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The names are repetitive. They have no meaning.

 

 

Hi!

 

I know that Grandmaster Doo Wai says in the 2nd Level DVD (produced 2004 by Rizzos White Tiger Kungfu, $19.95): "You have to understand that there's going to be similar names, but different meditations." He says that right before demonstrating the first of 4 meditations.

 

Perhaps he's saying the same thing that Sillum just said here? [And perhaps Sifu Garry's thinking of "names" in a different way, or from a different point of view.]

 

I may be the only person on the forum right now who has watched this video. I treasure having it and seeing the Grandmaster. After I'm proficient with the meditations on Sifu Terry's DVDs, I plan to learn the 4 meditations the Grandmaster demonstrates, since I'm not in a position to travel and study personally with anyone and have to depend on whatever authentic video instruction is available.

 

I appreciate hearing the thoughts of any advanced students of Grandmaster. And once again I'm very grateful to Sifu Terry for publishing a full series of DVDs with the fundamental teaching and practice for Flying Phoenix.

 

Namaste,

Dale

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You dont need any FP to learn to see aura's, Ive seen them all my life and ghost/spirits. I taught a kung fu sifu (friend) of mine to see auras when I was asked to help a young boy 16 that was cancer patient with Burning Palm Healing for a chinese family. I Never had to do 17 levels for over 600 meditation of 18 levels 18 standing 18 standing meditation. Showed him how to see auras in 2 mins..... :wacko:

 

This is taken from our website regarding testimonials!

 

Garry,

 

I'd like to thank you for sharing your burning palms energy healing work with my girlfriends & I. Observing and experiencing your very powerful energy work was something I really appreciate & value. Over the years I have experienced some life changing energy work and yours is at another level. Your years of experience, and the feelings we each had after your healing hands will bring you much work through referral in the future. We felt energised and where thrilled to learn about our Aura's.

 

Warm regards

 

Shari Carr

 

I didnt post that to show off, but the proof that I am not making this up!

 

 

Im not hating on you Silum, but some things just dont fit right for me in your post, please dont take this wrong. We are all brothers and since you wont tell us who you are than really I dont think you are here to share FP at all?

 

 

Sifu Garry

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Monk viewing the moon has a meaning and purpose pertaining to inner and out alchemy, I dont know about FP monk viewing moon, but in BP I was taught visualizations and emptiness on certain postures. The names also represent the alchemical process inside the brain. The Moon and the posture is magnetic and works on pulling the 3rd eye open ( thats my experience) plus other stuff I will not share. Doing it seated, standing, lying down, kneeling will all effect the alchemical process due to its energetic make up.

 

But it certainly has a meaning to Burning Palm as it works with the elements inside and out!

 

 

my 2 cents worth

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Monk viewing the moon has a meaning and purpose pertaining to inner and out alchemy, I dont know about FP monk viewing moon, but in BP I was taught visualizations and emptiness on certain postures. The names also represent the alchemical process inside the brain. The Moon and the posture is magnetic and works on pulling the 3rd eye open ( thats my experience) plus other stuff I will not share. Doing it seated, standing, lying down, kneeling will all effect the alchemical process due to its energetic make up.

 

But it certainly has a meaning to Burning Palm as it works with the elements inside and out!

 

 

my 2 cents worth

 

Thanks great!!! I just do the meditations and have not been concerned about that stuff. It wonderful that you learned it. Whether one knows that information or not with the breath control they will still get the same results. I know a lot of other meditations and the iron palms meditations etc but never learned any visualizations. Great for you Garry!

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Im not frustrated at all, just giving my experience with the footage of Sifu and how its taught, like I said each to there own and all that matters is what you think is right. ;)

 

I never said the FP wasnt good its very good I wouldnt be here sharing what I know of what I have and what ive spoken to Sifu about, ive saved all my conversations with Sifu in files. Things not always look as it seems...

 

AND for "Threatened" in which way you implying?

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Im not frustrated at all, just giving my experience with the footage of Sifu and how its taught, like I said each to there own and all that matters is what you think is right. wink.gif

 

I never said the FP wasnt good its very good I wouldnt be here sharing what I know of what I have and what ive spoken to Sifu about, ive saved all my conversations with Sifu in files. Things not always look as it seems...

 

AND for "Threatened" in which way you implying?

 

Nothing!

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Hello Everyone,

Once again, many thanks for sharing your FP experiences, this has been most inspiring for me, a newbie - From what you have seen, is there any particular energy center that is emphasized in this system, or are all the energy centers giving equal attention?

