Golden Immortal

[JinlianPai]

This maybe a hit

 

http://www.parallelperception.com/2014/08/26/taoism-the-mythical-return-of-the-dragon.html

Lo Ban Pai has not been in Wudang for around seven hundred years. There are only remnants of this art in Wudang. The black mantis hand that you were taught in the Golden Lotus has been in Wudang around three hundred years ago, and it belongs to Lo Ban Pai.

 

but im not sure ill have to look into it.

[JinlianPai]

A little more on them 

 

http://www.flamebeing.com/loban-pai/loban-pai.html

[JinlianPai]

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[JinlianPai]

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Edited March 7, 2015 by JinlianPai

[allinone]

buddhas, bodhisatvas has golden hues. told many times in sutras.

[JinlianPai]

buddhas, bodhisatvas has golden hues. told many times in sutras.

 

Thanks and that was kind of my point in starting this thread.

 

There are many talks of it in the sutras there's even a sutra called golden light!

 

Secret of the golden flower means gold light.

 

A golden immortal is suppose to be the highest level of immortal.

 

Plus the golden elixir.

 

But yet you never hear of a practitioner mentioning emitting or seeing gold light.

 

There was literally no discussion on it before this.

[9th]

But yet you never hear of a practitioner mentioning emitting or seeing gold light.

 

There was literally no discussion on it before this.

 

really?  you've never heard that before?  perhaps you need to get out more

 

[JinlianPai]

really?  you've never heard that before?  perhaps you need to get out more

 

I meant on the forum.

 

In my own perosnal exp it wwas talked about all the time since in my lineage we emit gold light...

 

lol

[9th]

I meant on the forum.

 

Id have the same response.  There have been many, many threads about this throughout the history of this place... 

 

here's one from 7 years ago (...it was in relation to a discussion on the Kunlun system):

 

http://thedaobums.com/topic/6967-golden-energy/?p=80595

9th, on 28 Sept 2008 - 16:10, said:

Golden energy

For the guy or gal

Whose had a hard, hard day

(at the office)

 

Golden energy

When you're expected to meet the demands

Of an energetic mate

before a red hot date

 

Golden energy

dripping down on you

 

Golden energy

Natural aphrodisiac

Golden energy

Working hard to keep you on full

Golden energy

Pumping iron all the way

Keep you, you, you

from being too too too tired,

keep you laxed up and wired

Rootin bootin sure fired

 

Golden energy

meets all requirements

Posts no bills

Poots no guff

 

Needs no prescription

 

Golden energy

handle if you care

If you dare

Help yourself to another share...

 

 

- DEVO, 1974

 

 

[JinlianPai]

Lol? can you emit gold light?

 

lol

Edited March 9, 2015 by JinlianPai

[9th]

[JinlianPai]

 

 

In my sect we emit gold light as our internal power and it only gets stronger over time.

 

It is a Buddhist martial art from a Buddhist temple.

[9th]

Thanks and that was kind of my point in starting this thread.

 

There are many talks of it in the sutras there's even a sutra called golden light!

 

Secret of the golden flower means gold light.

 

A golden immortal is suppose to be the highest level of immortal.

 

Plus the golden elixir.

 

But yet you never hear of a practitioner mentioning emitting or seeing gold light.

 

There was literally no discussion on it before this.

 

 

really?  you've never heard that before?  perhaps you need to get out more

 

 

 

I meant on the forum.

 

In my own perosnal exp it wwas talked about all the time since in my lineage we emit gold light...

 

lol

 

 

Id have the same response.  There have been many, many threads about this throughout the history of this place... 

 

here's one from 7 years ago (...it was in relation to a discussion on the Kunlun system):

 

http://thedaobums.com/topic/6967-golden-energy/?p=80595

9th, on 28 Sept 2008 - 16:10, said:

 

 

Lol? can you emit gold light?

 

lol

 

 

 

 

 

In my sect we emit gold light as our internal power and it only gets stronger over time.

 

It is a Buddhist martial art from a Buddhist temple.

 

 

So would you say that you were "literally" wrong?  In the original post? 

 

Or not?

