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那么[骑马步]要怎么站才能稳当?

 

So, how to obtain stability by practicing the horse stance? 

 

要怎么站才能作为行动的根基?要怎么站才能产生招式的力量?要怎么站才能不会成为身体的累赘?

各门各派有大马、小马、高马、低马、死马、活马等等的战法,表面乍看不同,要领其实类似,本文蒐集了陈家太极拳陈子明前辈,陈发科前辈,杨家太极拳 楊澄甫前辈, 形意、八卦、太极名家孙禄堂前辈,八卦拳尹玉章前辈宮宝田 前辈, 少林、武当名家郭粹亚,自然们大师万籁声前辈、南拳大师林世荣前辈,摔跤大王场东升,八步螳螂名家微笑堂,名不见经传,但是弓架产谨的山东宁津八极拳架,这些人物时空派别差距很大,但是他们的骑马步却显示出共通的原则,或者可以说呈现出骑马步的真理。

 

How to practice so as standing becomes the basis for movement? How to practice so as it brings strength to your movements? How to practice so as your body doesn't become a burden? 

Every school has large, small high, low, dead and living horse (etc.) stances in their fighting techniques. Even if they look different, their characteristics are the same. This article collects Chen Ziming and Chen Fake from the Chen family taijiquan, Yang Chengfu from the Yang family taijiquan, the famous master of xingyi, bagua and taiji, Sun Lutang, Yin Yuzhang and Gong Baotian from the Yin style baguaquan, Guo Cuiya, a master of both Wudang and Shaolin arts, Wan Laisheng from the Natural Boxing school, the great Southern boxer Lin Shirong, Yang Dongsheng, the king of shuaijiao (Chinese wrestling), Wei Xiaotang from the eight step praying mantis boxing, as well as people unknown, practicing bajiquan in the Ningjing area... all these men lived in different places and times, yet, there horse stance showed the same principles. Or we could say that they could show the truth behind the horse stance.  

 
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Let's merge the Baguaquan Gong Baotian/Gong Baozhai discussion at old Emptyflower Internal Martial Arts forum because of its relevance due to the deep level attained by practitioners belonging to this traditional Bagua lineage and those who adopted this particular training methodology in their own practice:

 

http://gaobagua.net/ef-public/index1bc0.html?showtopic=8282&st=0

 

Hope you find it useful. :)

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Thank you for this thread and the many invaluable videos. There are two important aspects in baquazhang training, 1. 'lian gong', training in 'gong', effort, labour; e.g. walking the circle with static 8-Mother Palm pose and 2. 'lian chuan', training in the form, e.g. Wuloong-chuan or 64-lian-wan zhang. Lian gong should not be given up even when one has progressed towards learning the form. As is commonly said, 'lian chuan bu lian gong, dow lau yi sheng kung', roughly it meant, if one do not put in effort (to accomplish 'gong'), all becomes empty when old (all the time is wasted in training when one becomes old). My lineage is "Yin p'ai gong m'en". If for health reasons that one trains in baquazhang, walking the circle or even linear walking maybe good enough subject to knowing the details of walking, literally 'how to walk' especially in my lineage should be properly learned. And to learn this aspect properly, it is necessary to learn under a master or teacher unless the DVD has important details disclosed. Normally, DVDs are for those who already has the basic knowledge.

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On 6/19/2017 at 9:56 AM, Gerard said:

 

He Jinghan --> listen to him from 19:00. Spot on!

 

What is Bagua?

 

Hahaha. Good luck if you know what this art really is.

 

Like building a pyramid. Piece by piece from the bottom to the top. From the widest to the narrowest point which is the tip. That's what the progression is like in Bagua.

 

Thank you Mr He for sharing your wisdom (and also to Alex Kozma for making this two-part video available to the public).

 

:)

 

 

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Met Adam Hsu, long ago when he was teaching out in golden gate park, an area called the pan handle.
He mentions that "everyone should have their own bagua zhang" found this quite interesting as 
my teacher in teaching me taiji said the same thing...

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Quick tutorial/show on Ma Bu (Horse Stance).

 

Bread and butter (foundation work) of any Bagua program.

 

 

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This sounds like it should be an interesting read:

 

Major New Bagua Book

 

"This volume of “poems” and essays are supposedly written—recorded is a better word—directly from the teachings of Dong Hai Chuan, the founder of Bagua Zhang, by a follower named Zeng Zengqi. Falk expertly translates the text from the Chinese (included), but also adds her own enlightened English commentary. She preserves the poetic structure where the principles of Bagua are laid out in small, memorable Chinese verses. In former days these “songs” were studied and memorized, allowing even illiterate students to analyze their rich content."

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The Songs of Bagua:

 

1. In simplicity I must rely on.

2. With the Eight Mother Palms, I will gain.

3. Circle Walking, correct stepping, a well-rooted and relaxed posture I will fully focus my practice on.

4. Form training is not necessary; in fact it will slow down my progress.

5. Low stance training and foundation work will develop the root of my practice.

6. I will train with the main goal of purifying my mind and developing character (morality). Any other considerations are a hindrance to the understanding of this deep and complex Taoist art.

7. I will walk the circle fully focused on what I am doing while leaving worldly issues behind and controlling the degree of internal chatter.

 

:)

 

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5:30 am this morning. Summer heat is slowly picking up. I felt it yesterday so I knew it is going to be a hot day today, in fact when that happens it’s just textbook knowledge one of these forest dwellers will show up to enjoy the Yang conditions.  

 

Python snake

 

It was watching me very closely 10 m away from me, very curious about the circle walking activity. The movement of the snake is so stealthy that I didn’t feel it at all but I knew right away when it was observing my practice. Very strong yet smooth Yin energy, which I really like.

 

I have seen this particular snake 4 years ago while meditating at night in the same area of the park. Wonderful and highly intelligent being.

 

It was only a juvenile, 2.5 m long and they can be very grumpy but this one isn’t, we already know each other. :)

 

I only hope it comes for another visit soon. 

 

The joys of Bagua training in the rainforest. Every day is always a new day, expect the unexpected!

 

 

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Seattle185 (and others),

 

Here are some useful videos for your Bagua foundation work:

 

Squatting stretches

 

Squat better with ankle flexibility

 

Kettlebell work is great to work on proper squat depth, drop weights progressively over time, eg. 14-12-8-6-2Kg until you are able to squat all the way down in deep horse stance with only your bodyweight. Your Bagua will improve and you'll be working lower and lower each time ----> low basin.

 

Hope this proves useful to your lifelong Bagua practice.

 

 

 

 

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