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16 hours ago, beachbum78 said:

 

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This picture will haunt me forever.

Seriously though, I'm not keen on the guy, his methods or his persona. A lot of theatrics with the mask etc. Of course his system is made up, tell me any system which hasn't been created by somebody at sometime. All systems are made up. There has to be a starting point. But just because you don't like his methods or you question the validity of his system, doesn't mean you have to constantly beat this drum. Just leave it, move on, and find something which you think has everything you need.

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3 hours ago, lifeforce said:

 

This picture will haunt me forever.

why ya hatin' on the luchador masks :lol:  simply put, he just chooses to keep his face hidden.  dont give away your energy ;)  he's like 56, absolutely shredded, powerlifts, can put his legs into lotus without using his hands, does splits up against the wall, he's got like f'n 37 inch quads.  eats once a day.  the dude is no joke, and I'm just calling balls & strikes.  AND he is the *only* person to have understood my 3dantiens mco writeup  without my having to explain it to him (the first one that was so oversimplified 'nobody' understood it, lol)

 

now perhaps the thread slide here should stop, because lone man pai is off topic in this thread.  folks can go gripe in drew's thread if they want to keep griping, and to what end, someone wants answers that they dont want to go look up or something, acting like a poor student and demanding answers of others.  in the olden days, your master would beat you for doing shit like that.

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23 minutes ago, joeblast said:

they dont want to go look up or something, acting like a poor student and demanding answers of others.

 

Like someone seriously owes him answers and explanations.


The history repeats itself over and over again, is hillarious.

 

2 hours ago, lifeforce said:

which hasn't been created by somebody

 

Well, if you cannot create a system then you are not a master. Master is someone who understands the topic on the level of changing it. Instructor is somebody who just teaches or passes what he was given before. For instance, I would consider Mantak Chia only an instructor, who passes what he was taught many many years ago. He did not create anything new in 50 years of practice, but I think he is happy with what he got from his teachers.

 

Like if you know how universal principle's work you can create any exercise without a need to go and find an exercise in some book.

There was a creator behind everything, and it is not like there was some original knowledge passed through generations since the age of dawn.

 

Just not everyone can create things or improve things that already exist for generations. 

And different exercises and approaches can ultimately lead to the same result, like there could be 999 ways to open 3rd eye and begin to see energy waves with your eyes.

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1 hour ago, joeblast said:

in the olden days, your master would beat you for doing shit like that.

 

Too right, I sure miss those days.:blink:

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1 hour ago, GSmaster said:

 

Like someone seriously owes him answers and explanations.


The history repeats itself over and over again, is hillarious.

 

 

Well, if you cannot create a system then you are not a master. Master is someone who understands the topic on the level of changing it. Instructor is somebody who just teaches or passes what he was given before. For instance, I would consider Mantak Chia only an instructor, who passes what he was taught many many years ago. He did not create anything new in 50 years of practice, but I think he is happy with what he got from his teachers.

 

Like if you know how universal principle's work you can create any exercise without a need to go and find an exercise in some book.

There was a creator behind everything, and it is not like there was some original knowledge passed through generations since the age of dawn.

 

Just not everyone can create things or improve things that already exist for generations. 

And different exercises and approaches can ultimately lead to the same result, like there could be 999 ways to open 3rd eye and begin to see energy waves with your eyes.

 

Whatever makes you feel better about made up bs. 

 

Just says something about you that's all. That you dont care about standards quality or authenticity. That you will let any bozo in a mask teach any thing he made up...

 

Are you that desperate and broke that you cant find and train with a real taoist or are you just that jaded?

 

How broken are you on a scale of 1-10?

 

Im sure that he is pirating it from a teacher he had.

 

There is no way in hell that a professional would train with a guy like this. I dont give a damn what you say.

 

Your not serious if you were you would find a real Taoist.

 

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1 hour ago, lifeforce said:

 

Too right, I sure miss those days.:blink:

The masters aren't gone. They just went into the vortex, to become more, and when they come out, they become all the details you've been asking for. And then will you see the children of the world teaching where the masters had left off, ever into more of the greatness that will be evermore.

 

Every moment is new and fresh, unlike any that has ever gone before it, and will be, evermore.

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56 minutes ago, beachbum78 said:

 

Whatever makes you feel better about made up bs. 

 

Just says something about you that's all. That you dont care about standards quality or authenticity. That you will let any bozo in a mask teach any thing he made up...

 

Are you that desperate and broke that you cant find and train with a real taoist or are you just that jaded?

 

How broken are you on a scale of 1-10?

 

Im sure that he is pirating it from a teacher he had.

 

There is no way in hell that a professional would train with a guy like this. I dont give a damn what you say.

 

Your not serious if you were you would find a real Taoist.

 

Image result for lonemanpai

 

Jesus ! Is this still going on ? And in two threads.

