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  1. Jing to Qi - a Technical Question

    Both Taoism and TCM base on jing, qi , shen , these are basic stuff they both share , but there are really some differences : 1) Taoism ( I mean Neidan) is for eternal life , TCM is for curing diseases and health; 2) While Taoism emphasizes the attainment of pre-heavenly qi, TCM limits itself to use the post-heavenly qi ; 3) TCM looks more complicated , or trivial , as you need to know all 14 meridians , concepts related to them say Shao Yang, Yang-Ming..etc and the 5-element theory..so as to identify the diseases and make use of acupuncture, tuna ,herbs to cure ; on the other hand, in Neidan, once you are capable of initializing qi , you start to be able to cure ( at least yourself); the jing-qi-shen theory and the Du plus Ren meridians are the main things you need to know , 5-element theory is less important because once the qi from lower dantian initialized , it will build up and spread... So unless you are eager to preach Taoist theory to the public and answer troubles from qi-gong practitioners , the Neidan path should be a simpler one . 4) Hardly does TCM mention the emptied-Mind issue, but in Neidan it is crucial .
  2. Is life long celibacy even possible ???

    Passions and sex drives are so strong, especially those in our youth, that only an emptied ,mindless Mind with no intention can counteract and sublimate them . All minds are the tools of those passions and drives, yet thinking that they are working for the interest of their own selves, their real owners ( in fact the host is outcast to a hidden corner of the body where people sometime call it dantian , sometime call it the Magic Gateway .., it is a guest , the false self , who is really in charge ) . If people are in capable of bringing back their real Self , then no matter how hard they try living away from the crowd , on the high mountain, into a deep cave.. all are just some kinds of formalism in life , to the end , futile.
  3. 觀空亦空,空無所空。所空既無,無無亦無。無無既無,湛然常寂。寂無所寂,欲豈能生。欲既不生,即是真靜。真常應物,真常得性。常應常靜,常清靜矣! 如此清靜,漸入真道。既入真道,名爲得道。雖名得道,實無所得。爲化眾生,名爲得道。能悟之者,可傳聖道。 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- In fact , it already includes the ontology related to Tao and the methodology of entering its core here .
  4. Best classic routine to tonify yin

    You can tonify your jing by many ways at many levels : 1) Ordinary ways: Eat good food, sleep well , refrain from having sex..etc; but likely guys who are in /after 50s not possible to recover from it through these ways. 2) TCM herbal formula : The conditions of using them are the comprehension of the Chinese herbs well , plus your capable of identifying what aspect of your kidney deficiency is ,whether it be yin ( water/liquid) aspect or yang (fire) aspect , so as to drink the right formulas. Roughly we can say that it is jing tonified by jing at the same level as herbs used are jing targeted , also pork or mutton are always added to these herbs' soup to enhance the effects. 3) By Medical qigong ways : Gong of contracting and relaxing your perineum, rubbing or pressing your navel several times per day , clenching your teeth when peeing..etc , there are lot of them very effective. We can say that these are jing tonified on the qi level . 4) Tonify jing on the Shen level as freeform mentioned above : An emptied Mind, if doing well , can tonify jing , not only those in our kidney , but directly those in our kneel, ankle , wrist where pains, swells or cramps make us suffer . It is , in fact , tonifying the ordinary jing by Yuan Jing ( meta/ prenatal essence ) for Yuan Jing can be embodied in us as Shen . The point is , since our jing is already in a deficient status, the least possible state from where we can attain the Shen , how then can we adopt that way ?
  5. Jing to Qi - a Technical Question

    1) If you follow the medical qigong way , then it is jing ( 精) to qi (氣) ; If you follow the Neidan way , then it is jing to 炁 ( pre-heavenly qi ); What makes it different depends on what kind of a mind you apply to the process, whether it is something similar to your daily consciousness or a unique emptied mind . 2) Yuan ( original ) Jing (essence ) is something elusive behind , only its embodied forms in our bodies can be sensed : when we see we use jing , when we hear , we use jing ; sex is just another form we use our jing , and because it drains a large amount of it and gets a materialized form as result , we can identify it easily , others are formless so they are not that easily be recognized . Note that in Taoism , no matter in TCM or Neidan sense, jing is not solely referred to sex or something stored in sex organ, rather jing is referred as the yin ( liquid and material ) aspect of every organ , and qi is the yang ( energy) aspect of every organ ; we can do many things undermine our jing say , by over-using our eyesight in reading too many books, listening to too much music , sex-addiction or over-thinking ( it hurts our stomach )..etc. One of the reasons why people unable to attain physical immortality is their incapacity of grasping the complexity and delicacy of jing , espeically Yuan Jing , which in fact need careful study of their daily life and practice ; heavy reading of TCM's texts are also useful ( you can view Neidan as a concentrated form of Taoism where a lot of details are not mentioned , it is in TCM that you are given them..)
  6. Question on the dantians

    Although under our navel, there are lot of acupuncture points, but we can not pull together the lower dantian by just pressing them , it is the application of our mind that is necessary . You can apply an no-intention mind to dantian after it is initialized . One of the skills is "focus then forget it " , it is, of course , different from " focus then keep focusing ".
  7. Question on the dantians

