Looking for help

[blue eyed snake]

1 hour ago, Master Solo said:

@blue eyed snake another post that is talking about male ejaculation. You got my last post locked due to not posing in the mens subforum then calling me a misogynist for leaving out women in the general discussion when talking about the male ejaculation. You should also do the same to this post otherwise I'll take that as you targeting me.

 

Seems you misunderstood the reason for closing that thread.

That post was denigrating to women and that is the reason it was locked. Misogyny is not tolerated on the daobums.

This guy is in need of help and asks for it. No trace of denigrating language towards women.

 

seems you feel attacked, but i do not target you

i target misogyny 

 

[The Biggest Nobody]

30 minutes ago, silent thunder said:

No one is targeting you MS, but your misguided message.

 

edit to add: As you have selected to target blue eyed snake here, you've been reported.  I suggest you be mindful of your continued contributions.

pinging him to this post is not targeting lol. But you do you, he's your bestie and i understand you want to back him up and that i am the bad guy.

[The Biggest Nobody]

22 minutes ago, blue eyed snake said:

seems you feel attacked, but i do not target you

i target misogyny 

To clarify why I pinged you to this post and another post, which im getting reported for which i find baffling lmao
Is not because of what the mod said regarding the "draining" part which has been made clear to be banned topic and i get that part.

It what you said to me, that all male topics is banned in general because it leaves out women from the discussion. You said this and the steve said this. I don't understand how posts like these are still up when it's also been made clear by you and the mod, that posts like these should be in the mens garden. So I pinged you because there are multiple posts talking about male sexuality in general.  

@steve shouldn't posts like these get locked as well? and shouldn't they be directed to mens garden? 

Edited February 2 by Master Solo

[blue eyed snake]

1 hour ago, Master Solo said:

To clarify why I pinged you to this post and another post, which im getting reported for which i find baffling lmao
Is not because of what the mod said regarding the "draining" part which has been made clear to be banned topic and i get that part.

It what you said to me, that all male topics is banned in general because it leaves out women from the discussion. You said this and the steve said this. I don't understand how posts like these are still up when it's also been made clear by you and the mod, that posts like these should be in the mens garden. So I pinged you because there are multiple posts talking about male sexuality in general.  

@steve shouldn't posts like these get locked as well? and shouldn't they be directed to mens garden? 

 

sigh

 

please first learn to read and understand.

 

I do not target you, you're uninteresting to me

I never said each and every post were male sexuality is part of the topic should be directed to the mens garden.

 

The only thing i did was telling you that misogyny is not tolerated here 

 

now you repeatedly tag me, accusing me of I dunno what really.

get a life

 

maybe read up on the golden rule,

will accommodate you one last time, that's Matthew 7:12

 

 

[silent thunder]

This topic is about Needhelp.

 

Time for the bullying to stop MS.

[Needhelp]

Thank you all for each of your contributions, I just want to clarify that women or anyone are most certainly able and encouraged to join in here if they please. I never said males were the only one able to give me advice as I listen to women for wisdom all the time irl. There's no need for this conflict here and I would really like this post to not be locked or deleted as I'm hoping to help others with the same issue. 

Edited February 2 by Needhelp

[blue eyed snake]

 

this thread won't be locked and the disturbance has nothing to do with you or the topic of the thread.

You're not the first and sadly won't be the last that comes here with problems like you described.

 

be welcome

 

[Maddie]

I would recommend seeing an acupuncturist. It sounds like you have created a lot of stagnation. 

[Needhelp]

30 minutes ago, Maddie said:

I would recommend seeing an acupuncturist. It sounds like you have created a lot of stagnation. 

I will look Into this also. Thank you

[Nungali]

On 2/1/2024 at 1:51 PM, Needhelp said:

Hello everyone. I see people have had this issue on here before but I can't seem to find any straight forward answers. 

 

Like most unaware beginners I first learned about non ejaculatory orgasms through mantak chia. I didn't know you should have a teacher so I read his first two books on the microcosmic orbit and cultivating male sexual energy. I thought that if I followed what was in the book there wouldn't be any consequences.

 

After about 3 years of solo practice I noticed that my ejaculation started to lower in amount until I got to the point where I'm at now where i can no longer have a normal healthy ejaculatory orsgasm. Little to no sperm and I can feel that my pelvic floor muscles have retarded or stopped firing during orgasm. I guess you could say I abused the practice and started getting very sloppy with the entire practice and focused on the solo practice itself.

 

I dont know what this mantak stuff teaches but IMO   NEO can be either with or without  pelvic floor muscles 'firing' .  In any case it is important too exercise them . Other problems can develop , eg in older life 'urination' .

