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I am a 19 yr old male and i have been currently been celibate for 30 days. In that time, I have already seen great transformation of mind and my psychological approach to the world. I feel that I have gone from being a rather ordinary slacker with little self confidence to a much more confident and determined individual.

 

I don't know how else to describe the changes that have occurred except to say that it has been made clear to me how damaging self-pleasure was to my soul and mind. my intellectualizing of it is that the more often jing-essence is released, the more empty the soul and heart become, the less confident a man will feel, as well as more physically connected to the world. i went from being a user of pornography, whom was uncomfortable around women, to a guy who can casually engage any girl in conversation. i am aroused by real women. Girls seem to sense this energy and are more drawn to me as well..... i get hit on by girls now more than ever, lol. i was always self-confident about my size, as i am only 5'5" and 110 lbs, but now i truly do not care...because i can feel the inner fire burning

 

also -- statistically, I believe it is true that men experience more orgasms than women. this addicts men to the physical aspect of sex, and they will do anything to have that physical experience, with ANYONE, hence, prostitution, et cetera. since women are more conservative, they are more discriminating with regard to partner and they must have their heart-energy attached as well. they also are more in-tune with the heart and soul orgasms that can occur in life...

 

since being celibate, i receive joy and orgasm of SPIRIT by simply being in the COMPANY of women, if that makes sense. the "jing", or fierce, intense, primal willpower which is present as a result of being celibate, i channel into music, which is my passion. i can create more fiercely than ever before, and my determination is strong as an ox. i do not need to waste this willpower on expenditure of genetic material, lol.

 

so, haha....the path to enlightenment....am i doing it right?

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my intellectualizing of it is that the more often jing-essence is released, the more empty the soul and heart become

 

Good observation.

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Tell me, how did you manage the mind celibacy? I know that the more one cultivates, the more control they have. A person who truly cultivated samadhi can look at the sexiest girl in the world and not be aroused one bit.

 

I can do the body celibacy but the mind is tough one. haha

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That's right. Already, I have no desire for pornography/prostitution at all, nor do I have a physical need for sex which results in release of jing-essence. I feel the energy flowing through me by being in the presence of women, and even men lol.

 

Call me crazy, but the longer I restrain/retain/cultivate jing, i am actually witnessing physical and social effects. Women/girls smile at me and notice me more, as do gay men. my brow has become heavier, and my eyes darker and more full of "life". i feel that these effects are bordering on magical...

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That's right. Already, I have no desire for pornography/prostitution at all, nor do I have a physical need for sex which results in release of jing-essence. I feel the energy flowing through me by being in the presence of women, and even men lol.

 

Call me crazy, but the longer I restrain/retain/cultivate jing, i am actually witnessing physical and social effects. Women/girls smile at me and notice me more, as do gay men. my brow has become heavier, and my eyes darker and more full of "life". i feel that these effects are bordering on magical...

Yeah after reading this and some deep contemplation, I decided that I don't need sexual desire. It's my second day on trying to destroy the obstruction. Since you have no need for sex, there's no need to care about whether you're cute or ugly. So you're walking around and now people can pick up on your jing. You think of it like this, you're going back to a baby state where you didn't know about sex yet hundreds, thousands of people keep pointing out how cute you are. The people can't stop but stare and smile at it. Since you're an adult, the women say he's very cute, just like a baby, since he's old enough let me sleep with him. That's where the danger come.

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Yeah after reading this and some deep contemplation, I decided that I don't need sexual desire. It's my second day on trying to destroy the obstruction. Since you have no need for sex, there's no need to care about whether you're cute or ugly. So you're walking around and now people can pick up on your jing. You think of it like this, you're going back to a baby state where you didn't know about sex yet hundreds, thousands of people keep pointing out how cute you are. The people can't stop but stare and smile at it. Since you're an adult, the women say he's very cute, just like a baby, since he's old enough let me sleep with him. That's where the danger come.

