Vantage Posted December 31, 2007 (edited) I've been experimenting with not ejaculating now for a couple of months. So far I have not been able to get past 21 days. At that time I usually get a wet dream. So this is what i want to avoid. I want to make it past a month to see how that feels. Â What I will do every day: - 30 minutes zazen meditation - 6 tibetan rites - couple of minutes Ham-Sa - eat healthy and no caffeine - no porn, no masturbation. Â If anyone has more recommendations on how to avoid wet dreams I'd like to hear. Edited December 31, 2007 by Vantage Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mantis Posted December 31, 2007 Retention Thread  always avoid sleeping on your stomach limit red meat, eggs, fish, and garlic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vantage Posted December 31, 2007 always avoid sleeping on your stomach  Good one! I always sleep on my stomach. This is the way my parents have always put me, and now it feels completly normal for me. That will be a very hard habit to break. Any suggestions? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Procurator Posted December 31, 2007 Â If anyone has more recommendations on how to avoid wet dreams I'd like to hear. exclude all starch and sugar, practice "golden groin" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vantage Posted December 31, 2007 practice "golden groin" what is that? Â I searched on google and this site and could not find it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mantis Posted December 31, 2007 Good one! I always sleep on my stomach. This is the way my parents have always put me, and now it feels completly normal for me. That will be a very hard habit to break. Any suggestions? Â just try sleeping on your side one night, if sleeping on the left doesn't feel comfortable go to the right; one will feel better than the other. if it feels unnatural just focus on your breathing and you'll fall asleep... don't be surprised if you wake up on your belly or in a weird position though lol, it takes time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
qijack Posted December 31, 2007 (edited) I would say give up the 6 tibetan rites.These excersis build up alot of jing/energy in your lower centers, that eventually will need to be released if you dont know how to manage that energy correctly./edit ok just discovered your not that young:P  I think take up Tai-Chi.That will move the energy away from your lower centers into your arms,legs etc.And teach you a whole lot more than the 6 tibetans could ever teach you.It helps me alot with controlling sexual urges  Also i think its helpfull to sleep fully naked.That way you minimize any rubbing/pressure against your dick that might trigger wet dreams  Not sure what ham-Sa is..Mind sharing? Edited December 31, 2007 by truth Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mantis Posted December 31, 2007 don't give up retention - sleeping naked will allow the phallus direct contact with your bed, any rubbing will provide excitation. Â as long as you transmute (ham-sa) and keep your mind pure and eliminate anger and negative emotions you will be fine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Procurator Posted December 31, 2007 what is that? Â I searched on google and this site and could not find it. http://www.martialartsmart.net/prjt001.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vantage Posted December 31, 2007 (edited) thanks for all the input guys. Â I've noticed before that sleeeping on my stomach could be an important cause. I think sleeping on my side will make a huge difference. If I can get myself to it. Will try tonight. Â Not sure what ham-Sa is..Mind sharing? a transmutation exercise recommended by mantis. http://www.gnosticteachings.org/content/view/146/64/ Edited December 31, 2007 by Vantage Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joeblast Posted January 1, 2008 for me, doing kunlun seems to utilize the energy well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Trunk Posted January 1, 2008 This might help some... Â If the upper torso has stored heat and tension, then jing is inhibited from naturally rising and mixing from the lower into upper torso. Â The various acupoints along the inside edge of the scapula and next to the spine, those points generally clear heat and stagnation from deep within the upper torso, and thus allow jing to come up into the torso more freely and nourish deeply. Could be helpful to use the back nobber before retiring. Â "back nobber" massage tool Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yue Posted January 2, 2008 for me, doing kunlun seems to utilize the energy well. Â I agree. Kunlun takes the sexual energy you've built up and uses it to strengthen the bliss energy. I haven't actually EXPERIENCED bliss energy yet, but I definitely feel a lack of sexual energy after practice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vantage Posted January 28, 2008 I've continued my experiences in the Retention Thread: http://www.thetaobums.com/index.php?showtopic=4375&st=20 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freesun Posted January 28, 2008 Good one! I always sleep on my stomach. This is the way my parents have always put me, and now it feels completly normal for me. That will be a very hard habit to break. Any suggestions? Â Â The first thing that comes to mind is to make it uncomfortable for the body to sleep on the stomach. Maybe tie a tennis ball around your waist? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pero Posted September 7, 2008 don't give up retention - sleeping naked will allow the phallus direct contact with your bed, any rubbing will provide excitation. Â Have you never had wet dreams while sleeping on your back? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mantis Posted September 7, 2008 you can have them in any position but the less friction the better, wouldn't you agree? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pero Posted September 7, 2008 you can have them in any position but the less friction the better, wouldn't you agree? Â Of course. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spectrum Posted September 7, 2008 (edited) gung up, cross train, gung down into sleep. seek vibratory states between wake and sleep. It will start you in the direction of dream lucidity allowing "free will" to take hold in the randomness of the dream state which can be knee jerk, compulsive and full of "go to" habit patterns... Edited September 7, 2008 by Spectrum Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
exorcist_1699 Posted September 8, 2008 (edited) In fact : Â 1) Wet dream does not necessarily lead to nocturnal emission if all or most of your jing (sperm) are already transformed to qi; Â 2)Without wet dream, you still can have your jing lost in night time . Â Knowing the Time and change of yin and yang is always important .Before reaching the pre-heavenly level, you are still entangled by the forces of yin/yang , here , concretely speaking , movement of the moon and sun . Edited September 9, 2008 by exorcist_1699 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites