The decline and eventual fall of the USA as world superpower?

[ralis]

Another idiotic hack spews insanity from Fox News. Journalism or lack thereof is at an all time low. Huma Abedin is Anthony Weiner's wife.

 

 

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/07/29/fox-news-guest-weiner-un-attracted-to-huma-abedin-because-she-is-connected-with-islamists/

 

 

Edited July 29, 2013 by ralis

[voidisyinyang]

 

Greg Palast is supposed to be on Keiser Report soon....

[voidisyinyang]

http://williamblum.org/aer/read/119

 

Guess it's next week's Keiser Report...

 

So William Blum on the U.s. threatening Venezuela if they give Snowden Aslyum - sanctions! Then Ecuador not getting any extradiction for the CIA coup attempt against its president.... and so on....

 

asymmetrical extradiction....

[ralis]

The Federal Reserve Is Bailing Out FOREIGN Banks … More than the American People or Economy

 

 

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023371575

[Vanir Thunder Dojo Tan]

and American people can do anything about it except talk. /sarcasm.

[ralis]

The FBI uses spyware to activate microphones in phones and computers to listen in....

 

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023394988

 

h

Edited August 3, 2013 by ralis

[zerostao]

[Vanir Thunder Dojo Tan]

The FBI uses spyware to activate microphones in phones and computers to listen in....

 

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023394988

 

h

 

 

In case no one's noticed: All you have to do is navigate to facebook and they're automatically tied into their surveilence. you don't even have to log in, just visit facebook.com and they'll start uploading right away!

 

[Apech]

 

 

In case no one's noticed: All you have to do is navigate to facebook and they're automatically tied into their surveilence. you don't even have to log in, just visit facebook.com and they'll start uploading right away!

 

 

 

I think it's a handy way to get your message across ... just post on Facebook and hundreds of security operatives are listening ... I'd like the NSA to say hi to my mother for me I haven't phoned her in ages.

[Vanir Thunder Dojo Tan]

I don't know if I want feds listening in on "the people's economy" idea I have of converting cash and "federal reserve" into the lowest of low lows possible low end values and making bottlecaps and empty bic lighters the new medium of exchange

1 $100 bill is worth 1 unmarked, unnamed, clean bottlecap.

[voidisyinyang]

[zerostao]

i have several bottle caps and used up bic lighters

how do we arrange this exchange?

omg i am starting to sound like stosh!

[Thunder_Gooch]

http://info.publicintelligence.net/USArmy-InternmentResettlement.pdf

 

mirror:

 

https://tpb.ipredator.se/torrent/8478025/


"INTERNMENT AND RESETTLEMENT OPERATIONS" or FM 3-39.40

The following video details the contents of a Department of Defense document entitled "INTERNMENT AND RESETTLEMENT OPERATIONS" or FM 3-39.40. The document is 325 pages long and is signed by JOYCE E. MORROW Administrative Assistant to the Secretary of the Army. It was created in 2010 however it has just recently been leaked to the public via the internet and can now be downloaded from multiple sources. In the description below you will find a download link for the document. I encourage you to download it yourself and verify everything that is being said here.

The document outlines military procedures for internment and resettlement of civilians and it describes the layout and administration of interment camps. It clearly states on page 38 that it applies within U.S. territory and specifically addresses the detainment of U.S. citizens as is indicated by the identification procedures for new prisoners on page 146 which states that social security numbers are to be recorded along side their photograph and fingerprints. Included in the list of organizations which may be involved in these internment operations are the Department of Homeland Security, the FEMA, the Department of Defense and the United Nations.

On page 56 the document outlines the responsibilities of Psychological Operations officers within the camps among which it states that a Psyop officer "Develops and executes indoctrination programs to reduce or remove antagonistic attitudes. and Identifies political activists." On page 281 the document goes into more detail regarding the role Psychological Operations within the camps specifically in regards to pacifying the population and insuring cooperation.

On page 238 it gives the conditions for the use of deadly force in such camps, among the justifications for lethal force it includes to "terminate an active escape attempt". That point right there should make it clear that these camps are not benevolent disaster relief type facilities.

On page 244 the document calls for the use of snipers during riots to quote "scan a crowd and identify agitators and riot leaders for apprehension and fire lethal rounds if warranted".

On page 260 it shows the basic layout for a facility focusing on detainment. It is depicted with interrogation areas, tribunal areas and mortuaries. Each detainment facility is designed to hold 4000 prisoners and they are depicted with multiple levels of barbed wire separating compartments within the facilities with a double barbed wire fence enclosing them and 24 guard towers.

On page 261 it depicts the layout for what they call civilian resettlement facilities, which are designed to house 8,000 people. And though it uses the word resettlement the plans show multiple levels of barbed wire dividing the sections of the facility and double barbed wire fencing on the outside as well as 16 guard towers.

On page 262 the layout for facilities designed for what they call non-compliant prisoners is shown. These camps are designed to hold up to 300 prisoners, they have 3 interrogation centers and are guarded by 13 guard towers.

Now if there is any question whether these plans are active or are just theoretical this should settled by the fact that the U.S. army has been running ads for job positions in these camps since 2009 and apparently they are still hiring.

 

 

http://www.goarmy.com/careers-and-jobs/browse-career-and-job-categories/legal-and-law-enforcement/internment-resettlement-specialist.html

 

 

It's important to note here that this document was created in 2010, which was under the Obama administration, and it predates the NDAA of 2012 which authorized military detainment of U.S. citizens. This clearly shows a long term agenda at work.

 

Now if there is any question as to whether or not these residential centers exist:

 

 

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuW4ndLKhnk

[zerostao]

we should all fly to the moscow airport? and ask putin to let us stay?

