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  1. Posted · Edited by dwai

    11 minutes ago, moment said:

    The laughing emoticon is the least of any problems on TDB.

    I think we are in need of a *facepalm* emoticon :) 

     

    PS. I'm not making fun of anyone's perspective. I think for those who are energetically sensitive, a 'laugh' can be a taunt, which is what @shazlor is alluding to iinm. But do I think we need to do away with the laugh emoticon? I don't think so. Maybe a more benign emoticon would be good (like :wub: ) :D 

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  2. Posted

    6 minutes ago, Cleansox said:

    Yes, absolutely. 

    They even share the same terms. 

    Coincidence? 

    Not  coincidental at all. Phenomenologically, at that level, the experiences are identical -- only colored slightly differently due to cultural context. 

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    28 minutes ago, Cleansox said:

    Although my tradition is Chinese, I have had good use of Kashmir Shaivism in understanding that which unfolds after the Ming practice have started to kick in. 

    Yes. Once the mind settles, a clarity arises -- and then the true (and hidden in plain sight) meanings of teachings start becoming apparent.

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  4. Posted

    3 minutes ago, Cleansox said:

    Yes. 

    I would join M-80 in his definition, in my experience it is very different from qigong and basic ldt work. 

    I'm not suggesting that it is :)

    I think people tend to get caught up in labels so much that they miss the underlying essence of what is being practiced (or what is being alluded to).

     

    My own teacher is the highest level adept that I've seen -- his practice of more than 50 years has established him in a state of such bliss, that his very presence will trigger that in others. He teaches the ming way for most people. A few of us have also been shown the xing way (mind you, the xing/ming labels, I'm ascribing -- he doesn't refer to the practices in this way). 


    I did find that most 'daoist' people don't seem to know about xing work at all. Which makes me think that it is either a very closely guarded 'secret' in the modern daoist circles, or simply unknown to most. Yet, as is described and explained, the Xing cultivation is more in the realm of Zen Buddhism or other non-dual traditions such as Advaita Vedanta/Kashmir Shaivism. 

     

     

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  6. Posted

    @freeform, everyone has off days.

     

    TBH i find the neidan/neigong distinctions very arbitrary. I prefer instead the Xing and Ming cultivation paradigms. Before we can start off on xing, Ming cultivation is needed. But eventually for spiritual growth, xing is what we need to work with. 
     

    As you know, my xing cultivation is via the Indic tradition of Advaita Vedānta. Though I’ve also experienced and practiced tantric yoga as well. 

    All these traditions more or less lose their distinctive flavors as we start working with/on consciousness. Consciousness is one without a second and everyone has it :) (whether they know it or not). 

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  7. Posted

    4 minutes ago, liminal_luke said:

     

    Hi Dwai,

     

    I agree that there´s an awful lot of rancor and nastiness here.  And yet, even now, there are shards of brilliant light: Small Fur´s discussion of "Cultivating the Golden Seed"; Silent Thunders "What Remains" thread.  i personally expose myself to more of the nastiness than is strictly necessary because I keep clicking here on Levitation to watch the ongoing shenanigans.  

    Wow! Yeah...those ARE real gems hiding in the weeds. I only get to witness the shenanigans second hand, as I have the usual suspects blocked for a while now. It is amazing how a couple of noisy individuals manage to vitiate the atmosphere for the rest of us -- what they say about rotten apples spoiling the bunch is quite apt.

     

    4 minutes ago, liminal_luke said:

     

    It´s possible your auto-suspending idea could work, but I´d be hesitant to implement it for a few reasons.  Occasionally there are members with unpopular views who don´t deserve to be shut out just because their ideas don´t accord with current norms.  Imagine if someone who spoke out about Trump (either in favor or against) was voted out by a coalition of members from the other side?

    Yeah I thought about it too. I think if someone makes a one-off post, the risk for that would be significantly lower than say someone who trolls every thread of other members. I'm not sure who's running this website now (or if anyone is, actively doing anything at all) - its a internet discussion forum, so I'm not really worried that world peace will be disrupted (or brought about) here...stakes are not that high imho.

    4 minutes ago, liminal_luke said:

    Also, I think conversation suffers when people focus too heavily on being "liked."  This is a problem even with the like button, and I think it would be compounded with a don´t like button.  It´s easy to fall into the notion that my value as a Bum corresponds to the number of likes my posts get.  It´s easy to write posts in order to collect social capital, to be liked, rather than to communicate.  Every time someone likes a post of mine, I get a little neurochemical ding in my brain that is highly rewarding.  (So PLEASE! -- like my posts.) 

     

    I´d favor going back to the "no insult" rule.  Ultimately though, I don´t think there´s any good way to weed out the incivility.  Perhaps it´s best to just walk around.  

    Sometimes the incivility follows us around like stalkers :D 

     

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  8. Posted

    11 hours ago, moment said:

    Okay, Do you have any ideas?

    Yes. Simple...encourage a model of discourse such that people are civil to each other, in spite of differences of opinions. This is the reason the trouble-makers have been banned from here before. For those who can't self regulate, a public voting system should ensure whether they should lose their posting privileges for specific period of time. 

     

    I don't think banning is a good solution -- but too many people hide behind their internet aliases and think it gives them the freedom to be asshats... Implementing a system where negative points will result in their posting privileges auto-suspending for 7 days etc might be far more productive. 

     

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  9. Posted · Edited by dwai

    6 hours ago, freeform said:

     

     

     

     

     

     

    :lol:

     

    You seem very concerned about me! How sweet.

     

    I tried - but clearly you have nothing to offer the discussion :rolleyes:

     

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    @freeform I think @Spotless is suggesting that there is no distinction between qigong and neigong in his mind (I could be wrong of course, but knowing him, I can warrant a guess).

