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Your Taoist/Buddhist friend wins the lottery and builds a small village in the Canadian Rockies.  

What is it like?  Who's there?  Off-grid?  Vegetarian?  How would you spend your day (besides raising food and practicing chi kung, of course)?

 

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Ah, if only.  

 

44 minutes ago, Encephalon said:

 

What is it like?  Who's there?  Off-grid?  Vegetarian?  How would you spend your day (besides raising food and practicing chi kung, of course)?

 

 

1. It is modeled on a tribal village somewhere where people still live like that.  E.g. this one in Svaneti, Georgia (the country):

 

Mestia and the Trails of Svaneti | Walking Holiday in Georgia

 

2. Who's there.  That's the tough part.  In some places, people who organize such communities interview all potential residents before allowing them to join.  So a set of expectations/requirements/desirable traits/unacceptable traits would have to be worked out by the founding mothers and fathers, and that would have to be brainstormed very thoroughly and agreed upon in advance.  I'm guessing most projects would fail at this stage.  (I know because I was part of such project at one point.)  Which is better than failing later due to hidden problems and interpersonal tensions that start popping up after the commitments have been made. 

 

3. Off grid would be ideal.

 

4.  No way.  Whoever wants to be a vegetarian for whatever reason can be a vegetarian.  Whoever wants this to be a requirement, expectation or preference ought to join a monastery of the corresponding denomination, not a village.

 

5. I would spend my free time foraging, fishing, hunting and making medicinal and tonic herbal remedies. 

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In Georgia from what I hear there are lots of jokes about people from Svaneti, casting them as particularly wild, tough, crazy, etc.

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1 hour ago, Encephalon said:

Your Taoist/Buddhist friend wins the lottery and builds a small village in the Canadian Rockies.  

What is it like?  Who's there?  Off-grid?  Vegetarian?  How would you spend your day (besides raising food and practicing chi kung, of course)?

 

 

I would hope for a council form of administration, and community of goods. From each according to ability, to each according to need. Artists, artisans, craftspeople who are willing to share their knowledge. A willingness to shelter those in distress. Off-grid or not would not be important to me, though this might depend on what shape society has taken around us. Vegetarian, no. I would spend my day writing probably- I would hope for a lot of artistic collaborations.  

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13 minutes ago, SirPalomides said:

In Georgia from what I hear there are lots of jokes about people from Svaneti, casting them as particularly wild, tough, crazy, etc.

 

That's not nice of them, but then, inferiority complexes play out as superiority stances all over the world.  The Svans are a pretty cool people from what I know, and have been for a very long time, they're ancient.  The Greek geographer and historian Strabo wrote that “the Svans are a powerful people and, I think, the most courageous and brave in the whole world. They are at peace with all neighboring nations.”  Pliny, Ptolemy, Appius, Eustathius of Thesalonia all wrote about hospitable, enlightened and strong Svans.  But modern history is the history of denigration of everybody by everybody... 

 

In any event, I didn't mean we would be Svans, I just have this idea that any village created as a retreat for the modern people who haven't lived a tribal life ever before is better off modeling its ways, or at the very least its architectural arrangements, on those of the people who maintained the traditional ways, to the extent possible.  I wouldn't want any high tech domes Buckminster Fuller or whatever else "futuristic" style slapped in the face of those mountains.  To say nothing of the horrible feng shui of most of them, there's also practical considerations -- e.g. it would be impossible to heat up any of those in winter without going high tech and on grid, or even to discourage spiders from having a ball on an unreachable ceiling.  To say nothing of many more features of the "theoretical" dwellings based on ideas rather than immersion experience that I would consider all-around idiotic, no matter how aesthetically appealing.       

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47 minutes ago, Taomeow said:

 

1. It is modeled on a tribal village somewhere where people still live like that.  E.g. this one in Svaneti, Georgia (the country):

 

Mestia and the Trails of Svaneti | Walking Holiday in Georgia

 

 

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Oh yeah, I wasn't trying to pile on the Svans. They are, I believe, stereotyped as examples of pure Georgian culture, untainted by the problems of modern civilization- this stereotyping can be both complimentary and insulting. You can see a similar role played by Bedouins in Arab culture, and cowboys in American culture, etc- depending on someone's mood, they can be admirable specimens of ruggedness and authenticity, or dangerous hicks. I suppose this kind of snobbery and stereotyping goes back to the first time anyone formed themselves into a village and looked back out at the newly minted outsiders.

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4 hours ago, Encephalon said:

Your Taoist/Buddhist friend wins the lottery and builds a small village in the Canadian Rockies.  

What is it like?  Who's there?  Off-grid?  Vegetarian?  How would you spend your day (besides raising food and practicing chi kung, of course)?

 


Good to see you back after a somewhat long hiatus!
 

In thinking about post-crash the first thing that comes to mind are the masses of desperate persons that will form roving gangs. Isolation does not in anyway afford protection from armed white supremacist gangs. 
 

Short growing season would be a real problem at higher elevations. I live at 7k ft elevation and it can be difficult if one has no experience. Cannabis requires a long flowering time beginning first day of summer which can be as long as three months. 

As Robert Heinlein put it, “specialization is for insects” which is a problem for most that have a specialized education and career. 
 

A well made knife is my best friend. Not razor sharp, but utilitarian  
 

Perform minor surgery which includes setting a broken bone. 
 

Sanitation. 
 

Deliver a baby. 
 

Build a house, walls etc. using materials at hand. 
 

Adapt to severe weather/cold and blizzards. 
 

CPR

 

Grow food without the use of chemicals/fertilizers and pesticides. 
 

Learn to deal with the forces of nature; mountain lions, grizzlies, rodents. I have been hiking in Wyoming in July when berries are ripe and grizzlies are feasting which was a scary experience. If anyone tells me that they aren’t scared in that scenario, they are lying! 

Use a compass without a map. 
 

Learn orienteering so as to not get lost. 
 

All the above are learned by experience and not some weekend or lengthy workshop. 
 

 

 


 

 

 

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What would I do ?   Hang out with this guy   ^  .

 

:)

 

reminds me of a joke :

 

A man asks a woman if she was going to be trapped on an island alone with one man,  indefinitely  , who would it be ?

 

"" John Wayne "

 

"Why him ?"

 

"Well, he is big and strong, can hunt and fish, chop firewood , fight off baddies and dangerous animals , is righteous and a gentleman  , defends the meek   ....  " 

 

Man;  " Hmmmm , come to think of it , I would choose John Wayne too . "

 

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Cut and pasted from my previous article, the following skill sets have been prioritized for "eco-villages" of all kinds, Taoist or otherwise.  I believe most architectural considerations will mandate extreme insulation, as we would want to reduce as much as possible energy expended on heating or AC.  Obviously, rammed-earth or underground design maximizes the most prevalent building material available. 


And, of course, humanure will prevail.  No way around this.  Gotta close that loop!

 

Passive solar design

Organic bio-intensive food production

Animal husbandry

Permaculture and aquaculture

Natural and preventive medicine as well as “ditch” medicine

Book-binding and printing

Low-cost short wave radio

Computer-free mathematics

 

(Greer, J.M. 2016)

 

Further specialization as defined by Lewis Dartnell for a post-industrial reboot included –

Clothing

Water power

Transportation

Advanced chemistry (biodiesel, hydroponics, medicines)

(Darnell, L., 2014)

https://www.amazon.com/Knowledge-Rebuild-Civilization-Aftermath-Cataclysm-ebook/dp/B00DMCV5YS/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=the+knowledge&qid=1589566534&sr=8-1

 

 

 

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