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#1 spiraltao

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Posted 21 September 2011 - 07:46 PM

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Ok, I must start this story in 2008, I was diagnosed with a liver disease that I don't care to name and the last stage of cirrohsis. The doctors done two different biopsi, but told me my liver was already too bad to take interfuron/riboviran combo. So I decide to go back to what had helped me get through the toughest times of my life, MARTIAL ARTS.

My old sifu had moved back after seventeen years and I seen him on youtube, so I called and told him my situation. I remember telling him "I am at rock bottom, teacher." He said, "THAT IS WONDERFUL! There is only one way to go and that is UP." This gave me some hope.

He introduced me to circle walking. I started to feel a bit less lethargic and my anger issues began to subside. I kept getting hepatic panels ran on a monthly basis and my enzymes and billirubin levels began to drop. The doctor at the University of KY told me that my liver tests would NEVER be normal again. He said that I might be able to lower them, but would never read as a healthy liver.

To make a long story a bit less long, I stuck to my training. I learned the eight mother palms and my inside and outside changes. In Feb I met Zerostao and he introduced me to some bagua qigong. Until this I had only been doing ZZ standing as chi kung. Zerostao introduced me to the iron shirt form and the single and double palm changes among other things that I have covered in my training log.

I made sure to play my bagua every day and actually think I know what song means!

Well, fast forward to last Friday, I had another hepatic panel done.


My sister is a AARNP (nursing practitioner) and she simply couldn't believe what she seen. She at first thought that my labs had gotten mixed up. They were the labs of a man with a healthy liver!!!!!!!!!!!!! YES! I NOW HAVE THE PROOF IN BLACK AND WHITE!

I AM PROOF THAT CHI KUNG IS REAL AND IT WORKS! I never had any doubt, but others were skeptical in the family but being that kung fu has been a passion of mine since I was four they were used to the combat part, but had never heard of learning to fight to improve your health, as my dad puts it.



THIS POST GOES OUT TO THE EVERY TAO BUM THAT HAS HELPED ME. ...and to Zerostao for leading me to this wonderful place. I feel at home now.

I can do ANYTHING with proper guidance and this is only the beginning. Where as before I really wondered if I would live to see my daughter graduate high school.

I am not being arrogant, but I feel better than I have since I was in my early twenties and I just slapped a cap block with no warm up to see if my metal element was still in order. Yeah, it broke with ease and my friend said the slap looked nearly effortless.


There is no way to hide my excitement and express the joy in my heart with words.

I must thank my god, my sifu, Zerostao, Lao Xie, Ray Carbullido, Kent Howard, Kenneth Cohen and Dr. Yang Jwing Ming and Master Liang Shou Yu. Not mention Frank Allen. Each person listed above played a pivotal role in my transformation.
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Posted 21 September 2011 - 09:17 PM

Jay, you just put a big juicy smile on my face :D
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#3 spiraltao

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Posted 22 September 2011 - 01:04 AM

Thanks, Oldgreen.

I am happy that someone read my post!

So much love here, so many good feelings, so little chi kung for so much happiness.
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Posted 22 September 2011 - 01:38 AM

Nice post, congrats on your recovery. I didn't know Bagua had those sorts of healing capabilities I thought it was more martial, I might check it out.

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Posted 22 September 2011 - 02:12 AM

Nice post, congrats on your recovery. I didn't know Bagua had those sorts of healing capabilities I thought it was more martial, I might check it out.


First off, thanks!

I my opine, baguazhang is a qigong in itself. Virtually every posture could be held as a stand alone qigong! Each movement when done correctly activates certain points via twisting and turning to achieve better health. Grandmaster Rick Pickens said this, "One thing I am sure of, circle walking will make you live longer!"



Don't get me wrong, I do believe Zhan Zhuang played a big role as well, I highly recommend Lam Kam Chuen's book Chi Kung The Way of Power. ...or one could check out his series, "Stand Still, Be Fit" on youtube, just search for the phrase in quotations.

I feel like a living ad for bagua. I have yet to use it for combat and sure hope that I never have to. I learned with wing chun that one has to understand the art in a realistic fashion, as applied to one's self to be successful. ...my sifu said if one doubts their technique than they are already doomed. However, if one has confidence in their techniques then they will most likely be executed properly (the teks, not the opponent, lol). Bagua is the most lethal style I have ever seen.
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Posted 22 September 2011 - 02:44 AM

How does Bagua influence your emotions? Can it help integrate your emotional body and help you open up and face hidden emotions? One of my fears about doing any martial approach is that it that it will make me hard rather than soft, as I think the real core strength is if it makes you softer and more open rather than tougher and more rigid.