    Dantian is different from the acupuncture point . The acupuncture points are always there as important , existing energy concentrated points on the meridians even you do not apply your mind to it or just in sleep . For example, one of the most common used acupuncture points is on the Large Intestine Channel: LI4, Hegu( '合谷') , in between your thumb and index finger, where you can sense it by pressing and holding it for 2~3 minutes , then you sense some flow of energy along your forearm . Dantian is something different; if you do not apply a mind , some intention on it , qi will not arise from it to show its existence , let alone rising from the bottom of our body to your head . First you mobilize it by slightly apply your mind to the lower , middle or upper dantian ( apply a mind to the UD , its strength is difficult to grasp , don't careless try ! ) , then later for initializing higher quality of qi, you apply no-mind to one of them , or just "apply " no-mind to nowhere ..
  8. Experience with tcm - Not qi gong

    Both qi gong and TCM herbs use the same stuff to sustain and nourish us : jing and qi . The only difference is by ways of different media . While TCM makes use of jing and qi in treated herbs , minerals ,inserts ..etc that we eat , stick or steam the body, smell into our nose ...etc , gi-gong practitioners use mind , intention, focus or just no-mind or no-intention to initialize , first qi inside our bodies , later qi outside of our bodies , to do the same job . Some TCM herbs , same as qi-gong , do replenish our kidney -yin as qi-gong does .
  9. Ching Chin Ching, "The Classic of Purity"

    Maybe you can see this : https://www.thedaobums.com/topic/40698-jing-of-tranquility-清淨經/
  10. Yeah , for both Taoist and Buddhist practice ,things like avoid nocturnal emission of jing , not drink cold or icy water or abstain from getting angry with trivial matters are all important . But the reasons why those prohibitions are significant Buddhists never state it clearly . It is in Taoist jing-qi-shen or TCM's context that they are fully explained .
  11. Buddhists do not talk about jing and qi , which does not imply that they are not the source of the human spirit . Quite the contrary , with the identification of them , it lets us solve many problems in our practice much easier.
  12. Jing and shen are closely related . Deterioration of your jing will definitely weaken your mental ability . Any mental activities, whether it be calculating your monthly expense , playing online games overnight , try consolidating an emptied mind for hours ..etc all lessen your spiritual power, then drain your essence . People may not sense it in a short period of time or in their youth , but in the long run, in their old age it can be sensed clearly . Most old people lose their creativity ( delicacy and creativity of spirit comes from jing ) in jobs or no longer be capable of learning new things are also proofs of this . Lack of jing definitely will lead to a dull mind , in fact, various layers of emptiness , that kind of delicacy , can not be sensed by old guys , which sadly makes them doubt the truth of Taoist or Buddhist truth . So, unless they can do their emptied-Mind job well that enables them to tap energy from that emptiness continuously, hardly can they maintain that level of spiritual competence in their old age.
  13. Likely what we come across in modern society are Zen or Meditation classes, vulgarized forms of the original preaching , mainly tailored made for office ladies or business men to kill off their spare time or to make their mind peaceful . Hardly can we meet sharp and penetrating , on some occasions even bloody, say chop off an apostle's thumb or cut a poor cat into halves , ways of forcing people into confronting what the Buddha Mind is . The aspiration to grasp the reality of the cosmos is lost, and replaced by those mediocre tastes of a modern citizen.
  14. In fact, sitting there straight , try consolidating an emptied Mind or singing the name of Buddha , all these activities drain our jing and shen day after day . So, unless the shen and jing we get daily from the emptied Mind overtakes the shen and jing we lose every day, never can we attain everlasting life. Besides , even we can get an not so bad emptied Mind in our youth , we likely will loss it in our old age . Another important thing is how to assure that the emptied Mind we get is something yang, not any unproductive , forcibly formed, looks seemingly emptied Mind , some kind of pseudo Enlightenment ? One of the proofs is whether there is sex pleasure in that mindless status, the other one is whether there is embryonic breathing ...; these are Taoist criteria to check Buddhist claim of achievement . Generally speaking , Taoists know Buddhist way better than Buddhists' understanding of the Taoist jing-qi-shen framework .
  15. Both Buddhism and Taoism emphasize the importance of the emptied Mind, in fact , it is the core of both systems. The main difference is that Taoism knows well that to attain such an emptied Mind directly from people's existing status ( entangled in a weak physical body with various stresses and drives ; dominated by an overwhelming analytic mind..etc) is nearly impossible . So better adopt an indirect way of initializing qi from jing first , then from qi lets people grasp what an emptied Mind ( shen ) is . Besides, once qi is initialized and upgraded , lets it settle the fluctuating minds is more easier than asking the minds to settle/ empty itself as qi and mind gets yang and yin attract-to-each-other relationship in between . However, any good way can be vulgarized , not because Taoist is inferior to the Buddhist , but because some not so clever people incline to make thing superficial so that they can grasp it . Remember that any attachment to qi , to some glow, even to emptiness itself will block you from advancing . Building a boat to cross a river, but then you have to abandon it, is the metaphor always quoted so as to remind people of not being entangled by any attachment ; it is true even you have just attained a great , laborious achievement one second ago .