[JinlianPai]

So would you say that you were "literally" wrong?  In the original post? 

 

Or not?

 

Um no it was to my knowledge anyone who thinks im some daobums oracle who knows of every post that has ever existed on here is a fucking retard.

 

btw lol

[9th]

Fascinating

[Vanir Thunder Dojo Tan]

  "i can fart rainbows when i laugh real hard!!!" 
 

[Songtsan]

You have attained the highest of virtues Vanir! You may now leave this level of existence and move onwards to your destiny....

[Vanir Thunder Dojo Tan]

the highest of virtues is witty/ish off hand prop/sit-comic responses?

[JinlianPai]

Fascinating

No not really ur derailing my thread.

 

Your not adding to the subject your not staying within the op your just a troll.

 

But i like members like you who dont really know anything so they start derailing threads.

 

Unless you want to go back to the op and tell us something that we dont know and hasnt already been posted about golden immortals.

[JinlianPai]

Ok I found it looks like 9th did a thread about golden energy which was creptic and really didnt describe anything.

 

http://thedaobums.com/topic/6967-golden-energy/?p=80595

 

No quotes from sources no replies and no reason of intent behind starting the thread.

 

So 9th why didnt you say you were quoting yourself?

 

It sounds like you are kind of jealous so you come on here and derail my thread...

 

lol

Edited March 9, 2015 by JinlianPai

[9th]

Ok I found it looks like 9th did a thread about golden energy which was creptic and really did describe anything.

 

http://thedaobums.com/topic/6967-golden-energy/?p=80595

 

No quotes from sources no replies and no reason of intent behind starting the thread.

 

So 9th why didnt you say you were quoting yourself?

 

Yes, well it should have been easy to find since I posted the link (as well as the content) in my original response above, as well as the author, which was me.  Do you see where it says "9th, on 28 Sept 2008 - 16:10, said:" here below?  

 

http://thedaobums.com/topic/6967-golden-energy/?p=80595

9th, on 28 Sept 2008 - 16:10, said:

 

Or are you emitting so much golden light that its blinding you to everything else?  The reason I ask is because it seems so incredibly obvious, that I have a difficult time understanding how you would have missed it.

[JinlianPai]

9th im not against you.

 

Its just the way you came on here.

 

I started this thread because my practice caused me to ask some questions that I heard about in buddhism and taoism.

 

So im on here trying to get my questions answered so im saying that I dont know everything.

 

So this makes your line of questioning trolling...

 

Do you see my point?

 

But im interested what art do you train in?

[Daeluin]

Perhaps worry less about what you think you know (or what others know), and surrender your mind to train, in deepest humility, sincerity, and impeccability the lineage you have been gifted. Truly dedicate yourself and likely your ancestors will guide you deeper. Perhaps one of those ancestors is your teacher.

 

The deeper I get, the more I find that answers come from within. This wasn't possible when I only looked outside and asked questions. Not saying that is what you're doing, just sharing.

[9th]

9th im not against you.

 

Its just the way you came on here.

 

I started this thread because my practice caused me to ask some questions that I heard about in buddhism and taoism.

 

So im on here trying to get my questions answered so im saying that I dont know everything.

 

So this makes your line of questioning trolling...

 

Do you see my point?

 

But im interested what art do you train in?

 

 

 

The Heyoka is much misunderstood even by our own Lakota today.  By being around two Lakota Heyoka, my Grandfather, Chief Lame Deer, Tahca Uste, and my son, I have learned several things.   The Heyoka is a brotherhood of those in the present as well as those Heyoka who have gone on.   A Heyoka is the human hand as well as the spiritual warrior of the Wakinyan,  the Thunder Beings.  Though favored and protected by Wakan Tanka, with great power but an even greater responsibility, the Heyoka’s life is never his own.  Some of the Heyoka such as Chief Frank Fools Crow, were able to lead exemplary lives.  He was fortunate to have been raised from early childhood in a family which was steeped in Lakota tradition, culture and knowledge about spirituality. 