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjYCW1BQC4Q

 

[eye_of_the_storm]

Edited August 4, 2013 by White Wolf Running On Air

[johndoe2012]

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Edited August 18, 2013 by chris d

[Thunder_Gooch]

You've got to have loads of money or a job skill that is hugely in demand and a B.S., or find someone to marry you to get out.

[thelerner]

 

[zerostao]

You've got to have loads of money or a job skill that is hugely in demand and a B.S., or find someone to marry you to get out.

these conditions may fit your current circumstances.

so, you mightve stated it like: i've got to have loads of money or a job skill that is hugely in demand and a B.S.,

or find someone to marry me to get out.

but mpg, it isnt always a one size fits all. some may see things/situations/opportunities differently and/or have a completely different set of circumstances. some may be willing to go without such a sense of having to have all the concrete certainties planned out. and even the best laid plans sometimes fall thru or sth changes and then what?

we all have unique realities.

some may feel what they need is a well equiped/stocked boat to get out. some may feel a decent pair of shoes is enuff.

i have been to other countires without loads of money, or a job, or job skill, or a BS and i reckon if i wanted to have stayed there longer it wouldnt have been a problem.

if someone actually thinks they are in a really bad situation where they currently are, i dont think they have to stick it out until everything is laid out perfect to go. snowdon didnt have everything worked out exactly but he knew it was time for him to go.

sure, snowden has bargaining chips and skilz, but those just illustrate his unique reality. we are all different. some folks can adapt to new realities/circumstances. some are chameleons.

[Vanir Thunder Dojo Tan]

mostly for US citizens

 

http://internationalliving.com/

 

http://www.escapeartist.com

 

how you can get a 2nd passport and so on

 

If passports in and of themselves are not proof that greed is king and humanity are pawns,then I don't know what is.

Hey pawns, make me your new king. fuck greed up the ass with a jagged rusty broken machete.

 

Oh, would you rather be pawns for a superpower and gaurentee your wretched continued suffering, or at least fight back and die on your feet instead of on your knees?

 

 

Scared?

Knees it is... you make me sad.

[Thunder_Gooch]

Zero,

 

What I stated wasn't subjective opinion, it's fact.

 

You can't just jump up and run to another country and expect to continue to live there as an illegal immigrant with no documentation.

 

That is not realistic.

 

You must have a marriage visa, or a work visa (which usually has steep requirements), or an investors visa which usually requires millions.

 

 

these conditions may fit your current circumstances.

so, you mightve stated it like: i've got to have loads of money or a job skill that is hugely in demand and a B.S.,

or find someone to marry me to get out.

but mpg, it isnt always a one size fits all. some may see things/situations/opportunities differently and/or have a completely different set of circumstances. some may be willing to go without such a sense of having to have all the concrete certainties planned out. and even the best laid plans sometimes fall thru and then what?

we all have unique realities.

some may feel what they need is a well equiped/stocked boat to get out. some may feel a decent pair of shoes is enuff.

i have been to other countires without loads of money, or a job, or job skill, or a BS and i reckon if i wanted to have stayed there longer it wouldnt have been a problem.

if someone actually thinks they are in a really bad situation where they currently are, i dont think they have to stick it out until everything is laid out perfect to go. snowdon didnt have everything worked out exactly but he knew it was time for him to go.

sure, snowden has bargaining chips and skilz, but those just illustrate his unique reality. we are all different. some folks can adapt to new realities/circumstances. some are chameleons.

Edited August 4, 2013 by More_Pie_Guy

[zerostao]

then i mustve just dreampt my past experiences mpg? they never really happened?

i admit you are taking a more conventional and sensible(subjectively becoz it does depend on unique set of circumstances)approach.

and that approach probably will fit more sizes than it does not.

i am just saying there are alternatives and we all do not have to expect the same level of comforts/situations/expectations. not all the countries out there have the same exact laws(or strict enforcement of) about staying. even here in america there is an underground network of enconomy,

the other countries i have visited also have an underground. there exist front doors, back doors, and trap doors. sliding glass doors, etc

within a year i will have a BA not a BS. i have a passport. i dont feel i am confined to your parameters.

i could even enroll in a grad school in another country, there are options and opportunities outside of the few you mention. i have friends in other countries. there are even bums that have invited me to come and stay. friends are a great resource. your initial post said to 'get out' getting out isnt so hard. i understand your perspective and getting out isnt what you are talking about. 'staying out' is. there is a difference.

i feel confident i can get out and stay out if i choose. all the rest is merely details.

 

[voidisyinyang]

[zerostao]

houses can be bought in detroit already for 1,500-5,000$.

these are american houses and no one is rushing in to buy them or live there.

[Thunder_Gooch]

How long did you live in a country illegally? How did you earn money? How much money did you earn? How did you find a place to stay?

 

 

then i mustve just dreampt my past experiences mpg? they never really happened?

i admit you are taking a more conventional and sensible(subjectively becoz it does depend on unique set of circumstances)approach.

and that approach probably will fit more sizes than it does not.

i am just saying there are alternatives and we all do not have to expect the same level of comforts/situations/expectations. not all the countries out there have the same exact laws(or strict enforcement of) about staying. even here in america there is an underground network of enconomy,

the other countries i have visited also have an underground. there exist front doors, back doors, and trap doors. sliding glass doors, etc

within a year i will have a BA not a BS. i have a passport. i dont feel i am confined to your parameters.

i could even enroll in a grad school in another country, there are options and opportunities outside of the few you mention. i have friends in other countries. there are even bums that have invited me to come and stay. friends are a great resource. your initial post said to 'get out' getting out isnt so hard. i understand your perspective and getting out isnt what you are talking about. 'staying out' is. there is a difference.

i feel confident i can get out and stay out if i choose. all the rest is merely details.