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8 hours ago, GSmaster said:

 

Well, I suggest going back to school, somewhere in a 5th grade and study some physics, that is what you are missing.

The video shows not a qigong skill but a simple trick which can be done by 10 year old without any physical power.

The only thing he mastered, is the art of scamming and being shameless to do this on public video.

 

You still believe he is real kungfu / pai master, haha.

 

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Hmmm ... something about a 'master' carrying a sledgie   . . . . . . 

 

 

You never see the pic  AFTER they  break stuff with their head

 

 

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There are a lot of insults flying around in this topic. It should be noted that the teacher of lone man pai  you are discussing is in fact a member of this forum. He is protected by the insult policy and terms of service. Please consider this to be a friendly suggestion to tread lightly. The first report that comes in on this topic or the one started by Drew will likely end in a suspension.

 

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Why is there hate on the mask?  Ive always liked the mask.

 

Its even smiling to be friendly.

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the way this conversation is being held is ridiculous. We're just gonna suspend our ability to talk about things and the merits of their individual facets for this one guys work?

 

lets be grown ups and breath into our stomachs with some respect for each other 

 

we're all swimming in the same astral waste 

 

 

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8 hours ago, Forwards said:

Why is there hate on the mask?  Ive always liked the mask.

 

Its even smiling to be friendly.

 

Mehinks the critics are quite  'effected' by the mask . I think it was a trigger   -  to do with some past trauma , perhaps.

 

.... its just a mask

 

And  after all your complaints about the mask - if he removed the mask, so what ?   Just another face . 

 

What? D'you get burnt or something ? Why all the outrage ? 

 

[ I went  full masked once  (body head face, everything -  deff the weird looking outfit -  but it was at a fancy dress party, in a town where I only knew one person ( who took me to that party). Everyone assumed I was some friend or member of their group, it was a great mystery for them, as they could not figure who it was . It was delightful fun, I ate handfuls of the best food, scoffed other's alcohol, smooched some women, whose partners uncomfortably put up with it as they thought I was mate 'playing a trick' . :D

 

I acted pretty outrageously actually.  Then when I left, they pleaded with me to reveal my identity  - okay, I  revealed my head and face   and left  and they where all   ;  WTF ?   Who the hell was that guy ....     :D 

 

Besides ,   LMP has demoed some groovy shit here .... and, in the past, given a fair bit away  .....    to the perceptive .

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7 hours ago, Nungali said:

Besides ,   LMP has demoed some groovy shit here .... and, in the past, given a fair bit away  .....    to the perceptive .

 

You're only supposed to use three dots ... instead of four or five.

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On 2019-03-22 at 11:59 AM, beachbum78 said:

 

Who is the teacher?

Who was his teacher?

What skill does he teach?

What makes lonemanpai a Pai?

It is a pun on Long Men Pai. 

It is not daoist, it is not traditional, so don't get into a fret about the "Pai". 

 

If you have questions about the skills, you could always join. 😁 

But there are seated exercises of Nei gong type, standing exercises, and summonings based on Enochian (?) magic. 

The purpose of the system and the goal of the system, well, you could always join. 

 

Is SOTG a fraud? 

Define fraud. 

 

Is he claiming to teach a traditional chinese lineage? 

No, he is claiming to teach what he teaches. No fraud there. You may dislike it, which is an other matter. 

 

Is he powerful in his transmissions? Well, if you decide to take part of one, don't go to work that day. 

 

Does that compare to your average three different lineages initiated Daoist priest? 

Who knows. 

Next question is, how do you find the time to practice material from three different spiritual lineages? 

Or is it just a contest? 

The one with the most lineages when he (becomes immortal) wins. 😁 

 

Personally, I found LMP too dependent on focus and visualisation, so I stuck to my system. But I also found LMP a supportive place to hang, a couple of years ago. 

 

Would I recommend LMP? 

No. 

I wouldn't recommend my tradition either. 

Pick something easier 😁. 

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18 minutes ago, Mudfoot said:

Personally, I found LMP too dependent on focus and visualisation, so I stuck to my system. But I also found LMP a supportive place to hang, a couple of years ago. 

 

Finding your own way into practice is always great feeling.

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2 hours ago, Mudfoot said:

It is a pun on Long Men Pai. 

It is not daoist, it is not traditional, so don't get into a fret about the "Pai". 

 

If you have questions about the skills, you could always join. 😁 

But there are seated exercises of Nei gong type, standing exercises, and summonings based on Enochian (?) magic. 

The purpose of the system and the goal of the system, well, you could always join. 

 

Is SOTG a fraud? 

Define fraud. 

 

Is he claiming to teach a traditional chinese lineage? 

No, he is claiming to teach what he teaches. No fraud there. You may dislike it, which is an other matter. 

 

Is he powerful in his transmissions? Well, if you decide to take part of one, don't go to work that day. 

 

Does that compare to your average three different lineages initiated Daoist priest? 

Who knows. 

