Daemon

When an operation, no matter of what sort, is brought to a close at the right moment, the stoppage does it no harm and the agent herself is no worse for discontinuing her action. So, if life itself (which is nothing but the totality of our operations) also ceases when the time comes, it takes no hurt by its mere. cessation, nor is she adversely affected who thus brings the whole series of her operations to its timely conclusion. But the proper hour and term are fixed by nature: if not by a human's own nature (as for example by old age) then at all events by great Nature herself, by whose continuous renewing of her every part the Universe remains forever young and vigorous. Whatever serves the purpose of the Whole is kept forever young and blossoming. - Marcus Aurelius - ☮️

Sounds interesting. Which forum? ☮️

@3bob I'd like to encourage you get on with frying the rather tantalising fish that you previously published, as I feel that might help to dispel the somewhat disagreeable odour of self-basting goose, which continues to permeate this topic. ☮️

@neti neti Haven't you yet realised that what you're saying means that those who've not had this experience themselves cannot even begin to resonate with what you're obviously never going to be able to convey via words? The opening verses of the Vijnanabhairava tantra, with which you seem to have a passing familiarity, make it clear that all this mere philosophising is a pointless exercise. Does that make sense to you? ☮️

This will probably require real world intervention. Where are you located? ☮️

Returning to the issue of the semi-private, semi-personal hidden members only areas here. Having just read that one of the members seems to have gone on tilt and is pulling the plug on this bulletin board to set up his own website (as an alternative) because it seems that he was unable to pressure the moderators to suppress supposedly proprietary information published by one of his competitors, I'm moved to share my opinion that hosting your own website/blog is one of the easiest ways to circumvent the hierarchy on this bulletin board rather than by hiding in one of the hidden personal forums here. However, it's perhaps a reflection of someone's own competence (or lack thereof) if they're actually unable to function in this environment without having to resort to censoring others opinions (especially if they're claiming to be a competent martial artist)? I'm also at a loss to understand why anyone settles solely for the inherent constraints and the very limited clientele of this bulletin board instead of hosting their own website if they feel that they have something worthwhile to say that cannot (or should not) be published openly on this bulletin board. Of course, there's nothing that anyone can do to hide these supposedly secret systems nowadays, so even had this person censored that information and opinion here, it would still have been freely available elsewhere. ☮️

I feel that's a great answer, especially as you then explained it. ☮️

Are you saying that dependent origination has a beginning and an ending? ☮️

You might be misunderstanding the theory of dependent origination. On the other hand, I might be misunderstanding it myself. ☮️

It's occurred to me that it might be of interest and of value to some people as a starting point for (possibly silent) reflection. ☮️

It's occurred to me that it might be of interest and of value to some people as a starting point for (possibly silent) reflection. ☮️

Like dependent origination? ☮️

Really? Maybe you (or someone else) can explain why it's fundamentally necessary to view the concept of Brahman as God instead of viewing it as consciousness? ☮️

It's infinitely more sophisticated and nuanced than that. But, as it's 3bob's fish to fry, I'll leave it there. ☮️

Perhaps best to let 3bob explain what it means to him, as he posted it? ☮️