I have heard mentioned by Bruce Frantzis that there is fighting Bagua and there is spiritual Bagua I wonder if both have the same outcome and what their differences are, does anyone know?

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Posted 22 September 2011 - 02:54 AM

Good stuff Jay, very glad you have gotten so much benefit from your efforts :) /\

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Posted 22 September 2011 - 02:59 AM

BRAVO!!

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Walk your talk or close your mouth.

Don't whine, just do your best.

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Posted 22 September 2011 - 03:47 AM

What a peace of mind you have just been given. -_- May you live long and prosper! Thanks for sharing. :wub:

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Posted 22 September 2011 - 04:22 AM

oh yeah that made my morning

i am so glad for you jaysahnztao! bless you and your liver with a long happy life

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Posted 22 September 2011 - 06:26 AM

:) :) :) :) :)
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#12 spiraltao

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Posted 22 September 2011 - 06:43 AM

How does Bagua influence your emotions? Can it help integrate your emotional body and help you open up and face hidden emotions? One of my fears about doing any martial approach is that it that it will make me hard rather than soft, as I think the real core strength is if it makes you softer and more open rather than tougher and more rigid.

I have heard mentioned by Bruce Frantzis that there is fighting Bagua and there is spiritual Bagua I wonder if both have the same outcome and what their differences are, does anyone know?


Well in my opinion, they can be one in the same. As far as I know baguazhang is the only strictly Taoist martial art know to us here in the west.

It sounds like bagua is just what u need, jetsun. Bagua uses both the yin and the yang to achieve first, a physical balance, then one takes it to a spiritual level. The circle walking in itself is a meditation and longevity exercise. Zerostao said that Lao Xie advised keeping a journal once you begin your circle walking. That is where the transformation begins.

Bagua defies rigidness, it adapts and yields to the opponent. It will not make you hard! It will open your heart! As for facing hidden or deep seated emotions, I can only say it helped me on that end.

The great thing about the baguazhang is if one just learns, say, an iron shirt form. ...and is instructed on how to do the movements correctly; then you will get stronger bones, better flexibility and a more calm mind. This is without ever learning the combat applications, although this wouldn't really be learning baguazhang, but qigong in my opinion.

Check out some of Lao Xie's (Chris Matsuo) dvds from Dragon Gate Sanctuary. If you can't afford them, check out every single clip as there is a whole lot to learn there alone. Same with Erle Montagu (bless his kind soul).

If price is an issue, check out baguaman8 on youtube. Its Kent Howard, he is as a master should be, humble and earnest. He explains some very important concepts in regards to how yin/yang relates to the baguazhang movement.s

I hope this helped. Baguazhang can and will lead to transformation!



Heaven palm poem
"The essence of life is a circle
The essence of a circle is impermanance
the essence of impermanance is change
The essence of change is Transformation"
Exerpt from Dvd Title : Heart of bagua dragongatesanctuary.com
Grandmaster Lao xie Christopher Lee Matsuo
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Posted 22 September 2011 - 06:47 AM

:) :) :)

Good chi to you...

J, :)

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Posted 22 September 2011 - 06:50 AM

As far as I know baguazhang is the only strictly Taoist martial art know to us here in the west.

Hi J. :) I don't want to get off topic here, but I'd be curious (perhaps someone could start another thread) to delve into the veracity of your statement. (I do not know the history of baguazhang, but have been interested for some time.) :)

#15 spiraltao

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Posted 22 September 2011 - 06:50 AM

oops double post

Edited by jaysahnztao, 22 September 2011 - 06:53 AM.

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#16 spiraltao

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Posted 22 September 2011 - 06:52 AM

Below are links to some youtube videos that I eventually learned the techniques from. Hope this helps get u into BGZ, Jetsun.



Xie

Xie


Howard


Howard




@ RAINBOW VEIN

Hi J. :) I don't want to get off topic here, but I'd be curious (perhaps someone could start another thread) to delve into the veracity of your statement. (I do not know the history of baguazhang, but have been interested for some time.) :)


Sure thing, Rainbow! I will do some more research and ask some questions, as my knowledge is most likely not extensive enough. :D
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