Next question is, how do you find the time to practice material from three different spiritual lineages? 

Or is it just a contest? 

The one with the most lineages when he (becomes immortal) wins. 😁 

 

Personally, I found LMP too dependent on focus and visualisation, so I stuck to my system. But I also found LMP a supportive place to hang, a couple of years ago. 

 

Would I recommend LMP? 

No. 

I wouldn't recommend my tradition either. 

Pick something easier 😁. 

 

 

Im amazed to the lengths you go to fully show your ignorance on the matter.

 

In one of the lonemanpai videos on YouTube he states,

 

"If you start bleeding out your ears or something like that let him know."

 

Kinda screams he doesn't know what he is doing or the results of the practices and may hurt people thru them if he hasn't already.

 

Neigong you say so what inner skill are you developing that leads to immortality and what kind and what level of immortality and who attained it with this practice?

 

Immortality how do you know what that really is outside of books if no one actually explains it to you than how do you actually know?

 

A transmission a transmission of what just energy? Is this what you think transmission means I mean really?

 

Now the funniest thing is that you think you can attain immortality which you nothing about thru neigong which you know nothing about and in a Pai which isnt a Pai which you dont know why that is either.

 

Kinda why I posted links to real Taoists.

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14 minutes ago, beachbum78 said:

 

Im amazed to the lengths you go to fully show your ignorance on the matter.

I realize you are amazed. 😁 

 

You, on the other hand, might want to reread my post and your response to that. 

 

How much are you off? 

Let me count the ways? 

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it's fraudulent to say that your going to teach someone something that you cant do yourself with a method/teaching that your not sure actually works. 

 

Its like saying im going to teach someone to speak Arabic by eating glazed donuts an then charge monthly for it. An then suggest people who are actually learning from a language professor to leave them and join me.

 

It's unethical and fraudulent.

 

Its not crazy to ask for the teacher's credentials. 

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2 minutes ago, Mudfoot said:

I realize you are amazed. 😁 

 

You, on the other hand, might want to reread my post and your response to that. 

 

How much are you off? 

Let me count the ways? 

 

Only by your inyour ability to answer any questions which means the whole thing is fake and make believe. 

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2 minutes ago, beachbum78 said:

it's fraudulent to say that your going to teach someone something that you cant do yourself with a method/teaching that your not sure actually works. 

Good. You defined your version of fraud. 

 

But how do you know he cannot do the things he say he can do, and how do you know that he is not sure his method will do that? 

 

And how do you know that another school fulfills the above? 

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3 minutes ago, beachbum78 said:

 

Only by your inyour ability to answer any questions which means the whole thing is fake and make believe. 

This does not make sense. 

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2 hours ago, Mudfoot said:

It is a pun on Long Men Pai. 

It is not daoist, it is not traditional, so don't get into a fret about the "Pai". 

 

If you have questions about the skills, you could always join. 😁 

But there are seated exercises of Nei gong type, standing exercises, and summonings based on Enochian (?) magic. 

The purpose of the system and the goal of the system, well, you could always join. 

 

Is SOTG a fraud? 

Define fraud. 

 

Is he claiming to teach a traditional chinese lineage? 

No, he is claiming to teach what he teaches. No fraud there. You may dislike it, which is an other matter. 

 

Is he powerful in his transmissions? Well, if you decide to take part of one, don't go to work that day. 

 

Does that compare to your average three different lineages initiated Daoist priest? 

Who knows. 

Next question is, how do you find the time to practice material from three different spiritual lineages? 

Or is it just a contest? 

The one with the most lineages when he (becomes immortal) wins. 😁 

 

Personally, I found LMP too dependent on focus and visualisation, so I stuck to my system. But I also found LMP a supportive place to hang, a couple of years ago. 

 

Would I recommend LMP? 

No. 

I wouldn't recommend my tradition either. 

Pick something easier 😁. 

i agree with the focus on focus getting in the way a bit. one of the reasons I've been having more success with my own system. I struggle to get the breaths low and deep enough if I have to much focus on the dantian, or on anything. the focus itself seems to prompt the ego and some body tensing. that being said, the passive effects it had on the meridians and dantian activity never left, which is nice  

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1 minute ago, Mudfoot said:

Good. You defined your version of fraud. 

 

But how do you know he cannot do the things he say he can do, and how do you know that he is not sure his method will do that? 

 

And how do you know that another school fulfills the above? 

 

Sure ill answer your questions.

 

Nei gong means inner skill. 

 

Having a teacher means he tested you and approved you thru testing. 

 

Immortality is based off the history of the lineage meaning it is attributed to an immortal or Buddha thus making it worthwhile.

 

So again what basis are you saying that lonemanpai methods lead to immortality.?  

 

Look its not going to be me that pays the price for being wrong about this its going to be everyone who practices lonemanpai.

 

Time reveals everything. 

 

I hope your not wasting your time money and efforts just because you didnt ask a few questions..

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