     

    Even in the style of internal training I've undergone -- the grandmaster, Waysun Liao doesn't distinguish between qigong and neigong. He calls it all Daogong. The practice is called "Temple style tai chi" but it incorporates practices I've encountered from Neidan, Neigong, Qigong, other Daoist meditations. I was told that this is the way he learnt from a wandering Daoist monk in Taiwan, and that is how he transmits the training to two of his long-term students, who in turn transmitted it to me (and my other Kungfu brothers/sisters).

     

     I think it really depends on the teachers -- especially those teachers who immigrated to the West in the 1960s and 1970s, taught in the old way -- they didnt' have a damo mitchell to translate and organize the knowledge for a western audience. 

     

    The main thing is, the proof is in the eating of the proverbial pudding...has one's practice been able to help them develop equanimity? Cultivate stillness and being present? Psychic powers are a curious side-effect...not the main objective.

     

    More important is -- What is the quality of their life? Are they mainly happy and at peace in their lives? How do they interact with their environment (and people therein)?

     

     

     

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    2 hours ago, Starjumper said:

    In addition, a lot of the stuff you reported about Sai Baba are lies, can't you tell the difference between hater/liars and truth?

     

     

    Is it a sign of times, that Daobums has degenerated to this extent? I can remember a time when visiting here was actually an uplifting experience. Now it seems to be filled with rancor and nastiness. The lumpen elements have free reign... :rolleyes:

     

     

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    Hi,

     

    how do you know you had active kundalini? Did you have a practice that awakened the kundalini? If so, can you describe?
     

    And what do you mean by feeling stagnated? 
     

    Are you open to being checked on remotely? Just a scan to see what might be going on?

     

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    57 minutes ago, silent thunder said:

    I am experiencing what I refer to as 'the grey zone' in morning sleep.

    I come fully awake as usual, but remain still.

    awareness and body bouyant in a zone of extreme relaxation and still calm presence...

     

    Full lucid mind awareness but body soon returns to sleep.

    Mind enters and exits dreaming without losing consciousness.

    Fluid intermingling of dream and waking local awareness.

     

    Float in this zone for extended periods

    notion of self, localized unique personhood diffuses out into bouyant calm presence and witnessing

    This might be of interest to you —

     

    Spoiler

     

     

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  14. Posted

    1 hour ago, Piyadasi said:

     

    How about Baguazhang? I've heard it's supposed to be 'even more spiritual' than Taiji. I've heard the opposite about Xin(g?) Yi. Is there any validity to that? Or are they just different?

    Usually one graduates from xinyi to bagua to taijiquan (I’m sure Some people will Vehemently (dis)agree) :) 

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    15 hours ago, neti neti said:

    Also...

     

     

     

     

     

    and this one's pretty spot on.. oh maya!:)

     

     

    Wrt Bogarnath, my yoga teacher said he was being guided by Bogar. 
     

    His form of yoga was Tamil siddhar yoga and was very powerful — not the kind you’ll see in a western yoga studio. Serious tantric stuff :) 

     

    It helped open up my central channel. 

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  20. Posted

    40 minutes ago, CloudHands said:

     

    I want to support that, all that. Taiji Quan is a type of qi gong -with practical, martial applications- but the greatest gem is in the qi gong.

    My teacher says the martial stuff is lowest level of taijiquan. Highest level is spiritual transformation. 
     

    In the temple style system we have seated and physically static standing meditations...not just moving form practice (which good for circulation of the Qi). 

     

    There are so many levels to these teachings - most don’t go beyond the outer door stuff, hence long forms etc. 

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    These are words of profound wisdom — I’d advise those who can’t understand what’s being conveyed to really get back to diligent practice and keep revisiting this post every once in a while (for some it might take months, for some it might take years). 

    When it starts making sense, you’ll know you’ve entered the gate of knowledge and wisdom. 

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  22. Posted

    20 hours ago, Yonkon said:

    I tested out a fair share of spiritual practices and qiqong seems to be the most suited for my personality so i want to commit. (I love to move and i can't sit still) 

    I had the same realization many years ago. It wasn’t easy for me to sit still and ‘meditate’, so I took up taijiquan (a type of qigong). It turned out to the be the full kit and kaboodle with its own sets of inner alchemy and meditation practices. Not all systems have this — to find one which does, and have good teachers is a matter of great fortune. 

    20 hours ago, Yonkon said:

     

    But now a questioned entered my mind: Has qiqong the same purpose as sitting meditation or yoga? I want to become healthy in body and mind, calm my being and open my heart. Is QiGong the right practice for walking this path?  

     

    Imagine that i commit to a life long mastery of Qiqong, where would this lead me, what will get out of the practice?

    Another Question that is related: will all practices lead me to the same thing the one way or another?

    The purpose of any of these mind-body practices is to still the mind — bring about a degree of quietude so the root/essence of our being becomes revealed.

     

    Qigong, yoga, meditation practices are all means to one end — Spiritual awakening or realization (some call it Self-realization, some call it Nonself-realization, some others will call it something else). 
     

    If we don’t get distracted by the lure of powers, they are very potent transformative and preparatory practices for real “meditation” (called samādhi in the Indian traditions).

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    11 hours ago, neti neti said:

     

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    Sharing such information with a troll is like casting pearls before swine. :) 

    I’d already checked out Gasmaster’s “level” when he started becoming belligerent and acting like a spoilt brat. He’s at most a level 3 — very strong third chakra condensation — usually such people are extremely egotistical — so no surprise there. 
    Just ignore him — he’s getting his thrills from all the attention he’s seeking. 

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