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Welp, that was fun while it lasted Tin Yat, you can stay with us, it's easy for mods to change your name, you just have to ask

I remember "Mak Tin Si" (Mak Jo Si) from when he used to post here a few years back, so after seeing this thread I was curious what he is up to now and did some searching on Tin Yat and Mak Jo Si and found this exchange going on in another forum. Read through the following thread on that forum. Mak Jo Si's and some of his sect member's comments are quite eye opening to say the least. I thought I was reading a copy of a script from Goodfellas or The Godfather there for a while. Mama mia! The thread starts off sounding fairly reasonable, but if you read right through the entire thread it really is an eye opener. Mak Jo Si or Tin Yat Lineage Taoism Q and A http://taouncut.forum.com.bz/t31-mak-jo-si-or-tin-yat-lineage-taoism-q-and-a

Breathing practices...depends on what you're practicing I should clear up a few definitions before I proceed. As I understand it, many schools perceive 'pre-heaven chi' as hormones, or genetic predispoition, that sort of thing. Pre-heaven chi, in our view, is a bit more complicated - it's the stuff that comes from outside the physical world as we see it. 'Post-heaven chi' is, of course, food and air, the stuff you take in physically after birth. We're on the same page there. For the cultivation of Taoist magic, we devlop our ability to tap into 'faat', which is a form of pre-heaven energy. Simply put, it's a pure energy source accessed from the Celestial Realm, made available to official members of the lineage. We access this through the use of spells - handsigns, fu, activated weapons, and the like. Our level of access is determined by a lot of factors - regular use of the magics, cultivation, adherence to our protocols - but this is not cultivated through breathing practices, because it comes from an extra-physical source. It's something we devlop through intention and use. Pre-heaven energies can also be drawn from outside of the earth - planetary energies, that sort of thing. But, our bodies aren't really designed to handle that without a proper filter in place, so it's not a good thing to do. It's like trying to breathe water - fine for fish, not so good for us. For post-heaven chi - most of us practice chi kung, but it isn't a requirement. Anyone of any religion can practice chi kung, so we don't think of it as a 'Taoist' practice in the religious sense. Meaning, it's good and it's encouraged, but you don't have to practice chi kung to be a Tin Yat Taoist. We aren't blazing new ground there, it's a lot of 'try it and see what works', you know how that goes. One breathing pattern that we do use a lot, we call it 'real chi breathing', is to inhale for four seconds, hold for one second, exhale for six seconds. We use this to blend and circulate chi.

If Mak Tin So can call himself a Master, then so can I. Please refer to me as Master Aaron from now on. Aaron

Cheers Tin Yat Taoist, I don't like Tao Uncut but thanks for the info.

That is a really tough question to answer satisfactorily, but I'll do my best! When it comes to things like martial and healing arts, you are indeed correct - most of your results are immediately visible. That isn't always the case, though - anyone who's ever had to drink a particularly vile TCM tea for any length of time will know that you have to sometimes show patience and watch for results. With our magical cultivation, it has a lot to do with being tuned to your own perception, and evaluating your results immediately and over time. The immediate - particularly sensitive people, and people that have cultivated for a good length of time, will often feel sensations of heat - flashes of warmth, or even breaking into a sweat when working with magic. some feel tingles, some see flashes of light behind their eyes. Generally, if its the sort of thing you'd categorize as a 'yang' manifestation - heat, light, white, etc - it's a good thing. Cold, dark, sinking, yin - indicates a negative presence or influence, and is to be avoided. In the long term, you have to look at the progress of your life and well-being. As mentioned before, our magic is intended for spiritual cleaning, improving the souls and spirits, and as a consequence this sort of thing tends to make one's life flow smoother, makes decisions more clear, makes the right job easier to find, that sort of thing. If you look at the testimonials that have been put forth by some of the TIn Yat students, you can see this recurring theme - escaped a shitty job and got a much better one, found my way out of a bad relationship, things of that nature. I know that these are somewhat ephemeral descriptions, but part of the difficulty is in trying to explain something to someone who hasnt experienced it. How do you describe 'blue' to a blind man? I hope this helps, and feel free to ask for elaboration if there's a point I can help with.

