Taoist Texts Posted November 7, 2022 20 minutes ago, mcoolio said: Why you always acting like grumpy old grandpa because i am one sonny 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeform Posted November 7, 2022 9 minutes ago, Taoist Texts said: the embryo. (and no, it is not what you heard it is) Well congrats on your bouncing baby boy! How is it different to what I heard it is? Or is it not for public discussion? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Taoist Texts Posted November 7, 2022 13 minutes ago, freeform said: How is it different to what I heard it is? but see thats the problem. as opposed to myself you were not given any concrete details by your teachers and you have not experienced it yourself. you just heard about it in meaningless terms. so one can say it is 100% different. 18 minutes ago, freeform said: Or is it not for public discussion? normally it is not, but i like you. so if you wish, you tell concretely what it is in your understanding and if it is correct in my understanding, i will publicly admit to and apologize for being wrong about you not knowing what it is honest. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeform Posted November 7, 2022 14 minutes ago, Taoist Texts said: but see thats the problem. as opposed to myself you were not given any concrete details by your teachers and you have not experienced it yourself. you just heard about it in meaningless terms. so one can say it is 100% different. Oh I definitely haven’t experienced it myself! I was not really given any details about it. I’m generally taught only what’s within 3 or so years ahead of me in any great detail… Quote i will publicly admit to and apologize for being wrong about you not knowing what it is Oh I think you misunderstand my reason for asking Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wilhelm Posted November 7, 2022 (edited) Quote A Mexican standoff is a confrontation in which no strategy exists that allows any party to achieve victory. Any party initiating aggression might trigger its own demise. At the same time, the parties are unable to extricate themselves from the situation without suffering a loss. As a result, all participants need to maintain the strategic tension, which remains unresolved until some outside event or interparty dialogue makes it possible to resolve it. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexican_standoff I'm just kidding with you fellas nice to see some Nei Dan discussion popping up here again Edited November 7, 2022 by Wilhelm 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Taoist Texts Posted November 7, 2022 23 minutes ago, freeform said: Oh I definitely haven’t experienced it myself! I was not really given any details about it. like i said earlier, i know that. 24 minutes ago, freeform said: I’m generally taught only what’s within 3 or so years may be you guys are doing it wrong 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeform Posted November 7, 2022 I hope it doesn’t come across as a standoff! Im genuinely interested in what TT has to say. I don’t care who’s correct or not correct or any such games 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeform Posted November 7, 2022 1 minute ago, Taoist Texts said: may be you guys are doing it wrong Maybe. I’m doing what must be like a Halloween horror movie for you - trusting my teacher without reservation. Even if he is wrong, I’m more than happy to progress along the wrong path if it leads me to becoming anything close to who my teacher has become. I’ve come across dozens of ‘grand masters’ claiming to have the embryo. The only two I believe to be legit can just show me… the rest had to explain Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
anshino23 Posted November 7, 2022 6 minutes ago, freeform said: The only two I believe to be legit can just show me… the rest had to explain How does one show the embryo? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeform Posted November 7, 2022 11 minutes ago, anshino23 said: How does one show the embryo? Hehe - the answer is only suitable for an in-person conversation, I’m afraid. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Taoist Texts Posted November 7, 2022 40 minutes ago, Wilhelm said: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexican_standoff I'm just kidding with you fellas i see your mexican standoff and raise you a turkish parable Once, Khoja boasted that he could teach his donkey to talk. Hearing about this, the Emir ordered to pay Khoja 1000 tangas so Khoja teaches the donkey to talk in 10 years.At home, Khoja's wife began to cry and weep: why did you deceive Emir, why did you take the money! When he realizes that you have deceived him, he will cut your head!“Calm down, wife,” Khoja replied. in 10 years, either the donkey dies, or the Emir croaks 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MetaDao Posted November 7, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Taoist Texts said: the embryo. (and no, it is not what you heard it is) Hahaha. I like my honest answer much more than your deluded one. Your words are combative and I can tell you aren’t recognizing my words for the help that they are. You seek to goad others into revealing their true nature, yet you fail to recognize the truth in any words shared to you. Why seek to poke holes in others instantly? Is what I said wrong? If so, please explain to us I won’t responding to you anymore if your words continue to be combative my friend Good luck in your practice! Edited November 7, 2022 by MetaDao Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shadow_self Posted November 7, 2022 3 hours ago, freeform said: Hehe - the answer is only suitable for an in-person conversation, I’m afraid. If how literal certain concepts turned out to be that one would imagine weren't so literal Im hazarding a guess 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeform Posted November 7, 2022 40 minutes ago, Shadow_self said: If how literal certain concepts turned out to be that one would imagine weren't so literal Im hazarding a guess Things get pretty wild in the latter stages of alchemical transformation! