voidisyinyang Posted February 28, 2013 (edited) I am not dissing the real ones at all. I agree there are few which is a tragedy. Yeah I just tweeted Joe Rogan -- who seemingly prides himself in delving into all things mysterious a la mind-body transformation. Also Matt Staggs of http://disinfo.com fame. Sure martial arts and psychedelics but somehow real qigong masters have remained unnoticed by them. haha. Yeah I blogged on that Bruno Groening mass healing doc -- five hours long! Amazing master healer "god-man" like Yan Xin almost. http://fulllotusqigong.blogspot.com/2013/02/the-german-yan-xin-mass-miracle-healer.html Edited February 28, 2013 by pythagoreanfulllotus Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stigweard Posted February 28, 2013 FYI ... I am talking directly with Gary Clyman now so no need to endure with Dorian's nonsense. You can follow the conversation here on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/thefajinproject/permalink/506489909390069/ 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Owledge Posted February 28, 2013 FYI ... I am talking directly with Gary Clyman now so no need to endure with Dorian's nonsense. You can follow the conversation here on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/thefajinproject/permalink/506489909390069/ After reading the whole thread, I have to say... your avatar picture reminds me of John de Lancie http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0209496/ playing "Q" on Star Trek. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stigweard Posted February 28, 2013 After reading the whole thread, I have to say... your avatar picture reminds me of John de Lancie http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0209496/ playing "Q" on Star Trek. Bahhahaha !!! I shall take that as a compliment because Q rocks !! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chi 2012 Posted February 28, 2013 Owledge - are you the young "Thomas" from Germany that was annoying LittlePie when he was getting his emotional liposuction? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Owledge Posted February 28, 2013 (edited) Well, it looked more like he decided to be annoyed after his great idol was annoyed because he was the only person 'allowed' to talk (be all chatty actually), which he didn't state beforehand. I didn't even say anything that could have justified all the drama. Screaming in incredible pain with a towel in your mouth also doesn't make commenting on what's going around that easy. Gary was alternating between niceguy mode and asshole mode and when he was in the latter, anything I said was like fuel on the fire. He also likes calling various people "fucking idiots" when they're not present and/or when he can't help them. The only thing I felt sorry for are the two emotionally damaged dogs that didn't get the compassion they needed. I hope they are better now. Edited February 28, 2013 by Owledge 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
voidisyinyang Posted February 28, 2013 FYI ... I am talking directly with Gary Clyman now so no need to endure with Dorian's nonsense. You can follow the conversation here on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/thefajinproject/permalink/506489909390069/ For those of us not initiated into the secret world of facebook.... I imagine the conservation with Gary as something like this.... Fingertip? Nope. Palm. Palm? Yep. Sorry, only fingertip. btw -- I'll ask Jim Nance if he wants the $1.5 million finger tip money. haha. I think he'll probably say he's too busy healing people. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wells Posted February 28, 2013 (edited) For those of us not initiated into the secret world of facebook.... I imagine the conservation with Gary as something like this.... Fingertip? Nope. Palm. Palm? Yep. Sorry, only fingertip. btw -- I'll ask Jim Nance if he wants the $1.5 million finger tip money. haha. I think he'll probably say he's too busy healing people. A buddy gave me his facebook accout to watch it. The facebook "discussion" is pretty entertaining this far! If I would compare it to a fish tank: Gary = Shark Stuart, Garry & Co. = A pack of attacking Guppies! I guess I'll put a "best of" together in the end and post it here! Edited February 28, 2013 by Dorian Black Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wells Posted February 28, 2013 (edited) Obviously, Garry Hearfield (warriorbodybuddhamind) is jealous that he is not the center of attention...or that his DVD's are too bad to sell them to the prices that Gary can sell his! Edited February 28, 2013 by Dorian Black Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stigweard Posted February 28, 2013 A buddy gave me his facebook accout to watch it. The facebook "discussion" is pretty entertaining this far! If I would compare it to a fish tank: Gary = shark Stuart & Co. = Guppies! I guess I'll put a "best of" together in the end and post it here! Please Dorian, keep talking, you only serve to continue to prove "the level" Gary and groupies like yourself operate on. Yup Gary has been following the same worn out pattern: "brag, brag, brag, I'm the bomb, blah, blah, you are inferior because you can't do this, brag, brag, no I am not going to prove it, blah, blah, no I am not interested in winning $1.5million, blah, blah, blah." But I am sure people can make up their own minds: https://www.facebook.com/groups/thefajinproject/permalink/506489909390069/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wells Posted February 28, 2013 (edited) Where is the $1.5million? Various "skeptic" organizations across the globe have proffered up cash prizes for anyone who can prove they can perform paranormal abilities. The list can be found here: https://www.facebook.com/groups/thefajinproject/doc/454870574552003/ The total amount exceeds US$1.5million. Through this challenge the Admin of The Fajin Project Facebook Group will be helping any qualified claimant win this pool of prizes. ...and that's the reason why Stig didn't answer the questions concerning the alleged $1.5 million prize money! Stig will NOT pay it himself, but all the skeptic organisations of the world will happily accept the existence of Fajin and gladly pay collectively, when Stig shows them the objective video of CREDIBLE EVIDENCE of real Fajin, filmed by himself! Yeah, right! What a ridicolous FRAUD! Well done, Stig! This prooves only that you are willing to conceal important details to twist the facts according to your own agenda! ...AGAIN! And how will you actually guarantee, that all of these organisations will pay their prize moneys collectively to the master who passes your test?! Because it's logical that these organisations will NOT accept the proof you would present them! Every one of them would insist to test the master again by their own labs and scientists before they pay any money! So the master who passed your test would get nothing out of passing your test anyway but would have to invest much more time (and travel expenses) to get tested by all of these organisations again and again! And maybe their definitions of supernatural abilities are completely different, so they wouldn't accept real Fajin as a supernatural ability! I'm sure they would find ways to weasel out of the must to pay their prize money! So: In fact your test with the alleged prize money of $1.5 million is not only a complete fraud, because you won't pay any money anyway, your test is also completely UNNECESSARY & WORTHLESS, because the Fajin Master would have to take AND PASS the real tests of those organisations which lead to real prize money ANYWAYS...at least FIFTEEN more tests (see below list in next post)!!! The master would gain NOTHING AT ALL out of passing your ridicolous test! It seems to me that you want to make yourself much more important than you really are with suggesting false authority and false ability to guarantee real Fajin masters to get big prize money! => Your unnecessary "prize-moneyed" test is a COMPLETE FRAUD! Edited February 28, 2013 by Dorian Black Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wells Posted February 28, 2013 What a joke! Prize Money Available For Proof of Paranormal Abilities Von Stuart Shaw in The Fajin Project (Dateien) There's the James Randi Educational Foundation US$1,000,000 http://www.randi.org/site/index.php/1m-challenge.html There's the Australian Skeptics' AU$100,000 Prize http://www.skeptics.com.au/features/prize/ They also offer AU$20,000 as a "Spotter's Fee" There's the IIG's US$50,000 Challenge in California, USA They now have affiliates in Atlanta, GA and Washington, DC and are developing affiliates in Denver, CO, Calgary, Canada and probably other places as well. http://www.iigwest.org/challenge.html They also offer US$5,000 as a "Finder's Fee" There's the North Texas Skeptic's US$12,000 Challenge in the USA http://www.ntskeptics.org/challenge/challenge.htm There's Prabir Ghosh's 2,000,000 Rupee Challenge in India http://rationalistprabir.bravehost.com/ There's the Swedish 100,000SeK prize offered by Humanisterna http://www.humanisterna.se/index.php...d=27&Itemid=49 The Tampa Bay Skeptics offers a US$1000 prize in Florida, USA http://www.tampabayskeptics.org/challenges.html In Canada there's the CAN$10,000 from the Quebec Skeptics http://www.sceptiques.qc.ca/activites/defi In the UK, the ASKE organization offers £14,000 http://www.aske-skeptics.org.uk/challenge_rules.htm Tony Youens in the UK offers £5,000 http://www.tonyyouens.com/challenge.htm In Finland, Skepsis offers 10,000 Euros http://www.skepsis.fi/haaste/ The Fayetteville Freethinkers in Arkansas, USA offer a US$1000 prize http://fayfreethinkers.com/ There's a 1,000,000 Yuan prize in China offered by Sima Nan. This is his blog: http://blog.sina.com.cn/simanan The Belgian SKEPP organization offers a 10,500 Euro prize http://www.skepp.be/prijzen/de-sisyphus-prijs/ There's a €50,000 challenge offered by Irish mentalist/magician, Keith Barry. The announcement: http://www.independent.ie/lifestyle/...0-2258739.html and his website: www.keithbarry.com/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
voidisyinyang Posted February 28, 2013 (edited) What a joke! Wow I didn't have to pay you for you to prove to me the secret source of the $1.5 million!! haha. I love how all these "skeptic" prizes are all about meeting the special needs of the skeptics. Wow it took SIXTEEN PAGES just to find out the source of the $1.5 million. DANG. Talk about parasitical energy vampirism. But can Stig give females orgasms at a distance yet? haha. The 1950s still had "up-suck skeptics" - gotta love science. Edited February 28, 2013 by pythagoreanfulllotus 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