Hello Tin Yat Taoist, Sounds like fun. Would make a great anime series. But I'm curious, how does your lineage distinguish reality from illusion (分真假)? And how do you verify your theory with reality (证明)? These are problems in any cultivation practice and one of the reasons so many daoists are drawn to martial and healing arts. Both fields provide plenty of humbling experiences that push a person to further refine their understanding. Failure makes a fertile substrate for progress. But in the case of exorcism, dieties, writing fu and other magical how do you know when you get it right and when you don't?

Marblehead - Okay, root premises. Please let me know if this helps, or if you would like elaboration or clarification at any point. Tin Yat is a conceptually modern Taoist lineage. While we respect historical Taoism, one of the problems we perceive is that it has been too often blended or taken entirely off course by Buddhist, Christian, Bon Po, and other influences. As I mentioned above, we believe that the path requires purity of intention to be effective and that's why we don't support the other religions. We don't have any particular problem with them, but we don't generally think they're on the right track. Our magical system reflects this idea. We are purifiers - we exorcise, we destroy spirits and negative energy, and we protect ourselves from those and from negative magic. We don't have offensive magics to use against people, but we can and do reflect ill-intended attacks back to their sources. Part of the modern concept of Tin Yat Taoism is that we do not restrict our cultivation and use of magical tools to the traditional swords, fu, etc. Airguns and flashlights are among the more common modern tools we use, and I respectfully submit that, if there had been access to our technology 2000+ years ago, the original Taoists would have happily included such things in their arsenal. In our lineage, the altar is perceived as a workspace, more like a mainframe terminal than a place of worship. Deities are perceived as influential beings that exist in another space or dimension, who are willing to assist us when asked politely. Sacrifices and worship are not required, just positive intention and respect. Like any other lineage, a person has to be a registered believer or member to have access to such things. Mak Jo Si and Lau Jo Si have also taken an approach that is a reverse of the common model of a Taoist temple: If you have a desire to learn and train in our magical system, a ton of information is free and available through the website, and they are happy to answer sincere, respectful questions and help the learning process. If you want them to provide you with their magical services, they charge for the fu. It seems reasonable to me, but I know there are people that disagree. I hope this was the sort of information you were looking for, feel free to ask if there's anything you'd like me to add or clarify!

Sorry I'm slow to respond today, life away from the net has been demanding. Marblehead - Wow, that's pretty open. give me a few minutes to formulate a response Leif - I perceive that first one as a difficulty of translation. What it boils down to for a member of the lineage such as myself, is that it is counterproductive to try and follow more than one path at a time. put equal parts gasoline, motor oil, and water into your gas tank, and the car isnt going anywhere. On a personal, not-a-spokesman level, my opinion is that you should try things out that seem right and see if they work for you. Tin Yat has worked well for me, and that's why I'm affiliated. In the official capacity, we aren't really going out of our way to research every path of every religion out there to verify them, since we have our path and it works fine for us. The recent kerfuffles regarding Luk Yam are from Mak Jo Si's personal experience and knowledge of their system. Second - You have to judge for yourself and see what seems right to you. I was pretty cautious when I first encountered Mak Jo Si myself, but he was patient and more than happy to answer questions for me. With Tin Yat, you can also start out at the 'registered believer' stage and see how it works out for you, no commitment, no strings attached. And at any stage in training and cultivation, you're free to leave if you feel that it's what you need to do. Third - you'd have to clarify what those two terms mean to you, for me to be able to answer that one clearly. That's his title in our lineage.