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeform Posted November 7, 2022 I’m actually rather easily impressed to be honest. Show me something much earlier on the alchemical path - like the results of opening the true waterwheel! Or for qigong practitioners - just show that you have a developed a kwa and can sink your qi! I’m impressed by this stuff because even though it’s one of the early foundational attainments, very few are able to achieve these things! When I see a qigong teacher that has a kwa it’s genuinely a delight to see. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
liminal_luke Posted November 7, 2022 1 hour ago, Shadow_self said: If how literal certain concepts turned out to be that one would imagine weren't so literal Im hazarding a guess I've never wanted kids. Given the alledged difficulty of developing the embryo, I'm guessing it won't be a problem. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Taoist Texts Posted November 8, 2022 10 hours ago, MetaDao said: Is what I said wrong? If so, please explain to us I will be glad to explain. You see the very first thing about any info which makes it right or wrong - is where it comes from. Can you tell me where did you get all your extensive knowledge on neidan? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeform Posted November 8, 2022 (edited) 11 hours ago, liminal_luke said: I've never wanted kids. Given the alledged difficulty of developing the embryo, I'm guessing it won't be a problem. Oh it’s not that hard - @Taoist Texts will tell you which specific texts impregnated him (just a gentle tease - TT can take it, I’m sure!) Edited November 8, 2022 by freeform 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Taoist Texts Posted November 8, 2022 32 minutes ago, freeform said: TT can take it, I’m sure indeed, i can take it like a man 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cobie Posted November 8, 2022 (edited) On 4-11-2022 at 1:28 PM, Taoist Texts said: … the entire … alchemy/neidan/neigong … i can explain it … In this context, please tell: What is a ''pearl''? As in On 4-11-2022 at 12:18 PM, Taoist Texts said: ... creating a tangible millet-grain size pearl. What is an ''embryo''? As in 23 hours ago, freeform said: … what attainments have you had? 23 hours ago, Taoist Texts said: the embryo … What is a "heart"? As in On 22-5-2016 at 3:58 AM, Taoist Texts said: … 夫道以无心为体 ... the essence of Dao is to have no heart ... Edited November 8, 2022 by Cobie 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Taoist Texts Posted November 8, 2022 1 hour ago, Cobie said: What is a "heart"? the heart is that part of human psyche which experiences regular human thoughts and emotions. The rest of your questions is reserved for paying students;) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MetaDao Posted November 8, 2022 (edited) 12 hours ago, Taoist Texts said: I will be glad to explain. You see the very first thing about any info which makes it right or wrong - is where it comes from. Can you tell me where did you get all your extensive knowledge on neidan? A master. So yes, I am regurgitating but for a good reason. To help people find the path I think wisdom should not be wasted. The same way texts are preserved. If Lu Dongbin shared wisdom through text when he was younger before he had attained his achievement, would there be anything wrong with that? Edited November 8, 2022 by MetaDao Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cobie Posted November 8, 2022 (edited) On 08/11/2022 at 3:25 PM, Taoist Texts said: the heart is that part of human psyche which experiences regular human thoughts and emotions. … On 22/05/2016 at 3:58 AM, Taoist Texts said: … 夫道以无心为体 … the essence of Dao is to have no heart .. So we get: 夫道以无心为体 … the essence of Dao is to have no “thoughts and emotions” Ridiculous. On 08/11/2022 at 3:25 PM, Taoist Texts said: … The rest of your questions is reserved for paying students;) Pathetic. Edited November 10, 2022 by Cobie 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cobie Posted November 8, 2022 (edited) @Taoist Texts On 07/11/2022 at 3:31 PM, freeform said: … what attainments have you had? On 07/11/2022 at 3:44 PM, Taoist Texts said: the embryo … Hmm … On 08/11/2022 at 2:19 PM, Cobie said: … What is an ''embryo''? On 08/11/2022 at 3:25 PM, Taoist Texts said: … your questions is reserved for paying students;) So you are making unfalsifiable claims. Cheap. ‘Females’ can have a child, very important for the survival of the tribe. The idea of ‘males’ usurping the reproductive function in a mystical way? Imo it is bollocks made up by very immature men. 2 hours ago, Cobie said: Us and Them. And after all … we're only ordinary men Edited November 10, 2022 by Cobie 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
damdao Posted November 8, 2022 4 minutes ago, Cobie said: So we get: 夫道以无心为体 … the essence of Dao is to have no “thoughts and emotions” I say, good luck with your Dao. 无心 is a technical expression, in daoism as well as in chan, son and zen. So you should not take it literally but in the theoretical context of those traditions. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