voidisyinyang Posted February 28, 2013 I reckon that's a level one siddhi, Drew. the record holder out of 300 men for ejaculation distance is eight feet -- sadly his name remains anonymous. Three quarters of ejaculate just sort of "slopped out" - didn't spurt or wasn't thrown with force. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wells Posted February 28, 2013 (edited) Wow it took SIXTEEN PAGES just to find out the source of the $1.5 million. Stig didn't tell us to be able to make us non-Facebook-users believe that he has some kind of authority over the money or that his test-fraud has any kind of worth! Both is not the case! the record holder out of 300 men for ejaculation distance is eight feet -- sadly his name remains anonymous. Three quarters of ejaculate just sort of "slopped out" - didn't spurt or wasn't thrown with force. Gary doesn't like to be in the spotlight, therefore he insisted that he would not be named in the Guinnes Book of World Records after he won this event! Edited February 28, 2013 by Dorian Black 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wells Posted February 28, 2013 (edited) From page FOUR of this thread: Stig, may I ask how the $ 1.5 million are financed and how the master can be sure to get the money if he demonstrates Jing successfully? Is there a contract? Is in the contract also the point defined that the random test subjects won't sue the master if they suffer bodily harm because of the transfer of power? Only an idiot would take your test if these points are not exactly defined and guaranteed! Stig, I skyped with Gary and he told me that he basically doesn't care for your scientific testing because he doesn't believe you that you can and will pay him the $ 1.5 million if he proves his Jing to you! I guess his scepticism is legitimate! Stig didn't care to clear up this all important issue in +12 pages until I had to find out by myself! And Gary was certainly right from the beginning with his intuition! What a sad testimony for Stig! Edited February 28, 2013 by Dorian Black Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vanir Thunder Dojo Tan Posted February 28, 2013 (edited) Bahhahaha !!! I shall take that as a compliment because Q rocks !! THAT'S WHAT IT IS!!! GAAAWWWWWD!!! Q!!! LMAO!ignore me, carry on, someone else noticed something i did, but unlike me, they didnt lack the association! thanks owl! I woulda said something myself if i could figure out what his avatar reminded me of! on topic:what is this test, and how can i attempt it in the privacy of my own home?I'm not in it for the money (not that i would turn it down) but im not a master of anything except maybe video games. and spilling static, level, still coffee without moving.Can i also meet this gary type person capable of these type things spoken of in this thread type area? Edited February 28, 2013 by Northern Avid Judo Ant Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Owledge Posted February 28, 2013 Now this clears up a lot! The biggest part of the money being from the Randi thing. Randi is an insincere moron, obsessed with proving that his beliefs are right. Offering other people's money as prize money is really a joke. It's Randi level. Yes, Judo Ant, Stig confessing to be an admirer of Q explains a lot, too. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stigweard Posted February 28, 2013 You are really funny Dorian, you continue to follow the script perfectly. Once again, instead of providing evidence of your claims about Gary Clyman, you are desperately looking for the escape route. Now you are trying to discredit The Fajin Challenge. Fine, go your hardest, I love having my claims thoroughly examined and "tested". ...and that's the reason why Stig didn't answer the questions concerning the alleged $1.5 million prize money! From the outset I have been completely open with providing links to everything. I choose to keep things "contained" at Facebook regarding this project so the process is properly "peer-reviewed". Once again here are the links:https://www.facebook.com/groups/thefajinproject/doc/454984937873900/https://www.facebook.com/groups/thefajinproject/doc/421119777927083/ Stig will NOT pay it himself, but all the skeptic organisations of the world will happily accept the existence of Fajin and gladly pay collectively, when Stig shows them the objective video of CREDIBLE EVIDENCE of real Fajin, filmed by himself! Yeah, right! And how will you actually guarantee, that all of these organisations will pay their prize moneys collectively to the master who passes your test?! Because it's logical that these organisations will NOT accept the proof you would present them! Every one of them would insist to test the master again by their own labs and scientists before they pay any money! So the master who passed your test would get nothing out of passing your test anyway but would have to invest much more time (and travel expenses) to get tested by all of these organisations again and again! And maybe their definitions of supernatural abilities are completely different, so they wouldn't accept real Fajin as a supernatural ability! I'm sure they would find ways to weasel out of the must to pay their prize money! So: In fact your test with the alleged prize money of $1.5 million is not only a complete fraud, because you won't pay any money anyway, your test is also completely UNNECESSARY & WORTHLESS, because the Fajin Master would have to take AND PASS the real tests of those organisations which lead to real prize money ANYWAYS...at least FIFTEEN more tests (see below list in next post)!!! The master would gain NOTHING AT ALL out of passing your ridicolous test! It seems to me that you want to make yourself much more important than you really are with suggesting false authority and false ability to guarantee real Fajin masters to get big prize money! => Your unnecessary "prize-moneyed" test is a COMPLETE FRAUD! Fraud: In criminal law, a fraud is an intentional deception made for