 

By his own account, Chief Frank Fools Crow had the support, understanding and assistance from his family and the spiritual community who understood his calling.  However other Heyoka have not been as fortunate to have this support system.  Not all Heyoka fully understood this calling from which they could not run.  As a result, some were humbled and suffered personal tragedy until they agreed to do what was asked of them. Joseph Eagle Elk, a great Heyoka, who is no longer with us today, gave a very poignant account of his own personal struggle in his autobiography, The Price of a Gift. Ultimately, whether the Heyoka lives an exemplary life or not, there is no denying that all Heyoka are mysteriously and spiritually gifted by Wakan Tanka and the Wakinyan (Thunder Beings) and remain a Heyoka even beyond death.

 

The words of the Heyoka are like a lightning bolt which can pierce the heart, for the Heyoka’s words can have a “sharp edge.” However, if one looks beyond the initial sting, one may realize that the words which make a person the angriest, usually have truth to them. Sometimes, “the truth hurts.”  But one never really knows the true intention of the Heyoka if we listen to the literal meaning of the words.   Something which is said today by a Heyoka may actually pertain to an event yet to come in the future.  Or a Heyoka may not reveal all he knows for his existence is in faith.  If a person is told everything, this person may give up.  A Heyoka has a higher calling and must be strong enough to go against human instinct in order to hold out hope for the people to keep them going during times of difficulty.  

 

One of the greatest misconceptions is that one “chooses” to be a Heyoka.  This is not true.  Just as a buffalo cannot “choose” to become a goat, and vice versa, neither can an ordinary person wake up one day and  “choose” to become a Heyoka. One cannot take classes to learn to become a Heyoka or “train” to become a Heyoka. There is no way to become “certified” or  “apprentice” to become a Heyoka.  One cannot go up on the hill on a vision quest and dream it up and one certainly cannot make it up.  It is Wakan Tanka, the Great Mystery, who chooses the Heyoka before he or she is ever born.  Who in their right mind would willingly choose such a life of hardship and sacrifice? 

 

In today’s plastic world, there are many fakes who are driven by greed or desire to become notorious.  But there are ways to tell the real Heyoka from a fake.  Can this person handle fire or pick up hot stones with his bare hands without being burned?  Can he prophesy?  There are spiritual consequences for those who lie about such things.  For the Thunder Beings fiercely protect their own and their helpers.  Long ago, each tribe had their own Heyoka or sacred clowns who were their protectors and defenders.  Now, just as the eagle and the buffalo are disappearing, so are the Heyoka.

 

“One Heyoka always knows another Heyoka when he meets one,” according to Richard Erdoes, co-author of the book on Grandpa John’s life, Lame Deer: Seeker of Visions, while reminiscing about a time when two Lakota Heyoka, Grandpa John Fire and Henry Crow Dog, who were friends, were both guests at Erdoes’ New York apartment at the same time during a civil rights march in the late 1960s.  According to Erdoes, these two Heyoka enjoyed each other’s company but due to the Heyoka nature to be “contrary,” they enjoyed verbal jousting and argued through the night into the early morning hours.

 

According to Grandpa John and my son, the Heyoka power tends to stay within the bloodline of a particular family although it might skip a generation or two, the power is always there.   Notably, the Eagle Elk family was one such family. Another one of our most noted Heyoka was Tasunka Witko, Chief Crazy Horse, whose life was a continual battle to save his people,  for a warrior’s work never ends, especially not the “half-man, half-spirit” warrior that he was.   Chief Crazy Horse’s heart was a stronghold for his Red People, big enough to include other tribes beyond his own tribal affiliation.  Today, at Pine Ridge, Northern Cheyenne Chief Dull Knife’s descendants, who were protected by this great man, still live among our people.  Though short in stature, Chief Crazy Horse, the Heyoka, was a man taller than his shadow.   I dedicate this story to our beloved Lakota Heyoka, past and present, including my son Wiconi who have had the courage to keep the “rebel” Heyoka spirit alive, “hecel Oyate kin nipi kte” so that our people should live.

 

 

- Wambli Sina Win

[JinlianPai]

So im just going to ask because you didn't really say directly in your reply to me to what you actually practice.

 

So my question is are you a  Heyoka?