Destroy is not the best word choice to use IMO, I think it is both psychological and emotionally unhealthy to have that kind of attitude that you have to destroy a part of yourself. IMO, it is better to relax into tension and slowly dissolve. Ofcourse there are other approaches as well, the ladder is a bit of a watery way of approaching....but you'll find you have all the fire you need when practicing celibacy. :P

 

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Destroy is not the best word choice to use IMO, I think it is both psychological and emotionally unhealthy to have that kind of attitude that you have to destroy a part of yourself. IMO, it is better to relax into tension and slowly dissolve. Ofcourse there are other approaches as well, the ladder is a bit of a watery way of approaching....but you'll find you have all the fire you need when practicing celibacy. :P

 

My 2 cents, Peace

Destroy, relax. both getting rid of something haha.

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Destroy, relax. both getting rid of something haha.

 

Both involve a breaking down/ release. The attatched meaning is somewhat different, though.

 

Destruction is a getting rid of, a battling. Completely breaking something down until it no longer exists.

 

Relaxing is simply letting it go. Letting something be. An expanding. Fluidity.

 

This may not be how everyone sees these words. My point is that words are given meaning and the words we use are important.

 

Each time we say destruction, we conjur into our minds the other meanings.

 

Its a somewhat subtle distinction that can be important.

 

Peace

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It has been my experience that the "breaking down" produced by jing conservation is that of ego. Jing is not a physical substance, and those who claim that jing=semen are mistaken. It is a certain consciousness, a fire in the eyes, steady, unvarying willpower, strong as an ox. It may seem trivial, but it has become clear to me that masturbation literally robs the soul of life, determination, and willpower, especially and perhaps exclusively for men. My doing so in puberty was literally admitting defeat before the battle had begun. It also predisposed me to inflated ego, yet sensitivity, as well as selfishness and inability to step outside myself. It is now clear to me that men who built muscle, etc. in effort to establish masculinity have the wrong idea; pure masculinity or the yang force is more so the desire and feel for necessity in strength of will and character.

 

It has been over a month since I have last jerked off and the psychological transformation in that time has been profound. I am convinced that the presence of semen in the body literally affects the chemistry of the brain. The realizations that I have come to have at times been so powerful and earth-shattering that they have produced anxiety for me. I have been using marijuana just to calm myself down lol.

 

Though I have been a boy in soul, I fear no more because I know that if I continue these practices, the man that I wish to be shall emerge on his own.

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Both involve a breaking down/ release. The attatched meaning is somewhat different, though.

 

Destruction is a getting rid of, a battling. Completely breaking something down until it no longer exists.

 

Relaxing is simply letting it go. Letting something be. An expanding. Fluidity.

 

This may not be how everyone sees these words. My point is that words are given meaning and the words we use are important.

 

Each time we say destruction, we conjur into our minds the other meanings.

 

Its a somewhat subtle distinction that can be important.

 

Peace

why do I like to argue about nothing or things of no importance? I do not know why haha. The words may be different but the meaning of them are different in my mind. If I showed it in pictures, perhaps one would understand. Thus I should not criticize your meaning as I wouldn't criticize my meaning.

 

 

It has been my experience that the "breaking down" produced by jing conservation is that of ego. Jing is not a physical substance, and those who claim that jing=semen are mistaken. It is a certain consciousness, a fire in the eyes, steady, unvarying willpower, strong as an ox. It may seem trivial, but it has become clear to me that masturbation literally robs the soul of life, determination, and willpower, especially and perhaps exclusively for men. My doing so in puberty was literally admitting defeat before the battle had begun. It also predisposed me to inflated ego, yet sensitivity, as well as selfishness and inability to step outside myself. It is now clear to me that men who built muscle, etc. in effort to establish masculinity have the wrong idea; pure masculinity or the yang force is more so the desire and feel for necessity in strength of will and character.

 

It has been over a month since I have last jerked off and the psychological transformation in that time has been profound. I am convinced that the presence of semen in the body literally affects the chemistry of the brain. The realizations that I have come to have at times been so powerful and earth-shattering that they have produced anxiety for me. I have been using marijuana just to calm myself down lol.

 

Though I have been a boy in soul, I fear no more because I know that if I continue these practices, the man that I wish to be shall emerge on his own.

 

 

The wisdom one has is so deep. So don't freak out. Funny that you're smoking pot. Normally, smoking pot makes some one very horny. That's why it is avoided, same with alcohol.