 

I have also been impressed with GM Doo Wai's knowledge of the role of diet along with FP for promoting overall health, I don't see this very often revealed from other teachers - Are there any general dietary guidelines that the FP school embraces? Any recommended body tonics, such as Shou Wu Chih?

Best,

Rene'

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Hello All,

One more question: If I do calesthenic exercises in the morning (such as pushups, chins, squats,etc), is it better to to FP before or after physical exercises?

Thanks,

Rene'

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Taking a quick break from FP Qigong discussion to direct y'all to pay a little attention to very significant world events and to meditate deeply on them. What's happening in Egypt is more than a regime change forced by a mass hunger for democracy. Old, very old ancient spirits are underneath and fueling that massive uprising...so be alert to the spiritual fall-out further down the road after the mundane political conflict has been resolved and new Egyptian government put in place. Hint as to reason why: Egypt is the source of all alchemy and oracles--including the Chinese traditions.

 

But for the moment, it's time to celebrate with the rest of the world the start of liberation of the Egyptian people...and pray that they get through what's sure to be a chaotic, unlit and tricky passage to a new stable government.

Peaceful revolution in Egypt, jubilation in the streets of Cairo––reflected by an I Ching reading that I cast Wednesday night: Peace [hexagram #11] changing to Taming Power of the Small [hexagram #9] (5th and 6th lines moving). Carefully read the 6th moving line atop Peace (#11):

 

"The wall falls back into the moat; use no army now."

 

Mubarek obviously saw this writing on the wall in his own way.

 

This is an example of the profound and wonderfully synchronistic clarity of the I Ching oracle, invokable by any straightforward mind.

 

Moreover, Egypt's deposing of this last pharoah, Mubarek, which occurred today falls exactly 32 years after the date that the Iranian people overthrew the Shah. That's 32 years ago to this very day :excl: :excl: :excl:

 

The I Ching can be used as a powerful guide to anyone on the Path of Knowledge, and can teach you to become your own master teacher. It's your art, your alchemy. Learn it correctly and then make it work for yourself.

 

One of the 64 hexagrams of the I Ching is #4: Youthful Folly. It responds to spirits who are importune. i.e., people who ask the same question over and over even though they have been given the answer or have answer sitting in front of them the whole time. That is one of the reasons why Confucius advised that no one under 40 years old should use the I Ching--because of youth's compulsiveness and impatience only wastes energy and causes guiding and protective spirits to push away. I happen to disagree with Confucius, for I believe that there's nothing wrong in using the I Ching however one needs to use it. You will always get the necessary lesson for Karma is inescapable. If one is importune, the I Ching gives you a very provocative, usually funny slap-in-the-face answer that will straighten your head. If you squandor your Free Will and waste your Qi nativum using the oracle (any oracle) irresponsibly, becoming more and more self-deluded, the world will respond to you accordingly. And if one acts on one's self-delusions to the extent of blaspheming the oracle or any oracle, it will run enough Kaballah Juice up one of your orifices so that you learn never to do that again and if you don't learn that lesson, your karma arrives instantly with life turning into hell-on-earth, and then you meet your Death a little earlier--and usually go out in a stupid and colorful way. I have witnessed this type of passage more than once in persons supposedly on the Path--including former students of GM Doo Wai. It's called learning life's lessons the hardest way possible: in one's next life. And that is a fate that anyone with basic common sense--let alone commitment to the Taoist or Buddhist path of growth and learning--can easily avoid.

 

Just some general advice today to improve your practice of Flying Phoenix Qigong and your life: assume responsibility for your training and arm yourself with wisdom and discernment. Work hard, put in your time, play the kung-fu, and always remember this eternally true maxim of the Chinese martial arts:

 

When you are ready, the Knowledge will be made available to you.

Sifu Terry Dunn

 

P.S. BTW, "oracle" above does not mean just divinatory tools or prophets (I Ching, tarot cards, the Bible, Tao Te Ching, Koran, oracle of Delphi, Nostradamus, Edgar Cayce etc.)--but in our context, "oracle" means ANY ancient Chinese tradition of martial, yogic, healing, or spiritual knowledge. Hence blaspheming an oracle means doing anything that misrepresents, misappropriates for one's selfish motives, dishonors or insults the ancestral tradition of the particular art. Such actions incur a karmic debt, as I have outlined above, because the tradition far out-lives the living master or grandmaster heading that tradition and is more important to respect than the living master or grandmaster heading that tradition.

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Taking a quick break from FP Qigong discussion to direct y'all to pay a little attention to very significant world events and to meditate deeply on them.

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Wow.

 

What a rich and multi layered essay. Will re read again.

 

Deep bow.

 

thank you.

