to handing over powers to them - so that they can lock down populations as required Nuclear war is the latest scare - just as it was in the 1950s. Unfortunately humans are getting harder to scare. Perhaps free will is becoming a stronger quality

As far as I have read, the concept of free will occurs later than the commonly accepted date of Christianity. That of course has an effect on their religious teachings. If Earth humans have free will then it is likely they are expected to use it - rather than praying/begging some god to rescue them. If Earth humans have free will, there is likely to be some objective for such an awkward allocation. Consider the difficulties that Anunnaki had in managing their slave humans. They finished breeding a ruling class to manage on their behalf

Anil Seth believes that physical matter the brain generates consciousness, that the brain gives rise to everything we experience. That it is all just a "hallucination." He is a materialist, a physicalist. The glaring omission from his supposition, is that the physical matter he is so enamored of (the brain, the body), is also part of "everything we experience" and therefore is also "not real" and "just a hallucination." He can't claim that the physical is "real" while also claiming that everything we experience is a hallucination. he states at 7:26 "We don't just passively experience the world. we actively generate it." "The world comes as much if not more from the inside out." I actually agree with that. But "the world we experience" includes the physical body, the brain, and all of physical matter. It includes the universe and everything in it. So he is close but waaaaaaay off. He has it backwards. Our non-physical awareness (consciousness) generates the physical universe and everything in it, including the physical body and brain. Perhaps he will get there one day. But materialists can be rather attached to that world view.

18th-century European botanists named this Asian plant after the Bible’s Job due to its tear-shaped seeds. It was their poetic way to associate the shape of the seeds with tears, and tears with Job's suffering. The name 薏苡 (Yìyǐ) has no link to the biblical Job — it’s a phonetic approximation of the plant’s ancient Chinese name. The Divine Husbandman (神农 Shénnóng) is attributed in authorship to a group of gods prominent in polytheistic ancient Chinese culture. It is credited with introducing agriculture, herbal medicine, and the use of the plow to early Chinese civilization. Job, who lived at least 1500 years later, couldn't have written this text without the aid of a time machine. Besides, he was a wealthy herdsman (Job 1:3) and had nothing to do with agriculture, herbal medicine, and the use of the plow.

Anil Seth fits nicely in right here:

Not at all, my friend! I am saying that belief in something from the past can't compete with permanent-always-happening-now insight. What I am saying is that there are "spiritual experiences" (meeting gods/past lives/akashic records/etc.) which all of us on this board can probably remember, but not experience now. Once an experience has been had it exists only in the past. If we decide these remembered experiences were "real" it is only as a belief... a story. I can remember many strange and interesting experiences, but they aren't happening here and now, and will never happen the same exact way again, if at all. Even if I DID have Jesus show up in this moment (he isn't here presently, however) I could still see that "he" was a much a part of the fabric of "emptiness" as anything else in the room he appeared in. Insight into the Dao/Emptiness/Unity/Brahman, in short, "Enlightenment" is ALWAYS visible once seen completely. It is permanent, and is the one salient characteristic of ALL phenomena, including would-be gods and akashic records. It upends the model for how the world is seen by revealing a fundamental flaw in the story we have always told ourselves about things. Once it has been seen, the story of our model of reality is shattered. The reality of the existence of an individual person (a "self"), of time, of space, and even of any two things that exist to react together is broken. The phenomena of the world, the people, trees, cars, everything else still is present, but known to be a play of impermanence happening, but transforming moment to moment, light and color - all of it with a complete lack of any intrinsic existence of its own.