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why do I like to argue about nothing or things of no importance? I do not know why haha. The words may be different but the meaning of them are different in my mind. If I showed it in pictures, perhaps one would understand. Thus I should not criticize your meaning as I wouldn't criticize my meaning.

 

 

 

 

The wisdom one has is so deep. So don't freak out. Funny that you're smoking pot. Normally, smoking pot makes some one very horny. That's why it is avoided, same with alcohol.

 

I was not criticizing you, Malikshreds! Just pointing towards how words and meanings combine to create "things" that may not be apparent.

 

If you know what they mean to you, thats all that matters!

 

Peace.

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I was not criticizing you, Malikshreds! Just pointing towards how words and meanings combine to create "things" that may not be apparent.

 

If you know what they mean to you, thats all that matters!

 

Peace.

Haha who are you criticizing? Don't worry.

I was merely reflecting on my actions and thoughts and do not wish to worry you. :) Otherwise, I am tongue tied in what to say. hahaha

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Haha who are you criticizing? Don't worry.

I was merely reflecting on my actions and thoughts and do not wish to worry you. :) Otherwise, I am tongue tied in what to say. hahaha

 

Who?! I dunno. The cosmic, wonderous, mysterious who, indeed! haha.

 

Okie! I wanted you to know I was not jabbing at ya, just adding a point of view. Tongue tied?! ......make a scarf with your tied tongue!

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Read the Sutra in 42 Sections.

http://www.cttbusa.org/42sections/42sec_contents.asp

 

In order for one to cultivate the Way, one have to let go of sexual desire.

I find it a bit humorous that you posted a link to a sutra. One should understand that sutras, mantras, hymns, prayers.....etc....these are all WORDS. Words have power....a lot of power.....the words that we speak vibrate in a certain way and are a reflection of a certain level of consciousness (atleast IME).....this is what I was pointing at with my initial post...the language and words we use often orchestrates a certain state of consciousness.

 

When divisive words such as "destroy" are used they naturally set up a certain state of conflict that may or may not have been present to begin with. In my understanding people repeat certain mantras because they vibrate on a certain level that uplifts consciousness.....you are disminished or uplifted by the words you speak, the thoughts you think....and the feelings you emote. I did not mean for this to be a big discussion, were all free men and can write and say whatever we want, I just hope I made my point as clearly as possible so there is no confusion in my original intent. Linguistics is an interesting topic.

 

My 2 cents, Peace

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off the topic at hand, but i am a musician and artist in addition to my spiritual practices. i recently played music with a friend, and transmuted my jing to increase the energy and feeling that i was using to play. i felt that this energy was so strong and so thick that it was almost tangible.

 

now i am not superstitious, but i had recorded the session, and when i played it back i noticed a low-frequency, electromagnetic hum that had not been present before...and as my enthusiasm died down the hum faded. is it possible that the energies used by the brain and heart have electrical presence in the air?

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I find it a bit humorous that you posted a link to a sutra. One should understand that sutras, mantras, hymns, prayers.....etc....these are all WORDS. Words have power....a lot of power.....the words that we speak vibrate in a certain way and are a reflection of a certain level of consciousness (atleast IME).....this is what I was pointing at with my initial post...the language and words we use often orchestrates a certain state of consciousness.

 

When divisive words such as "destroy" are used they naturally set up a certain state of conflict that may or may not have been present to begin with. In my understanding people repeat certain mantras because they vibrate on a certain level that uplifts consciousness.....you are disminished or uplifted by the words you speak, the thoughts you think....and the feelings you emote. I did not mean for this to be a big discussion, were all free men and can write and say whatever we want, I just hope I made my point as clearly as possible so there is no confusion in my original intent. Linguistics is an interesting topic.

 

My 2 cents, Peace

Yes I understand your point.

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I find a diet of fresh fruit and vegetables helps significantly in such practices/ overall well being / clarity / harmony

A more subtle energy

I think diet is at least 75% of the journey ;)

Be Light

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I find a diet of fresh fruit and vegetables helps significantly in such practices/ overall well being / clarity / harmony

 

A more subtle energy

 

I think diet is at least 75% of the journey ;)

 

Be Light

 

Day-97-God-Kirlian.jpg

 

 

 

Fasting too.