 

I got given a list of various exercises due to  a damaged  gluteous minimus , each one require the exercise of the pelvic floor muscles as well as the area targeted in each exercise set .  I notice a marked improvement when I do them  (and no ejaculation required    during that      )

 

 

 

I'm fairly young as I'm 29 but I never had kids yet and I still really want to but this issues stops me from finding a mate because it's embarrassing. 

 

Does anyone know if this is permanent? From reading the forum I see the first step is to stop the practice entirely which I have but where do I go from here? If anyone has any advice or can atleast tell me this isn't a life sentence it would be very much appreciated.

 

I can tell people get tired hearing  beginners hurting themselves then wondering why something bad happened but I didn't know anybetter. I didn't think it would lead to this.

 

Thank you 

 

[steve]

On 2/2/2024 at 8:23 AM, Master Solo said:

To clarify why I pinged you to this post and another post, which im getting reported for which i find baffling lmao
Is not because of what the mod said regarding the "draining" part which has been made clear to be banned topic and i get that part.

It what you said to me, that all male topics is banned in general because it leaves out women from the discussion. You said this and the steve said this. I don't understand how posts like these are still up when it's also been made clear by you and the mod, that posts like these should be in the mens garden. So I pinged you because there are multiple posts talking about male sexuality in general.  

@steve shouldn't posts like these get locked as well? and shouldn't they be directed to mens garden? 

 

@Master Solo

 

Your thread was locked as a result of not only the content but the direction the thread was taking and the effect it was having on other members. I felt the topic you intended to discuss - warning male cultivators against masturbation - would be best served in the male cultivation area, particularly in light of the trajectory it was on.

 

This topic is different. It is an appeal to the membership for help regarding a problem encountered with questionable practices with which some here have experience. Members are offering useful suggestions and warm support, a beautiful thing to see. In my opinion, on this particular crisp and clear Saturday morning, this topic is best served in the general forum as anyone may have helpful input and benefit from reading the posts.

 

While some topics clearly belong in one area vs another, many are shades of gray. In those cases the moderators need to use their best judgment and we hope you, the members, recognize that we are flawed creatures volunteering our free time to try and create a collegial and balanced environment for discussion as best we can. Your cooperation and support are very much appreciated.

[snowymountains]

It's a medical issue, go to your doctor, they'll do what's needed and refer you to specialists if it's needed, they can also guide if needed on how to work with a physiotherapist or TCM practitioner.

 

A pathologist has spent 10 years studying and and another 10 practicing before they give qualified advice.

They'll be able to help infinitely more than all the mantak chias of this world and all the internet help you can get, though well intended it may be.

 

 

[Gerard]

Go seek TCM treatment to resolve all the stagnation you have. There are very effective HERBAL formulas available to clear damp-heat. 
 

Use only herbs not PILLS as they aren't effective. The TCM doctor will give you instructions about how to decoct the fresh herbs. 
 

DO NOT SELF-MEDICATE or you'll further aggravate the problem.

 

 

[ChiDragon]

His problem is a very serious one. He can only help himself by self discipline in practicing Qigong diligently.  IMO western medicine might be given him multiple side effects or might not even cure the problem. TCM medicines might work but the effectiveness is very slow.

Most of the discussions on the site and this forum were done macroscopically and superficial. Not much discussion were done microscopically. Is there any possibility to look into the matter microscopically. Such as looking into the human body cell level like cell respiration. How the mitochondria, inside the cells, generate and provide the energy for the organs to function properly. If one want to get to the bottom of this, the study of how the mitochondria work will be the answer for this thread. The cell respiration has four phases. Each phase should be study thoroughly to have a clear understand why abdominal breathing is so important. Hence, the issue of how it works will be resolved.

Edited February 4 by ChiDragon

[Gerard]

3 hours ago, ChiDragon said:

TCM medicines might work but the effectiveness is very slow.
 

An skilled herbalist with many years of experience will correct the problem. They are usually trained the traditional way: master to apprentice. Finding one is a daunting task.

 

I do wish the OP the best here. He screwed up completely his energetic system by learning wrong practices from books. 

Edited February 4 by Gerard

[Master Logray]

I think going to a western doctor is the 1st step.   They most likely cannot settle Qigong issues, but they can screen out some other problems, which can be COINCIDENTAL to the current condition, indirectly affecting it.  

 

Then the second step is disengagement - discontinue current practice and doing nothing.   As one of us said, it could have been merely overtrained.   Wait for 3-6 months and see if it helps.   This approach is frequently advised by many members.

 

After that, then try for some pelvic exercises as suggested by @Nungali.    The last resort would be taking up new Qigong systems.   But it has to be supervised by suitably experienced teachers.

[Needhelp]

"You must have depleted your kidney energy. Western medicine has no cure for that. Please see an acupuncturist and an herbalist to address your issue. Also, moving your lower dantian energy to your kidneys can significantly help. This is a practice introduced in the Sexual Alchemy class."

 

For anyone interested this is what mantak chia has replied with recently.