 

Craig

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Sifu Terry,

 

I have to say thank you for bringing this qigong to light.

 

I want to give a big bump to everything said so far, that this is a very powerful qigong.

 

I've had times when doing it where I would feel extreme emotion come up, or when afterwards my girlfriend would scratch me and I would be super sensitive from the energy.

 

Either way, I've noticed it healing a shoulder injury that had been lingering and opening up very tight areas in my back, and groin area.

 

I had doubts to that it was a specific energy... but it is. It's also brought me to awareness around the different energies that other qigong's cultivate.

 

Do you know if this is compatible with Jenny Lamb's yi gong?

 

The energy it cultivates feels more vibrating, and people have called it more magnetic and is aimed at awareness then healing (from what she says), where FP this energy feels very cool and soothing and you've said aimed at just healing.

 

I find myself wanting to do this practice, and follow up with a neigong meditation (yigong) but not wanting to hurt myself with different energy and the like due to energy incompatibility???

 

Basically I don't want my ignorance to hurt me.

 

What kind of energy is incompatible with FPQG?

 

How would you tell?

 

What would happen if I did?

 

Thanks,

John

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Do you know if this is compatible with Jenny Lamb's yi gong?

 

The energy it cultivates feels more vibrating, and people have called it more magnetic and is aimed at awareness then healing (from what she says), where FP this energy feels very cool and soothing and you've said aimed at just healing.

 

I find myself wanting to do this practice, and follow up with a neigong meditation (yigong) but not wanting to hurt myself with different energy and the like due to energy incompatibility???

 

Basically I don't want my ignorance to hurt me.

 

What kind of energy is incompatible with FPQG?

 

How would you tell?

 

What would happen if I did?

 

Thanks,

John

 

John,

 

I am also doing Yi Gong now, only one week under the belt but I have not felt any side effects other than GOOD side effects: especially in the back feels like more open now due to Yi Gong.

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Hi Sihing Terry,

 

Just letting you know Im bowing out of this discussion and If you need to contact me bro you know where to get me. Hope everyone studies the FP on a final note, its better to get your foundations from Sifu Terry than to start half way through the FP for many reason apart the obvious. After that if you seek information of GMDW be very careful of what and who you buy from, cause much of the information that is out is not explained and you can try and put the puzzel together but your many hrs of study will be fruitless. Seek the information from a teacher that specialises in such work.

 

All the very best! :)

 

Sifu Garry

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Hello Sifu Garry,

 

Thank you for all your contributions here in this thread.

I hope you will be back soon or at least won't be too far away.

 

I bow out of respect for the tremendous knowledge you have.

 

Best, _/\_

Fachao

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Sifu Garry -

 

You will very much be missed. You started your contributions very early in this thread.

 

I hope you drop in from time to time, as your comments and perspectives are always appreciated.

 

In the meantime, I will continue remember your advice: "Persistence!".

 

Best wishes always,

 

Lloyd

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Rene -

 

I can weigh in on your question as to whether it would be better to do FP first in the morning before pushups, pull ups, etc.

 

I will draw from my experience. About 15 years ago, I took a legitimate kung fu (Wah Lum Northern Praying Mantis Style). The Master, Chan Poi, taught both tai chi and kung fu. Master Chan would always have us do tai chi first, and then the kung fu. That seemed to work very well. Master Chan did not want to see tight muscles during tai chi, as he wanted the movements to be smooth and fluid.

 

So, if I can extrapolate from that experience, you should do Flying Phoenix first, for the same reason. If you do the FP meditations first then your movements will be more fluid, smooth and flowing. Doing the harder yang exercises (push ups, pull ups, etc.) after FP would seem to make more sense.

 

Hope this helps.

 

Lloyd

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Rene -

 

I can weigh in on your question as to whether it would be better to do FP first in the morning before pushups, pull ups, etc.

 

I will draw from my experience. About 15 years ago, I took a legitimate kung fu (Wah Lum Northern Praying Mantis Style). The Master, Chan Poi, taught both tai chi and kung fu. Master Chan would always have us do tai chi first, and then the kung fu. That seemed to work very well. Master Chan did not want to see tight muscles during tai chi, as he wanted the movements to be smooth and fluid.

 

So, if I can extrapolate from that experience, you should do Flying Phoenix first, for the same reason. If you do the FP meditations first then your movements will be more fluid, smooth and flowing. Doing the harder yang exercises (push ups, pull ups, etc.) after FP would seem to make more sense.

 

Hope this helps.

 

Lloyd

 

Hello Lloyd,

Many thanks for your input, this helps a lot. I hope all is rockin' with your training.

Best,R

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