I only have three questions. According to the Bad Paths scripture (located on Chi in Nature website) authored by the Tin Yat ™ co-founder aka "cheerful and friendly 100% truly pure Taoism Master who hates evils" (and who is offering "100% effective with no side effects" services, that quite caught my interest), Buddhism, Christianity, Islam, Bon Po and Hinduism (and tens of others) are all completely evil. Is Tin Yat ™ the only path that could possibly save me, or are there some paths that passed the scrutiny so far and that Tin Yat lineage accepts as non-evil if not equal? For those that can't afford long travel to Ontario at this time, can you as a Tin Yat ™ student offer some tips on how do they recognize real "100% truly pure Taoism Master" from all those available where they live? Is Mak Jo Si just a master or actually a celestial master (given his email address is celestialmastermak)?

My altar is in my bedroom, because it's the only place I have space in my current home, and actually happens to be oriented north. I agree about the privacy consideration - though we at Tin Yat don't have a formal policy one way or the other on that aspect, it's not something I want to have to explain to guests, or to have to deal with people poking at it.

Thanks for the opportunity! IF any of my answers arent clear enough or sufficient, just let me know. The Tin Yat lineage was co-founded in 2009 by Mak Jo Si and Lau Jo Si. Several longer-term members here may remember the former lineage, Ng Yin Do Pai, that had been formed in 2008. They had started it with the best of intentions, but determined that it was best to end that lineage and reform as Tin Yat. That situation is a bit more complicated, and if people really want I will do my best to explain it, but the short version is that negative influences early on had poisoned the process for them, and the best course of action was to cut it free and start over. 'Tin Yat' is Cantonese, spelled 天一 in Hanzi, and also pronounced 'Tian Yi' in Mandarin. It roughly translates as 'first in heaven'.

The general Tin Yat opinion on the home altar is that its specific placement isn't terribly important, we generally recommend somewhere near a nice source of natural light, in a room or at least an area that is maintained and kept tidy. It probably goes without saying that the kitchen and bathroom are not good places, but...the kitchen and bathroom are not good places. There, I said it.

Tin Yat Taoist, again let me thank you for your understanding and your patience. i have confirmed that you are indeed a student of Mak Jo Si. i look forward to an informative thread here. i will start things off, when did Tin Yat sect begin and what does Tin Yat mean?

Hello everyone, I am a student of the Tin Yat Taoism lineage, and I started an account so that people would have access to a real, confirmed member of our group if you would like to ask questions or have anything clarified. Please, feel free to ask questions, and if I don't know the answer, I'll get one for you.

The problem is while the guide is not lost (and never lost), people here do not know where that guide is. Towel is very important to the scheme of things and to life. Allow me to quote from Douglas Adams A towel, it says, is about the most massively useful thing an interstellar hitchhiker can have. Partly it has great practical value. You can wrap it around you for warmth as you bound across the cold moons of Jaglan Beta; you can lie on it on the brilliant marble-sanded beaches of Santraginus V, inhaling the heady sea vapours; you can sleep under it beneath the stars which shine so redly on the desert world of Kakrafoon; use it to sail a miniraft down the slow heavy River Moth; wet it for use in hand-to-hand-combat; wrap it round your head to ward off noxious fumes or avoid the gaze of the Ravenous Bugblatter Beast of Traal (such a mind-bogglingly stupid animal, it assumes that if you can't see it, it can't see you); you can wave your towel in emergencies as a distress signal, and of course dry yourself off with it if it still seems to be clean enough. More importantly, a towel has immense psychological value. For some reason, if a strag (strag: non-hitch hiker) discovers that a hitchhiker has his towel with him, he will automatically assume that he is also in possession of a toothbrush, face flannel, soap, tin of biscuits, flask, compass, map, ball of string, gnat spray, wet weather gear, space suit etc., etc. Furthermore, the strag will then happily lend the hitch hiker any of these or a dozen other items that the hitch hiker might accidentally have "lost." What the strag will think is that any man who can hitch the length and breadth of the galaxy, rough it, slum it, struggle against terrible odds, win through, and still knows where his towel is, is clearly a man to be reckoned with. Hence a phrase that has passed into hitchhiking slang, as in "Hey, you sass that hoopy Ford Prefect? There's a frood who really knows where his towel is." (Sass: know, be aware of, meet, have sex with; hoopy: really together guy; frood: really amazingly together guy.) [3] —Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy Idiot on the Path