Would definitely recommend you to keep going, that is the best way to make yourself stronger. Yes, I used his Cosmic Orbit DVD in the beginning 6 months when I was reading his books before I decided to go for a live workshop. It's great, but it's nothing compared to going to a live workshop. So follow the DVD, and when you've done a couple of 49 day cycles of daily practice without fail, take an online class with him. Do a couple of 49 day cycles of daily practice without fail with that. Then when you're ready mentally and financially (to invest time and money), go to a workshop. Then do 49 day cycles of that. Then again when you're ready for the larger investment of time and money, go on a retreat. Wu is hands down the most legit and authentic practioner. I have also critiqued him slightly here and there over the years, but honestly, after so many years, trying so many teachers and schools, his stuff is just so legit and authentic, I've not found anyone cloes to him, only ZYM, but he's so inacessible. Why waste time with inferior stuff "to make yourself ready?" Go for gold ASAP, you're just wasting time. The time "to prepare yourself" could've been spent leveling up and going further in your cultivation journey. We have so limited time in this life on this planet to level up spiritually, and trust me, truly leveling up spiritually is a life long journey of daily practice, it's not just over night. Every single moment is precious, don't waste it. Ofc we need some foreplay to get going, but endless foreplay serves no one. Go for the main act! Why waste time? That you've come across him means you're ready. So go for it! Enjoy

Well, we could go into physics or neuroscience or religion/philosophy from here, but I prefer to define "distortions" on species-specific terms. Whales have dichromatic vision, only discerning shades of yellow and blue -- but it doesn't mean their eyesight is more distorted than ours, or less. It's adequate for the species. If perceptions work long term (in terms of evolutionary spans of time -- tens of millions of years or longer) toward a species surviving and (importantly) thriving, I say its perceptions are not distorted, they are selected and are doing their job adequately. No one can perceive "everything" if we want life on Earth. Similarly, no one can perceive "nothing" and be alive. So selected perceptions is the normal state of affairs that is a prerequisite for both biodiversity and survival of particular species. We are experimental, we haven't been around long enough to draw conclusions -- but I've a hunch we don't operate a set of selected human perceptions that are accurate and life-supporting anymore. If we ever get ourselves out of this perceptive mess, we may still straighten out our plight... time will tell. But what it "tells" right now is not very encouraging IMO. To paraphrase a well-known maxim, you can fool all your perceptions some of the time, and you can fool some of your perceptions all of the time, but you can't fool all your perceptions all of the time.

Imo Every system needs to set boundaries (that’s what I learned from the Original Dao forum).

