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On 12/8/2019 at 4:13 AM, Forwards said:

I agree.  There is no magic or secret skill in dating women besides consistently talking to and flirting with them.  If you strike out you move on 

 

Now other stuff does go into it, but that's just common sense.  Take pride in your appearance,  do things you care about, don't be a terrible person.  That'll cover your bases and then its just a matter of connecting.


Seriously, sometimes people forget that saying hello is often all that is needed to get the ball rolling, because the chemistry, if it isn’t there, guard up or not, is what determines a lot of things. Anyone who tries to woo someone who isn’t initially interested may find that without chemistry, it’s a lot harder to maintain something that they try to pursue and force.

 

Case in point: I was rejected by a gorgeous gal in college, but we had chemistry. Took it in stride, still hung out, she knew I was into her and I just let her do what she did, laughed at a couple guys whom she thought were handsome, and we would study together. A few months later, while I’m already at the point of indifference, she springs herself on me because my sincerity and lack of desperation or arrogance was what made me appealing—she was testing me the whole time.

 

The guys she liked were just complete tools who had more love for their gym time and their cars. 
 

Score one for being yourself. Score with more people for being yourself, not your car, your abs, your pickup lines, your measurements, your income, your job title, or your online profile. 

 

On top of being yourself, if you aren’t happy about not getting laid and fixate so much on it, imagine how you look to the opposite sex. Be someone you’re happy to be, and the others will see that and like you for that too.

 

 I am happy being a slacker with a temper, intellectual, a gamer and nerd, and rocker, and being not tall. And if nobody likes that, sucks for them, I’m cool with myself and somehow still find girls attracted to me anyway. So if someone is bitching and getting trigger happy? The issue isn’t about sex, the issue is self-worth, most of the time.

 

Find a hobby!

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23 minutes ago, AngelsView said:

With the world in the state its in now, I fear Orwells prediction.

 

If they end up eradicating the orgasm I'll quit!

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1 hour ago, Forwards said:

If they end up eradicating the orgasm I'll quit!

 

Earlier this year, a Feminist scholar in the New York Times was talking about how there was a very extreme smaller cabal of feminism in the 1970s that was very loud and aggressive with their views, to the point that the average feminist then refused to associate with them because they were so far removed from the ideas of gender equality that they themselves sounded like the mythical "cultural Marxist" conspiracy that people love to drudge up. Today's extremist misogynistic views naturally led to some of those ideas resurfacing

 

They were called "cultural feminists" and they didn't just feel that relationships, men, and marriages were unnecessary, but that sex was unnecessary too. That last part was enough to raise the alarms and cause a lot of feminists to disown them, reminding everyone that this was obviously not feminism. Some of their more bizarre views was that they would push for in-vitro fertilization and the elimination of Miss, Ms. Mrs. 

 

The problem that many cultural feminists had is that this relied on capitalist western views and had a very universalist agenda that ignored complexities for women of color and different socio-political cultural backgrounds in different countries. Cultural feminism is sadly the model by which fourth wave is heavily influenced by, and the privilege of social media and access to technology that working class and non-western people do not have as much easy access to themselves. 

 

A Woke Western White Woman from Washington can't tell a Gambian woman on Facebook what is proper and how to deal with toxic patriarchy as there are too many contextual variables she doesn't consider. It's sadly historical too that these distortions come from a place of assuming gender alone is the only context that affects women, due to the fact that when American women got universal suffrage, this did not extend to women of color--who fought for that as well but were betrayed by their white sisters. The generational issue is covered in one liberal's book who is lost in an era where those who call themselves liberals have diverged in such a way that the label doesn't include her. Thinking that women alone would make a utopia and assuming men are the toxic part of society don't realize that capitalism is a bigger influence than they think.

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2 minutes ago, AngelsView said:

Yep. Feminist extremism is bullshit.


Fourth wave and cultural feminism, yes, but let’s not throw out the baby with the bath water! What feminism stood for originally and its original philosophy is fantastic.


Don’t let the taint of modern people who claim to be feminists who aren’t even feminists affect your views of it, whether it’s the misanthropic woman who hates men and thinks women are superior or the snake of a man who pretends to be woke and sensitive, but really just wants to sleep with everyone in a dishonest way.

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