The same one as Mak Tin Si, bodyoflight, tulku etc etc

Hi, I think that finally we are beginning to find some real Taoists in Tao Bums. I'm in China where almost everyone I know is either Taoist or Buddhist. Taoists are more concerned with their family. Buddhism is simply a philosophy of taking responsibility for your actions/family etc... The alter is simply a place where you go to pray/talk to the ones you have lost to the natural causes of living life. It can be many, many centuries or even very recent since their passing. Here is a webpage for the Ching Ming Festival, which is a national Taoist holiday in China that will give you the timings: http://www.timeanddate.com/holidays/hong-kong/ching-ming-festival Holidays in China follow celestial events like sun, stars and moon proximity to the earth (Spring, Winter, Fall and Summer.) Women can time the beginning and end of their monthly menstruation cycle with this knowledge Here is my wife's family name, in Chinese, which shows her ancestry going back over 2,000 years to Wong Di, the Chinese Emperor that 黄 stopped the wars between the states in China, that was destroying China, with the philosophy "Tin Hau" or peace under one roof. Since that time, China has not attacked any other nation with warring intentions. Here's a webpage for the Taoist religious center in Hong Kong as well as the location of the Taoist Cannon or Library of family records: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wong_Tai_Sin_Temple We can continue this subject within the Tao Bums website if you like.

Every home has its own - very expensive - albeit small shrine where they pray to their ancestors <-This is the essence of Taoist/Buddhist religion throughout China. Simply put, it is up close and personal Here is a very popular Taoist temple for the masses - The Taoist side is free to go in but the Buddhist side costs 2Hong Kong dollars (about 50 cents for the upkeep of the grounds - which are extremely immaculate - with two - 3 story tall waterfalls, that mask out the noise of a busy city close by and small meditation temples for individuals) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wong_Tai_Sin_Temple <=This one is in Hong Kong but they are scattered throughout China - some are -extremely large- and this one is not small. I can take a bus from where my wife and I live to the temple for about 5 US cents. A Taxi is more expensive. The family Wong, that the temple is named after was the family of Wong Di - the emperor that created the philosophy - Tin Hau - or "all under heaven" which ended the warring period that was destroying China. Jet Li made a -very good- movie, and historically, accurate, about this under the title 'Hero' where he carries out the emperor Huang Di's wishes to help preserve China. The Historic period that the movie was set in was 2,000 years ago - and China has not attacked any other nations since -Although China does defend its borders in Vietnam, Korea, Tibet etc... So you can see that Taoism and Buddhism are both about family - and largely set toward the philosophy of reincarnation as described in the book "The Secret of The Golden Flower." How popular is this temple? There are a few hawkers selling incense and popular religious artifacts at the gate that are like fake paper money, fake phones, fake shoes, clothes etc. that the families want their passed loved ones to have in their afterlife. When I went there the air by the temple was so thick with incense smoke that at times it was difficult to breathe. Enough for now.

I hate to reveal my skill-level as there are many kung fu fighters here who are intent on giving me a deadly blow. But I do want to benefit from your level of Chinese scholarship which is superior to mine. I can read Chinese but not at a proficient classical level. I have Chinese ancestry traceable back 14 generations as recorded in our family tree that identifies the station and profession of my forbears who were Mandarins and scholars. This academic lineage has inspired me from the day I set eyes on calligraphic work (kept in family archive) composed by ancestors for the Imperial Exams. Great-grandfather, a contemporary of the likes of John Wu, was headmaster of schools he founded in Guangzhou and Hong Kong. His successful sons (who were the patrons and supporters of Dr. Sun Yat Sen) mounted a media campaign in support of the revolution through the Chinese newspapers they own throughout South-East Asia. I tell you this so you know that I am not just a western-educated mutt who is curious in airy-fairy Chinese spiritual nonsense. I have a filial commitment to reclaim my roots. Please proceed with your discussion. I look forward to learning what you have to offer to me and others..