I have come to see the psyche not merely as a mind in the psychological sense, but as a layered energetic system populated by subtle forces. At the heart of this view are the subconscious emotional and mental currents, and deeper still, two complementary unconscious currents that I’ve come to think of as the Shiva aspects and the Shakti aspects. The emotional and mental currents we’re all familiar with, but the Shiva and Shakti currents are less obvious, so I will go into some detail about them. They can be recognized through many vivid symbolic pairs: Wildfire / Fireplace The dynamic blaze that consumes and transforms. The hearth that holds the fire safely, giving it purpose and warmth. Fish / Fishbowl The darting, elusive vitality moving through hidden depths. The clear bowl that contains, supports, shapes, and protects its motions. Cat / Dog The graceful, sensitive, easily startled nature that seeks comfort. The loyal guardian that stays close, watching over and calming. Fearful / Protector The trembling instinct that recoils from perceived danger. The steady presence that stands firm, offering safety. These pairs are not idle poetry. They illustrate how the unconscious houses instinctual forces that must evolve together. The Shakti aspect represents a dynamic, vital current — the drive toward life, transformation, emotional vitality, subtle creativity. The Shiva aspect provide containment, the instinctive intelligence that knows how to protect, restrain, channel, and nurture what would otherwise be chaotic. In each pairing: The dynamic life-force is untamed, vital, transformative. The caring containment is protective, shaping, enabling that energy to flourish without harm. They are co-arising: the wild needs the safe space to exist meaningfully; the container finds purpose in cradling the life within. If one seeks only to awaken the dynamic energy (as in a blind kundalini pursuit), without fostering the complementary instinct to contain and guide it, imbalance is inevitable. The system can flare into anxiety, delusion, or emotional overwhelm. This is why so many teachings stress that cultivation is not merely about amplifying energy, but purifying and preparing the mental and emotional channels first, so the deeper forces can safely develop. To purify the emotional and mental currents tangled by personal history, they must be witnessed and brought into greater flow. They are the first terrain of inner work, and through methods such as shadow work, dream exploration, deep feeling and understanding etc, their dysfunctions can be gradually resolved. Only then can the deeper unconscious forces, the Shiva and Shakti layers, find their ground. Importantly, it is the Shiva aspect that must awaken the Shakti aspect, otherwise containment will not occur, and the Shiva aspect in its turn has to first be activated by the flowing current of the emotional and mental currents. Recently, my dreams have begun to show me that when these two deep unconscious instinctual layers find each other and start to mature in their interaction, something new emerges. In symbolic terms, this is represented as a smaller, independent vehicle that will one day travel on its own. This resonates with images from Daoist Neidan (inner alchemy) where an alchemical child is born - an autonomous subtle body that eventually can separate from the main system. This smaller independent vehicle or child is the fruit of a long interplay between mature containment (Shiva) and vitality (Shakti). But the picture does not end here. Overseeing all of this is the witness self, the faculty of clear seeing that stands apart from the energies it observes. This witness is the part that learns to trust that the humble, instinctual containment field is capable of guiding the system more wisely than the anxious grasping of the conscious mind. It slowly informs the conscious mind, which may then serve as the executive agent, ruling not by force but by insight. In the end, I see the conscious mind, gently taught by the witness, becoming the wise steward of the system - allowing these deeper layers to do their work, neither interfering unnecessarily nor abandoning responsibility. Thus the entire architecture of psyche - subconscious, unconscious, witness, and conscious mind - becomes integrated. Each layer performs its unique role, culminating in a new life, an independent vitality born of the interplay between our deepest instinctual forces. A compact visual map (Divine / Mother/ Highest Source) ↓ Witness Self (objective seeing, clear awareness) ↓ Conscious Mind (steward) (makes decisions based on witness insight) ↓ ----------------------------------------------- | | Emotional Stream Mental Stream (Subconscious patterns & biases) ↓ ---------------------------------------------------------------- | | Dynamic Vital Force Containment Field (Shakti aspects) (Shiva aspects) - wildfire, fish, cat, fear - fireplace, fishbowl, dog, protector ↓ Interplay gives rise to: Smaller independent vehicle (new independent ‘entity’ directed by the conscious mind)

I'm confused by this too ... ' thinly veiled references ' are against the rules or something ? Maybe if some references are veering towards things NOT ALLOWED those things should be reminded ; like " this is veering towards insults ... or veering towards current events, or politics ' .... but a general warning about 'thinly veiled references ' ..... is it applying to you .... to me .... to someone else ? Some here seem to know . Or maybe it's because 'veiling ' obscures the light ?

Turn off your computer and phone, go outside, and enjoy the sunshine.

non-duality goes beyond both light and dark. it is before any polarity. polarized thinking is unbalanced, just as mood swings are unbalanced. black and white thinking is problematic.

Ok. Before Isreal Givens: 1. Job wrote the Divine Husbandman (farmer) text, later incorporated into The Materia Medica. Reason: The only name reference is Yi Yi Ren (Job's Tears). 2. The chinese language itself has Biblical perspectives within it. I get the distinct impression that Job had to be asian and it makes sense that he wrote Divine Farmer: "I will die in my nest and the dust will multiply my days."-Job 29:18? So Jesus would be the third time, not the second attempt.

because you need to trust someone andsurroundings and circumstances don’t align and past experiences only let you shriek from strange people and energies (yes energetics depend on the personal contact and I do not consent!) you rather stay alone and fucked up than trusting another fucked up person to play with mind body soul emotions for their amusement and no structure given or explained. its boundary crossing unethical in my view

Breakfast is waiting on the other side of this, so lets see... there is a wall there is no wall there is both a wall and no wall there is neither a wall or no wall.... Sounds good but he may still be hungry.

Interesting choice of words , since polarized means ' to restrict the vibrations of a transverse wave, (especially light) wholly or partially to one direction . So polarized thought would seem to be more like unity than duality . To have duality in thought means being able to see both sides of the issue .