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  1. Actually, its the other way around, friend.
  2. Well the main tenet of all religions is that our universe is split in 2 parts: a material and immaterial, populated by humans and spirits correspondingly. The spirits control the material world, but are all the while being dependent on immaterial offerings from the humans in the material world. Beneficial spirits are to be sacrificed to, while the evil spirits must be mollified or scared away. Ergo this is what the chinese people do : Happiness and good fortune: Spectacular pictures show hundreds of thousands of Chinese worshipers queuing to pray to the God of Wealth February 1 marks the day of the God of Wealth which symbols happiness and good fortune Over 600,000 people in Wuhan City, China's Hubei province visited Guiyuan Temple to pray for fortune Another way the day is celebrated is by cleaning the house and setting off fireworks to scare away poverty Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4184804/Images-worshipers-praying-God-Wealth.html#ixzz53KQWeZnz Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook Hello Rara. Yes the folk religion did evolve greatly, first being influenced by the imperial rites, then by Buddhism and organised taoism, even by communism in 20th century, coming to the syncretic mess it is now. So this is an issue hinged on your definition of folk religion and a starting point thereof. As to the origins of taoism, you have to put a finger on what makes it notably distinct from the previously existing beliefs. And that something is the rejection of bloody sacrifice: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Way_of_the_Five_Pecks_of_Rice#Law The Way of the Five Pecks of Rice (Chinese: 五斗米道; pinyin: Wǔ Dǒu Mǐ Dào) or the Way of the Celestial Master, commonly abbreviated to simply The Celestial Masters, was a Chinese Taoist movement founded by the first Celestial Master Zhang Daoling in 142 CE.[1] Tianshi dao (Way of the Celestial Masters) - From The Encyclopedia of ... The central feature of its teaching was a rejection of the blood sacrifice offered to the traditional gods
  3. Yes, there are goals. The pragmatic ones, like good harvest, commercial success, health, many sons, better rebirths, salvation in the afterlife and so on.
  4. there is no hard and fast distinction between the 2 institutional Taoism acts as a "liturgical framework" of local religions.[2] Zhengyi Taoism is especially intertwined with local cults, with Zhengyi daoshi (道士, "masters of the Tao") often performing rituals for local temples and communities. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portal:Chinese_folk_religion The only tenuous line that one can draw is that the local religion is centered on a local deity, but even that is questionable. More info at the link.
  5. Yes. However Wang chongyang wrote a poem which is also sometimes is titled ZWL but more properly, has an almost identical title of Zuo Wang Ming http://www.daode.org/sxfy/04/0694.htm
  6. the last paragraph is a repetition from 《大宗师 - The Great and Most Honoured Master》 Yi-er Zi rejoined, 'Yet, when Wu-zhuang lost his beauty, Ju-liang his strength, and Huang-Di his wisdom, they all (recovered them) under the moulding (of your system) - how do you know that the Maker will not obliterate the marks of my branding, and supply my dismemberment, so that, again perfect in my form, I may follow you as my teacher?' Xu You said, 'Ah! that cannot yet be known. I will tell you the rudiments. 0 my Master! 0 my Master! He gives to all things their blended qualities, and does not count it any righteousness; His favours reach to all generations, and He does not count it any benevolence; He is more ancient than the highest antiquity, and does not count Himself old; He overspreads heaven and supports the earth; He carves and fashions all bodily forms, and does not consider it any act of skill;-- this is He in whom I find my enjoyment.'
  7. Mair sounds quite miffed
  8. this bit is clearer in Legge These five things are all injurious to the life; and now Yang and Mo begin to stretch forward from their different standpoints, each thinking that he has hit on (the proper course for men).But the courses they have hit on are not what I call the proper course. What they have hit on (only) leads to distress - can they have hit on what is the right thing?
  9. what's this all about?
  10. Neidan is markedly split into superior methods and inferior ones. The latter are based on complicated instructions re bodily energetics. The former are simple. TGF is a superior method. When trying to understand the TGF ppl are looking for details that are not supposed to be a part of a superior method to begin with; upon not finding them ppl conclude that such details are missing, orally or textually. It is a misunderstanding, TGF is a complete set of instructions.
  11. when the latter said, 'It is because he was not born in the time of the Lord of Yu, that therefore he is involved in this trouble (of war) /Legge/ something was lost in translation
  12. Actually i can relate to this attitude. True story: back in the elementary school i was terrible at math. Not that i was particularly dumb, math was just not my thing. So when doing homework i would stare at a problem for some time, scribble some numbers, check my result with the answer provided in the back of the textbook - it would never match. Being unable to solve a stupid problem did wound my childish pride, so invariably, i would rationalize it as due to a typo in the textbook. Why not?!.. typos happen! Feeling better, i would slam the book shut and sneak off to play. So... like i said, i can empathize with this whole "bad book, wily author" rationalization.
  13. why would anyone purposely write a purposely incomplete book? What would be the purpose of that?
  14. This is Mair just being silly Zhun Mang, on his way to the ocean, met with Yuan Feng on the shore of the eastern sea, and was asked by him where he was going. 'I am going,' he replied, 'to the ocean;' and the other again asked, 'What for?' Zhun Mang said, 'Such is the nature of the ocean that the waters which flow into it can never fill it, nor those which flow from it exhaust it. I will enjoy myself, rambling by it.' Yuan Feng replied, 'Have you no thoughts about mankind? /Legge/