This is major Tom to ground control, I'm stepping through the door And I'm floating in a most peculiar way And the stars look very different today Here am I sitting in a tin can far above the world Planet Earth is blue and there's nothing I can do

http://www.taoistmas...ategory/lukyam/ The above is part of the blog of Mak Jo Si. I know him and Mak Tin Si really don't have a stellar reputation on this forum (especially Mak Tin Si's incessant spamming of the entire forums back in the day), but I have to say, here in Mak Jo Si's blog, the man really does seem to make a lot of sense, and in particular, his treatment and analysis towards popular chinese folk beliefs and deity-worship, because it seems as though he actually took the time to examine from where and when each particular belief comes from. The link above is an interesting read. Check out the link above to read the full articles, but in essence, the gist of it is something as follows: 1.Chinese folk beliefs and deities are as numerous as specks of sand on a beach. 2.Many if not most of these people who actually are worshiping these said deities, have no idea who these deities really are, mostly because it was a hand-me down belief systecm. 3.Most chinese folk adopt a utilitarian approach to deity-worship (bring us good fortune, money, etc) 4. Many of these deities are misappropriated in many different ways (mixing buddhist saints with taoist saints etc, Guan Yu being worshipped alongside Guan Yin despite the two of them having no logical relation whatsoever) 5.In fact a lot of the deities that are depicted and worshipped in traditional chinese culture are in fact just ficititious entities created in different popular novels (three kingdoms novel, journey to the west etc) which been deified through popular culture. Now anyhow, to get this straight, I do not necessarilycondone any of the Maks beliefs, Chi in Nature ltd, or any of their crazier stuff (all other religions are bad, bullshit, will get you possessed, taoism is the ONLY way etc), however, in this portion of the blog, Mak Jo Si really does seem to hit hard against chinese folk beliefs that from his perspective seem rather pointless.. So nevertheless despite some of the nuttier stuff in this group and their blog, I do find this bit of it particularly refreshing and somewhat a more logical approach to the folk chinese beliefs and pantheons etc. For better context, read the blog above, and discuss the topic.