personal gain or to damage another individual. I have in no case been deceptive, I have nothing to gain from this personally, and neither am I attempting to damage another individual. To the contrary, I have been completely transparent about everything and I am giving any and all "claimants" a chance to win $1.5million. It is all there listed in the documents. LOL ... and if a "fajin master" can really perform their "schtick" in a controlled environment, why on earth would they worry about having to perform it multiple times?? Every time they prove it they scoop up more money!!! Think about it ... we could line up Gary for a world tour just proving his "fajin" and he comes home with an extra $1.5million. If you don't think it is real, if you think it is a "fraud" ... TEST IT !! I am begging you to test it ... please. Let's line up one of those organizations right now ... I have their contacts ... get Gary agreeing to it and LETS GO.But no ... instead of testing it you will just keep shooting your mouth off wont you? You and your fellow groupies are just way too predictable. In comparison ... Gary is intentionally being deceptive (i.e. making claims whilst refusing to provide credible proof) for the purpose of charging his rather exorbitant fees and prices. Therefore Gary is engaging in fraudulent behavior. In short, unless Gary Clyman backs up his claims with credible proof he is a fraud and should be treated as such. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wells Posted February 28, 2013 Stig, I love how you gave Gary the additional possibility to advertise his great products in your "Fahjin Jerk Circle" and professional as he is, he profited sovereignly from it! Funny were also the little hyenas attacking the big lion because their dvd's don't sell as Gary's do! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wells Posted February 28, 2013 As usually, Gary proved sovereignly that he has bigger balls than the rest! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Owledge Posted February 28, 2013 (edited) In short, unless Gary Clyman backs up his claims with credible proof he is a fraud and should be treated as such. You assume anybody who doesn't hand you personally the kind of proof you ask for is a fraud? It's a convenient mindset, but not healthy. Your scepticism is on the border of becoming a belief system, making you one of the many fake sceptics (actually staunch non-believers). I strongly advise you read this text: http://dailygrail.com/features/the-myth-of-james-randis-million-dollar-challenge I have complete confidence in Randi ... not paying the million dollars even if someone makes him float through the room jedi-style. The only exception might be Randi waiting until the next superinflation hits and then personally handing the winner a 1-million-dollar-bill from his wallet. @Dorian You are a true fanboy. Edited March 1, 2013 by Owledge 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wells Posted February 28, 2013 You assume anybody who doesn't hand you personally the kind of proof you ask for is a fraud? It's a convenient mindset, but not healthy. Your scepticism is on the border of becoming a belief system, making you one of the many fake sceptics (actually staunch non-believers). I strongly advise you read this text: http://dailygrail.com/features/the-myth-of-james-randis-million-dollar-challenge Exactly! But in fact he is a strong beliver: A strong believer in his flawed world view! He created his test, which no one will ever care to attempt, to lock himself in his small world safely away from the reality of Fajin! @Dorian You are a true fanboy. No! Only a satisfied costumer/student who bought a great product from a great teacher! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Owledge Posted February 28, 2013 No! Only a satisfied costumer/student who bought a great product from a great teacher! Yeah right. That's why you admire and celebrate and cherish his unique personality so much and keep stating how superior he is in comparison to others. You have adopted some personality traits from him. Not an uncommon thing though for a student following a teacher's program. I'm wondering how much personality change comes from the Qi Gong itself. After all, its focus on grounding, forceful condensing, accumulation of raw power matches the characteristic personality. Might be the same process that causes many external martial artists to have an inflated ego. Too much focus on one side of the coin. All technique, no philosophy. Imagine a Bruce Lee who didn't care at all for philosophy and character building. He probably would have become an uncontrollable self-asorbed killing machine, bragging that he has the deadliest punch on earth, eventually wondering whether he can really rip someone's heart out and trying to replicate Mortal Kombat finishing moves out of curiosity and being drunk from his own awesomeness. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kasuku Posted February 28, 2013 look your challenge is stupid.... no one wants to waste their time debating or arguing with you... if youre in Australia go try knocking on john chang's door since its close by and maybe you can beg him to zap you... (or heal if your modest) its just a miracle you managed to spend 20 years in taiji without even having sensitivity (ting) to your own chi. and chi is not just feeling heat or tingling in the fingertips... sometimes it turns into thick buzzing liquid! and it ranges in temperature... from white hot to cool and moist 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
