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Wait, ... you go back in time? (can you really time travel?) And step into the dream again and do experiments to test your hypotheses? Sometimes you do that with a friend watching the scene IN the dream? That is one heck of a friend to be able to watch the scene in your dream. Sorry, just about everything you said in that posts makes me wonder why I can't go back in time and have my friend watch me in my dreams. What is wrong with me?? Sterling said, "But when you finally woke up you would dismiss them outright." So time travel to the past isn't possible?? LOL
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Goes to show even being a super string meditator is not the answer.
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Discovering Internal Principles Through Embodied Practice
ChiDragon replied to TaiChiGringo's topic in Daoist Discussion
The nervous system and fascia are actively engaged and sensing the unfolding patterns. At this point, you have gone into the next higher level of fajin(ē¼å), It is to sense someone's internal strength by Ting Jin(å¬å). I think it's about time having someone leading us into the most subtle subject in Taiji. I think you are knowledgeable about the subject. Would you like to have the pleasure to go into that? Thanks! -
Remember Buddha Boy? An update about him: Ram Bahadur Bomjon Please refer to the "Legal issues" section.
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Discovering Internal Principles Through Embodied Practice
TaiChiGringo replied to TaiChiGringo's topic in Daoist Discussion
Haha, agreed Generally simplicity carries more truth than endless layers of method and theory. And for me in my Taiji journey, the practice feels simpler and simpler the further I go. So in my understanding, the purpose of the methods isnāt complexity for its own sake, but to create the framework that allows one to discover that simplicity firsthand. -
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TaiChiGringo replied to TaiChiGringo's topic in Daoist Discussion
Yes I absolutely agree. In Tai Chi, we are totally dependent on a good teacher to guide alignment, structure, and help us get a 'taste' of the feeling. But at the same time, the practice is deeply interoceptive, so real development ultimately depends on ourselves. Without diligent, self-directed exploration, the guidance remains external, and the body cannot register the subtle sensations that drive more advanced progress. True discovery happens when the nervous system and fascia are actively engaged and sensing the unfolding patterns, not just when instructions are repeated or acknowledged intellectually.- 29 replies
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Lairg probably doesn't though . Dreams seem connected to many drives of the psyche , including desires .
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Choose your mountain wisely then .... ^ ' Firehorse Mountain ' .
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Usually I go back in time and step into the dream again and do experiments to test my hypotheses. Sometimes I do that with a friend watching the scene in the dream.
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I tend to test before committing fully
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Sometimes it takes a stranger to point out something is wrong. It just takes a bigger/humble person to be able to accept good advice.
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Discovering Internal Principles Through Embodied Practice
TaiChiGringo replied to TaiChiGringo's topic in Daoist Discussion
I think I broadly agree with your diagnosis of the problem, but Iād frame the Peng / Song part differently. Peng is indeed one of the jins, but itās also the structural condition that makes all jin possible. In that sense, Taijiquan can be thought of as Peng Jin Quan (Wang Haijun says this, not my line). And Song is foundational to Peng. So yes, you can distill Taiji down to Peng and Song, or even ultimately just Peng, but only if Peng is understood as a living, trained structural state, not a conceptual checkbox. The problem isnāt distillation per se. The problem is distillation without embodiment. What youāre pointing at with āmethodology beats principlesā is spot on: many people treat principles as if they were instructions, rather than outcomes of a long developmental process. They think āunderstand Pengā replaces building Peng. In my experience, the other jins arenāt discarded because theyāre unimportant, they disappear because without sufficient Peng, they canāt actually be expressed. Tsai, Lie, Zhou, Kao arenāt separate techniques you āadd onā; theyāre directional expressions of Peng under pressure, timing, and intent. So Iād say: Methodology creates the container The container allows Peng to emerge Peng then differentiates naturally into the other jins Where things go wrong is when people try to shortcut that process by collapsing everything into ever-more abstract language, instead of doing the long, unglamorous work of forging the body. In that sense, I donāt disagree with you, I just donāt think the issue is ātoo much Peng/Songā, but too little actual Peng being trained. There's a good article about the foundational principles (that must be forged through method!) by Wang Haijun: https://taiji-forum.com/tai-chi-taiji/basics/5-most-important-beginner-s-skills/ Relevant quote to this topic: "Chen Fake taught that there are two types of peng jin. The first is the fundamental skill or strength of taijiquan. The second is one of the eight commonly recognized taijiquan jins, (peng, lu, ji, an, cai, lieh, zhou & kao.) The first type of peng is the core element that is the foundation of these eight commonly recognized skills. It is perhaps best considered in English as a separate term from the peng that is listed as one of these eight skills. All eight jins have their basis in peng that is the fundamental skill." -
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ChiDragon replied to TaiChiGringo's topic in Daoist Discussion
The ba jin(å «å) is not coming out of nowhere. The reason they were called ba jin was for a reason. The ba jin are the 8 methods to fajin(ē¼å) at their most efficient and effectively. They were particularly depicted from the whole set of Taiji movements. They are the best methods to exert the body strength that are called jin. It is not anyone can executed such force. It requires long diligent practice to condition the body to do so. Thus only masters at highest level and at best to be performed such methods. It happens to be that peng appears in most of the 8 methods. The other 7 are not ignored. It is only a matter of gesture in performing the fajin methods. -
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Lairg replied to TaiChiGringo's topic in Daoist Discussion
As above, so below. As below, so above. My experience is that emotional and mental intelligences also manifest the principles of inner unfolding -
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SodaChanh replied to TaiChiGringo's topic in Daoist Discussion
Of course, they are people, so they are per definition nuts š The opposite is happening in Buddhism where they add and add methods, descriptions etc etc all the time so they lost the essence and groundedness of truth which was simple back in the days. Maybe Truth should be learned from a simple farmer and Taijiquan only learned from veteran bad ass fighter. - Yesterday
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Always happy to disagree with you. Thatās great, I am very happy for you.
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Beside using a good dictionary, you also need someone who speak the language to explain the true context for you. Otherwise, you are still working in the blind. One day, I had dropped by a Chinese book store. I picked a book with the title of "A complete guide of Chi-Gung(ę°£å)" by Daniel Reid. He is an Englishman. His Chinese father-in-law introduced Chi-gung to him. So, he practiced and decided to write a book about it in English. He wrote the book with the help of many knowledgeable Chi-Gung masters in Taiwan. Especially, his wife, for her astute assistance interpreting esoteris Chinese materials. I was reading his book as I am reading it in Chinese. It seems that everything is flowing in my mind as I knew it already.
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Up in the mountain is a better place for seclusion!
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Aren't lucky you didn't!? I tried that too, but didn't have the courage! How come this time you become so wise?
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That has been my life's plan .... and I have mostly achieved it . I am grateful for the above image , as, due to this thread;s title , I was thinking ' Oh Gawd .... he isnt going to post a picture of that is he ? !
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(May have posted this before, sorry it may not apply to struggling or younger folks )
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So ..... Chi Dragon does not go to the desert ?
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These three are not the same: å¤ę (gu3 wen2) Classical Chinese ; ęčØę (wen2 yan2 wen2) Literary Chinese ; ę®éčÆ (pu3 tong1 hua4) Mandarin. Most sinologists use the words Classical and Literary for different periods (pre/post Han).
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