For many months and years I had left this forum, I have been recieving many e-mails over time regarding me and my Taoism temple. I had decided to post in this forum just for those who want to reach me and know what I am up to and so on. If you wish you know about my past, read Mak Tin Si / Mak Jo Si Biography If you wish to know about my temple, visit Chi in Nature Ltd. Taoism Temple Website. We are not a charity or religious organization. We incorporated our business since 2006 as Chi in Nature Ltd. and therefore we are a business (for profit) and so we do not offer free service or free teachings. Do not inquire about free service or teachings. Everything is open and posted online in our website clearly, just read it literally and it have no hidden message or hidden meanings of any kinds. If you wish to read about Taoism, visit Taoist Master BLOG (my blog). There are tons of stuff about Taoism, magic exposed, etc,. Everything you want to know about the Taoism all over the world. If you wish to see me online, please visit my Youtube Channel. I have tons of videos up and our channel is very popular with over 2000+ subscribers. I had uploaded over 600 videos myself related to my hobby, kung fu, chi kung and Taoism. Enjoy as you wish. FOR THOSE WHO WANT TO KNOW ABOUT "YODA" or Kyle B. http://youtu.be/xz-Wlaaw_o0 Proudly presented Kyle B. (Tin Yang) -- Click into the link and see his current status and so on. He have been with me, learning under Tin Yat Lineage and ordained as a Taoist since long time ago. If you wish to see his most recent testimonial about his experience with our lineage and magic, see Kyle B Testimonial on YouTube. **Some had been saying that our magic is not real and we are scamming people** 1) Do not abuse, insult or bullsh!t without knowing about what Taoism really is. 2) Read our website, everything is clearly written right now for you to read about us. 3) Want to see some others who had experienced our magic? see Testimonials of Chi in Nature and Mak Jo Si YouTube 4) Most people who had bad mouthed Mak Jo Si (me) are mostly bullsh!ting out of the blue or they are Chan's Buddhist and Tibetan Buddhist who are trying to bad mouth Taoism sect with their dirty mouth. Ignore it or just approach us and see the truth yourself, everything is clearly presented on the website and blog. Who is a fraud? You can see it yourself. I am in business since 2006 and our temple is a real location with real people, it's not s scam. Our website is very open and clear for all the read and understand before they purchase or decide to pay for anything like exorcism or other service. There is no scam at all. What you see is what you buy, what you buy is what you get. Period. 5) I had been in Luk Yam Shen Gong Sect (scammed badly but became a master level guy, I followed a few different Sifu(s) before), graduated from Mao Shan Sheung Ching Sect 茅山上清宗 from a 72th gen master and completed the system. Later on, I was told to advance on there for the Tin Yat Lineage was born in the winter of 2009. For the full details, again, see Mak Tin Si / Mak Jo Si Biography. Regarding Ng Yin Do Pai 悟然道派 - Yes it is our sect before Tin Yat Lineage was formed due to the fact that we got scammed by a con artist and he had influenced our past Taoism cultivation and everything as well. Again, read Mak Tin Si / Mak Jo Si Biography and you shall know what the con artist story is. We already openly accepted whoever want and qualify to transfer from Ng Yin Do Pai to Tin Yat Lineage in 2009-2010. We also expelled a bunch of bad students as well. We do not hold Ng Yin Do Pai anymore right now and our lineage is Tin Yat Lineage. Any Ng Yin Do Pai students are welcome to contact me to inquire about how to re-join Tin Yat Lineage to learn the system. NOTE TO ALL: All WHO CLAIM TO BE NG YIN DO PAI STUDENTS ARE NOT RELATED TO US. We had clearly stated this fact and if anybody claim to be a Ng Yin Do Pai student, please notify me immediately about it with links or proofs and evidence. About Mak Tin Si or Mak Jo Si, why Jo Si and Tin Si - Basically they are like a position title. Tin Si = Celestial Master which is a position in Taoism. It doesn't mean much to a normal person at all, just more things to do on our cultivation side, and yes I am still a TIN SI. Jo Si = Lineage founder, clearly stated, Tin Yat Lineage founder. There is no hidden message and these are not for fame at all. It's just like calling one a professor or PhD. They are what they claimed. Religious and Philosophy Taoism Again, I am sick and tired of seeing those who know nothing about Taoism and bullsh!t about me and Taoism I presented. If you do wish to know about Taoism, visit Taoist Master BLOG (my blog). I had posted tons of articles up for you to enjoy with video, photos and tons of proof for you to see. Most Tao Bum guys are really not even exposed to the real world of Taoism but brainwashed by the naive western Taoism culture instead. To see the real Taoism, you must open your eyes to the origin or at least where it started -- China. See what it is really like, they have no what you call "philosophy Taoism". Taoism is Taoism as a whole thing, even the philosophy is in the Taoism system which you all called "religious" Taoism as well. It's a whole thing but some of you just ripped the pizza apart and took pepperoni and call that a pizza, please, don't be so naive and still think you are right. Expose to the real world and read about what real Taoism is about. Again, read Taoist Master BLOG (my blog). Okay, enough said. I am leaving and won't check back here. If you wish to contact me in person, please e-mail me DIRECTLY [email protected] Thank you all for those who still check into my section or check up with my current status. I appreciate all who still have the interest in me and my stuff. Bye now and wish you all found the real Taoism.

