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  1. Hear ye! Hear ye! Ye olde folks! King @silent thunder is right. I'm a lurer, i'm a flaker, i'm an interwebs storymaker. Pls shame and/or ignore me. Exactly like i predicted you chose to twist my words. I never said "your problem comes from practicing neidan or Qigong." I said: Your problems of violent thoughts and headache comes from fantasizing about Yes, i know you dont see the connection but it is not my problem anymore. Over and out. Surely it is not a Quanzhen lineage. Because as a real lineage holder of Quanzhen, the very first thing that I transmit is the danger of anger and how to get rid of it. It is the fundamental tenet of real Quanzhen patriarchs. Strange that your holders never mentioned it over 12 years. You sound very angry at my silliness. Here, i have a write-up for you, it should help:
  2. sorry could not find the technique with ggl. And who is your teacher IRL?
  3. i dont know;) in our lil version the pre-H comes from 'outside' or from 'empty-nothing' and the Du-Ren are the conduits for the pre-H. what does it feel like? where does it come from?
  4. Ai-ya! Levity and Irreverence! Amitofo shifu! In general any stage in nedan is described two-fold: 1 how it feels 2 what does it produce. So for MCO 1 is a very special qi rotating in Ren-du, autonomously (not a regular qi) 2 it immediately produces something very special called the elixir (it is unlike anything else). If any of these characteristics are lacking it is not an MCO. the heat comes from restless thoughts. it is a sign of progress but also of danger. You are a calm man by nature with calm thoughts and calm qi, hence no heat, which is good.
  5. You do not see the connection but your serious health issue is caused by this kind of groundless fantasizing. It is not too late to refrain from these fantasies, then you will get well. Here is my reference to help you: https://www.thedaobums.com/topic/40543-misconceptions-of-qigong-neidan-alchemy-20/?do=findComment&comment=676097 Please get well soon. Yes @silent thunder it is my shtick, you are right. if you interested let me know, we can have a thoughtful discussion on whether these entrepreneurs are the real McCoy. If not, please consider that them, their ilk, and their marketing, have directly whipped this young man's illness (and the deviations of many others like him).
  6. thats quite all right, its normal. The thing about cycles and stages is that they often happen simultaneously, and also it is hard to know which is which without a personal experience of the MCO. In addition, since not a single teacher on the market experienced the MCO so far, so...all in all its a tough row to hoe.
  7. Nathan Brine

    ah how the mighty have fallen. When the neidan market was in full swing they claimed that you have to make a pilgrimage, swear a blood oath, get a magical lineage oral secret heart transmission through personal touch face to face...but when the market dried up suddenly a boiler-plate video is just fine makes you wonder
  8. Nathan Brine

    excellent. now whoever figures out to what are these two events causally connected - will understand how magic works
  9. Nathan Brine

    not sure if you want me reply but here goes;) it is only impossible to know because we did not define the term 'synchronicity' - once we define it properly, then it is quite possible. of course i can, because it is a rhyme for the ages
  10. Nathan Brine

    Yes only a Xian can teach Xian-hood. Either there is a hurdle or there is larping. To each his own, its a free country There once was a teacher of tennis Who charged the fools pretty pennies Never won Wimbledon Nor a racket he owned Since he was such a larping genius Thanks for the story. The principle of magic is synchronicity which in turns works like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Observer_effect_(physics) meaning we must not know if it us who do the magic or things just happen on their own. If the magician is sure it is him then he deludes himself. first physical then spiritual the exact mechanism is secret, but the general answer is : by going back to the Immortal Source
  11. Nathan Brine

    @TaomeowI did not say anything like that. And take my word, i dont think that either. I only mentioned the liver concretely to show that I pay attention to what you say. So, if we had some crossed wires, I apologize , please forgive me kindly. this post of yours I dont remember, I was not referring to you, there was a gent who claimed that Could not put it better myself, thats why all these young western guys peddling the fountain of youth make me laugh interestingly 'hitting with the liver' is mentioned in my authoritative sources on Xingyiquan, so what you related is doable, I have no doubts about that. My take it that the lump travelling under the skin was not the liver itself, but a lump of the liver qi travelling along the liver meridian. you cannot see it but i am waving a white flag right now. Or may be you can?;)
  12. Nathan Brine

    yes, totally true;) not so much different as covering the different aspects of the same psychosomatic phenomena. Buddism is concerned with the psycho part, while Daosim with the somatic part literally every one. E. g. 6. Signs of Verification of Turning Around the Light http://thesecretofthegoldenflower.com/ch6.html or https://www.poetry-chaikhana.com/Poets/L/LuTungPin/HundredChara/index.html
  13. Nathan Brine

    well yes and no. This signs are available to the public, but they are not understandable to the public, only to those who experienced the signs himself yes obvious, only to those who experienced the same progress himself oral transmission as separate from texts and comprising what is lacking in texts does not exist. what does exist is oral explanation of texts. So the answer is no, all the signs are described in texts. That said, some small number of the signs is described in code or mentioned rarely.
  14. Zz and the Gongsun Longzi

    yes finger is a designation for a thing or simply speaking, finger is a name of a thing. which interestingly is correct because 'a table' contains no description of the table. if tomorrow we agree to call a table by the name of 'droink' it would work too.
  15. Zz and the Gongsun Longzi

    very commendable. a noble undertaking indeed. you seem to be doing fine but i wish you would tell us your understanding of what these cryptic sentences mean and why they were uttered. otherwise they dont make much sense. E.g Huh? This is not quite clear. However once we learn who is the author https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gongsun_Long it may dawn on us that this a very pragmatic, political discourse with implications echoing for millennia to come.