request to pardon Daniel

[Cobie]

Dear admods. Yes I agree, he was banned for very good reasons. But could there maybe be special dispensation please?  I did enjoy some of his posts and miss his input. 
 

 

@liminal_luke  misses him too  

 

17 minutes ago, liminal_luke said:

Where´s Daniel when we need him?

 

 

Edited Friday at 11:19 PM by Cobie

[Taomeow]

3 hours ago, Cobie said:

Dear admods. Yes I agree, he was banned for very good reasons. But could there maybe be special dispensation please?  I did enjoy some of his posts and miss his input. 
 

 

@liminal_luke  misses him too  

 

 

 

 

I don't know what his transgressions were as I didn't much follow his posts, but I remember he was being goaded...  maybe it's an extenuating factor?  (Maybe not -- like I said, I haven't seen the bulk of the interactions, but that was my impression from what little I've seen.)      

[Nungali]

Well ... if a bunch of people can be pardoned for trying to overthrow US democracy from within   ....... why not ? 

 

 

[liminal_luke]

Some people run hot.  Let´s say there´s a debate that runs on for more than ten pages.  Frustrations start to flare a bit, things get a tad antagonistic, somebody alerts the mods.  A cool down warning is issued.  Spectators in the know gather their popcorn because things have reached a critical state and what happens next will determine everything.  Daniel is obviously a very intelligent guy, amazingly knowledgable about a few subjects, but cooling down is not in his repetoire -- and so he got the boot.  This is my take on what happened.

 

Do I miss him?  I do.  Ditto for Shadow_Self, another wonderful Bum prone to overheating.  I can´t say -- won´t say --- that the mods made the wrong decision in either of these cases; I think they debated in good faith, followed their guidelines, took the actions they felt best served the board.  But I had good relationships with both of these Bums and know that they´re good-hearted people who had something to contribute to conversation here.  Alas, when the moment came to let go they couldn´t do it.  

Edited Saturday at 10:41 AM by liminal_luke

[zerostao]

A link to this thread has been posted in the Steward's Lounge for review.

[Giles]

Good. 👍🏻 😊

 

Edited Saturday at 06:41 PM by Giles
Full stop/Period 😂

[Giles]

🤣

[Nungali]

11 hours ago, liminal_luke said:

Some people run hot.  Let´s say there´s a debate that runs on for more than ten pages.  Frustrations start to flare a bit, things get a tad antagonistic, somebody alerts the mods.  A cool down warning is issued.  Spectators in the know gather their popcorn because things have reached a critical state and what happens next will determine everything.  Daniel is obviously a very intelligent guy, amazingly knowledgable about a few subjects, but cooling down is not in his repetoire -- and so he got the boot.  This is my take on what happened.

 

Do I miss him?  I do.  Ditto for Shadow_Self, another wonderful Bum prone to overheating.  I can´t say -- won´t say --- that the mods made the wrong decision in either of these cases; I think they debated in good faith, followed their guidelines, took the actions they felt best served the board.  But I had good relationships with both of these Bums and know that they´re good-hearted people who had something to contribute to conversation here.  Alas, when the moment came to let go they couldn´t do it.  

 

 

[liminal_luke]

39 minutes ago, Nungali said:

 

 

 

So you don´t think Shadow_Self is a wonderful Bum?

 

 

[Nungali]

It may be 'wonderful' .... I was just surprised you knew about the  'overheated'  bit .  

 

 

I suppose if the problem persists , his tail could be removed   ?   

 

 

 

 

 

[liminal_luke]

11 hours ago, Nungali said:

It may be 'wonderful' .... I was just surprised you knew about the  'overheated'  bit .  

 

 

You´re surprised I know that Shadow_Self can overheat?  I have many faults and deficiencies.  I eat too many donuts and have never been able to do a pullup,; I won´t be any help if our car breaks down on the highway.  But one thing I can do is read. 

[Gerard]

No. A wolf will always remain a wolf. 

 

For instance, in Buddhism:

 

Then the Venerable Mahamoggallana thought: "Concerning which person has the Lord said, 'The gathering is not pure, Ananda'?" And the Venerable Mahamoggallana, comprehending the minds of the whole Order of bhikkhus with his own mind, saw that person sitting in the midst of the Order of bhikkhus — immoral, wicked, of impure and suspect behavior, secretive in his acts, no recluse though pretending to be one, not practicing the holy life though pretending to do so, rotten within, lustful and corrupt. On seeing him he arose from his seat, approached that person, and said: "Get up, friend. You are seen by the Lord. You cannot live in communion with the bhikkhus." But that person remained silent.

 

Source:

 

https://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka/kn/ud/ud.5.05.irel.html

 

 

Edited yesterday at 10:10 AM by Gerard

[Cobie]

1 hour ago, Gerard said:

No. A wolf will always remain a wolf. ...

 

A very nasty ad hominum indeed; Daniel never was and never will be a "wolf". 

 

 

[Nungali]

Geeze  !   

 

I had many an 'ad hominem' from him and gave them back with toasted cheese on ...... but I don't recall us ever going as far as 

 

"   immoral, wicked, of impure and suspect behavior, secretive in his acts, no recluse though pretending to be one, not practicing the holy life though pretending to do so, rotten within, lustful and corrupt ... "  * 

 

 

!  You could post a Poll about it Coby    

 

 

*  

Edit ;  well , not all in one sentence together .  I certainly received the first three from him .  and other stuff ... and    Ummmm ....   maybe not 'ad hominem' , as it was not directly aimed at me but ....   something  something , about my Mother   ?  

 

 

 

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Edited 13 hours ago by Nungali

[old3bob]

 

inductive reactance not recognized kicks butt..