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I will admit that diet is important. I notice that I tend to increasingly gravitate toward food that comes from the east, such as nuts, seeds, fruit, and vegetables. I don't eat grains but I do eat meat on occasion. Diet affects the mood as well.

 

As far as the cultivated jing, I still experience the occasional nocturnal emission, but I do not consider it a release of jing because it is not a voluntary act, i.e. a violation of willpower. I have no desire for porn or hookups, and ignore the advances of girls who bat their eyes at me just for a one-night stand. This is because i understand that jing is a precious substance, which I intend to sublimate into my creative pursuits. When the jing is conserved, I am as strong as an ox in terms of willpower; God help anyone who stands in my way. That will leave room for actual loving in a relationship, which should not be oriented sexually around the destruction of jing. When I do find a partner I would like to practice Tantra which cultivates energy rather than expend it. Can anyone give me any resources? Thanks

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I will admit that diet is important. I notice that I tend to increasingly gravitate toward food that comes from the east, such as nuts, seeds, fruit, and vegetables. I don't eat grains but I do eat meat on occasion. Diet affects the mood as well.

 

As far as the cultivated jing, I still experience the occasional nocturnal emission, but I do not consider it a release of jing because it is not a voluntary act, i.e. a violation of willpower. I have no desire for porn or hookups, and ignore the advances of girls who bat their eyes at me just for a one-night stand. This is because i understand that jing is a precious substance, which I intend to sublimate into my creative pursuits. When the jing is conserved, I am as strong as an ox in terms of willpower; God help anyone who stands in my way. That will leave room for actual loving in a relationship, which should not be oriented sexually around the destruction of jing. When I do find a partner I would like to practice Tantra which cultivates energy rather than expend it. Can anyone give me any resources? Thanks

If you have nocturnal emissions, each night recite Namo Amituofo 3x or Guanyin Bodhisattva 3x times. Also meditate before you sleep. Also practice controlling the PC muscles or huiyin. Contract and release it as you do abdomen breathing. It is well known that having control of the perineum, let's you last longer in bed so it will prevent you from nocturnal emissions. Chanting the Buddha and Bodhisattva's name will help give you the strength to ward off demons in your dreams.

 

As for tantra, look around a vajrayana center and talk to them about the tradition of learning tantra. If you can't find any place that teaches tantra, Taoists have sexual practices.

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I plan on going until I have embodied the vision of the type of man I wish to be in life. Cultivation is the utmost form of living naturally; when you cultivate you feel the imperative need to be strong, but not in the muscle-building or fitness-freak phenomenon of Western culture. Strong is of character. Cultivation also makes it very, very clear that we are in essence spiritual beings, that what is truly necessary is love, and how much of all else that causes suffering is self-inflicted; merely greed, laziness, or ignorance. I wish to be one who is strong and of utmost character, yet who is sensitive. I wish to also practice cultivation until I feel that I have used my energies to the best of their potential creatively, and make my mark on the world. At the time that I develop a relationship, in perhaps 10 years, sex will truly be able to be about mutual love instead of the evil destruction of essence and willpower that has predominated Western view, and will be a continued form of energy cultivation for me. Bless all who have helped in this thread thus far.

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It is very good to hear your revelations. I am thankful for all of your stories and information shared in this thread.

 

 

One worry that I have is that retaining semen will damage my prostate gland. Is this a legitimate worry? Sometimes it feels as if I feel a pleasure that could make me burst if I took advantage of it, just by sitting on a hard surface.

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It is very good to hear your revelations. I am thankful for all of your stories and information shared in this thread. One worry that I have is that retaining semen will damage my prostate gland. Is this a legitimate worry? Sometimes it feels as if I feel a pleasure that could make me burst if I took advantage of it, just by sitting on a hard surface.

Nah, I wouldn't worry about it. Monks been doing this for a long time.

People keep bringing up how bad it is retain semen because it means putting an end to sexual desire. People don't normally want to put an end to sexual desire so they make up all types of excuses not to.

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