On a previous thread, I said I wanted to try my hands at translating some Daoist texts: http://www.thetaobums.com/index.php?/topic/22412-anyone-need-translations-of-daoist-texts/. I'm going to start with "Questions and Answers on the Golden Elixir" (金丹问答), because it seems to present the least problems for translating, and because it seems quite useful. The Chinese original can be found here: http://www.danxin.net/jingdian/%E9%87%91%E4%B8%B9%E9%97%AE%E7%AD%94.htm. I'll do some translating every now and then, and post the results on this thread. Please correct or criticise as appropriate. (I'm not a neidan practitioner myself. I can only give what I believe to be an accurate translation according to my knowledge of Classical Chinese.) Also, feel free to make any suggestions. Also, please note that everything posted here is a work in progress. I'll edit the draft as I go along. Part 1 of Draft 金丹问答 萧廷之 Questions and Answers on the Golden Elixir By Xiao Tingzhi 　　问曰：“如何谓之金液还丹？” 　　答曰：“金液者，金水也。金为水母，母隐子胎。因有还丹之号也。前贤有曰，丹者，丹田也。液者，肺液也。以肺液还于丹田，故曰‘金液还丹。’” Question: What does "returning the metallic liquid to the elixir" mean? Answer: Metallic liquid means metallic water. Metal is the mother of water. The mother hides the fetus of her child. Hence, the name of "returning to the elixir". Prior generations of wise men have said, "Elixir refers to the elixir field. Liquid refers to the liquid of the lungs. One returns the liquid of the lungs to the elixir field. Therefore, we call this "returning the metallic liquid to the elixir". 　　问曰：“何谓铅汞？” 　　答曰：“非凡黑锡水银也。真一子曰：‘铅是天地之父母，阴阳之根基。’盖圣有采天地，父母之根，而为大药之基。采阴阳纯粹之精，而为大丹之质。且非常物造作也。汞性好飞，遇铅乃结，以其子母相恋也。” Question: What does one mean by "lead" and "mercury"? Answer: These do not refer to common metal, such as tin and mercury. The Master of True Unity says, "Lead is the parent of Heaven and Earth, and the foundation of yin and yang." For Sages collect the root of Heaven and Earth, and Father and Mother, in order to create the foundation of the great medicine. One collects the pure essence of yin and yang, in order to create the substance of the great elixir - This is different from the creation of common things. Mercury's nature is to like to fly, but it bonds with lead when they meet, due to the love between the son and the mother. 　　问曰：“何谓火？” 　　答曰：“火者，太阳真气，乃坎中之阳也。紫清真人曰：‘坎中起火’是也。” Question: What does "fire" mean? Answer: Fire is the true qi of greater yang - the yang in the middle of kan*. This is what the True Man of Purple Clarity meant by "start the fire in the middle of kan". *as in the trigram. 　　问曰：“何谓候？” 　　答曰：“五日为一候，是甲为一终也。日有十二时，五日六十时，终一甲子也。紫阳曰：‘一刻之工夫，自有一年之节候。’以起火之际，顷刻而一周天也。” Question: What does "hou" mean? Answer: One hou is five days...(not clear on this part)*...One day has twelve hours; five days have sixty hours - This completes one jiazi*. The Master of Purple Yang said, "The work of one quarter-hour contains the seasons and climate of a year." Starting from when one starts the fire, a microcosmic orbit is completed in a moment. *tentatively, "Its jia is the completion of one cycle." *A unit in Chinese calendrical calculations, which is subdivided into sixty parts.

Great post TaoMeow! The publishing house presenting itself as a single author is well-known, as is the record company producing "many" artists but all the same stuff. The trendy approach is to talk about a star producer who puts his mark on everything from music to earphones to software. I don't know what the "produced" artists think about what I'd call artistic tyranny. But I guess between getting aired and paid or not... Same went for that dog Rin-Tin-Tin. Multiple dogs over multiple movies.