WIKILEAKS FLAT EARTH CONSPIRACY

[Apech]

The earth is TOROIDAL and Antarctica is the "inside" of the donut shaped ring planet!

 

If that were true the North Pole would be made of sugar frosting. Maybe it is ... I've never been there to check so I don't want to have a closed mind.

[SonOfTheGods]

The earth is TOROIDAL and Antarctica is the "inside" of the donut shaped ring planet!

Micro to macrocosm, as above so below

 

might be possibly Torus, just like us, and the Earth's stream

[Seeker of Wisdom]

[SonOfTheGods]

 

If you really are seeking the tao, I would say-- seek harder

[Seeker of Wisdom]

http://science.skepticproject.com/forum/5526/flat-earth-society--debunked/

 

Key quotes, but see the full article for the other points and the sources used:

 

 

"Their second argument about the Bedford Level Experiment is an outright lie. Before I go into detail about how they lied, I will first explain the experiment. The experiment's purpose was to determine if the surface of the water was curved or flat. Three buoys with long vertical sticks attached to them were placed in a river with negligible water flow velocity and were separated by 5 miles. A telescope was set up perpendicular to the river a mile away from the center post. If the water, and consequently the Earth, was flat, the posts should all appear to be the same height. However, the telescope showed that the center post was five feet higher than the other two posts, thus proving that the water's surface was in fact curved, and giving strong evidence of a round Earth. However, the FES makes a bald-faced lie and says that the experiment was faked and that the poles were actually at the same height. They give no evidence that the experiment was faked, and they give no evidence that a court determined that it was faked. In fact, on their Bedford Level Experiment page (4), there are no outside links at all, putting the page's credibility in question, especially since other reports by reliable sources conflict with it"

 

"The FES also addresses the big question on everyone's mind: why do pictures from space show a round Earth? Their answer: the pictures are faked, and so is all space travel. This is an unfalsifiable statement, that is to say there is nothing that can possibly disprove it. This is usually a sign of a logical flaw. In this case, I believe the FES is saying the pictures are fake so that their theory can survive. Pictures from space of a round Earth would disprove the flat Earth theory. However, the people of the FES are convinced that their theory is right, so they see anything conflicting with it as wrong. Round Earth pictures from space conflict with the flat Earth theory, and since (in their minds) the flat Earth theory is real, the pictures must be fake. In their minds, any pictures of the Earth from space would show it to be flat, but since these pictures show a round Earth and are being presented by NASA, the pictures must be fake and NASA must be lying. That is the origin of their conspiracy theory, and it comes from the flawed belief that their theory is right and anything saying otherwise is wrong. Of course, there is no actual evidence that the pictures are fake and that NASA never sent astronauts to space, and lots of evidence of the contrary.

 

Another issue they address is how the day and night cycle works on a flat Earth. The FES says that the Sun acts as a spotlight on the Earth and it circles overhead (see the diagram in source 3). However, they completely fail to explain why the Sun is a spotlight, what causes it to rotate above the Earth, and why its orbit expands and contracts to cause the seasons. As will be discussed later, the round Earth theory can explain all of the observed motions of the Sun, moon, stars, and planets, the day and night cycle, and the seasons. Thus, the burden of proof lies with the FES to prove these wrong and their own theory right. They have failed at both of these"

 

 

"Their final piece of "evidence" for the flat Earth theory is what gravity is. They believe that there is no such force as gravity, and what we feel as gravity is instead the continuous acceleration of the flat Earth upwards at 9.81 m/s^2. They say that Einstein's special relativity says that an object can accelerate infinitely without reaching the speed of light, and that the acceleration is caused by dark energy. The FES grossly misinterprets what special relativity says about infinite acceleration. It says that an object can accelerate infinitely without reaching the speed of light, but the magnitude of its acceleration must decay exponentially. For example, you may reach 299,792,458 m/s (1 m/s less than the speed of light) at an acceleration of 9.81 m/s^2. However, you cannot continue accelerating at 9.81 m/s^2, because in 1 second you would be going 8.81 m/s faster than the speed of light. So, your acceleration would have to decrease, so that it would have to be less than the speed of light minus your current speed. Since the speed of light is 299,792,458 m/s, and the person's speed in this example is 299,792,457 m/s, the difference between the two is 1 m/s. So, the new acceleration would have to be less than 1 m/s^2. It could be 0.9 m/s^2 (although it may not be this), so that 1 second later the person would be traveling at 299,792,457.9 m/s, and the next second's acceleration would have to be less than 0.1 m/s^2. Therefore, an object can theoretically accelerate forever, but it cannot accelerate at the same magnitude forever. This means that, if the Earth is constantly accelerating upward at 9.81 m/s^2, after a certain amount of time it should approach the speed of light and "gravity" should appear to get rapidly weaker. How long would this take? We can find out using one of the "big four" kinematics equations (5). This one deals with objects at constant accelerations and can find the time it will take to reach a certain velocity. The equation is this:

 

vf = vo + a*t

 

Vf is an object's final velocity, vo is an object's starting velocity, a is acceleration, and t is time. We want to find how long it would take the Earth starting at 0 m/s to reach the speed of light, assuming its acceleration is 9.81 m/s^2. The speed of light will be vf, 0 will be vo, since it started at rest, a will be 9.81, since it is its acceleration, and t will be solved for algebraically. The equation now becomes:

 

299,792,458 = 0 + 9.81 * t

 

Just divide 299,792,458 by 9.81 and you have the time it will take in seconds for the Earth to theoretically reach light speed.

 

t = 30,559,883.6 seconds

 

Sounds like a lot, right? Let's do some conversions. 60 seconds are in a minute, so if we divide the seconds by 60, we get 509,331.4 minutes. 60 minutes are in an hour, so divide again by 60, and we get 8,488.9 hours. 24 hours are in a day, so divide by 24 and we get 353.7 days. That's right, it would take a little less than a year for a flat Earth accelerating at 9.81 m/s^2 to approach the speed of light and begin decelerating. We've all been alive for over a year, and we've all felt gravity just as strong as the year before. There is absolutely NO WAY that upward acceleration of 9.81 m/s^2 is causing what we feel as gravity. Not to mention, there is no explanation for how dark energy is supposedly causing the acceleration. This entire part is bogus. If gravity existed on this flat Earth, and if the flat Earth were not accelerating, gravity would still point to the center of the Earth, and the further away from the center someone walked, the more inclined gravity would be, until near the edges gravity would be almost vertical. There is no explanation for what we feel as gravity on a flat Earth, so the Earth cannot be flat."

 

"In fact, why is there even a horizon at all if the Earth is flat? Flat Earth theory can't explain it, but round Earth theory can. A horizon is caused by the curvature of the Earth. The reason that you can't see the shoreline in the picture is because it is being blocked by the water, due to the curvature of the Earth. Another thing that proves the Earth is round is a lunar eclipse. When the Earth casts its shadow on the moon as the moon passes behind it, the shadow is curved. Flat Earthers may argue that this is because the Earth is disc-shaped, but then again, in their theory the moon is never supposed to pass behind the Earth. It's always supposed to be right up in the sky, opposite the Sun it its orbit. The flat Earth theory also cannot explain the change of a star's altitude as one moves North or South, but the round Earth theory can. As one travels a significant distance South, he or she will notice that the stars have changed altitude, and some new ones have appeared in the southern Sky. This is because they have walked across a curved surface, and so they are looking at a different patch of sky than before. There are many, many other things that flat Earth theory cannot explain which round Earth theory can. I will list a few here: parallax, plate tectonics, nuclear fusion, black holes, equatorial circumnavigation, orbits, lunar phases, inverse square nature of light, the Candevish experiment, red and blue-shifting, and retrograde motion."

[SonOfTheGods]

http://science.skepticproject.com/forum/5526/flat-earth-society--debunked/

 

Key quotes, but see the full article for the other points and the sources used:

 

 

"Their second argument about the Bedford Level Experiment is an outright lie. Before I go into detail about how they lied, I will first explain the experiment. The experiment's purpose was to determine if the surface of the water was curved or flat. Three buoys with long vertical sticks attached to them were placed in a river with negligible water flow velocity and were separated by 5 miles. A telescope was set up perpendicular to the river a mile away from the center post. If the water, and consequently the Earth, was flat, the posts should all appear to be the same height. However, the telescope showed that the center post was five feet higher than the other two posts, thus proving that the water's surface was in fact curved, and giving strong evidence of a round Earth. However, the FES makes a bald-faced lie and says that the experiment was faked and that the poles were actually at the same height. They give no evidence that the experiment was faked, and they give no evidence that a court determined that it was faked. In fact, on their Bedford Level Experiment page (4), there are no outside links at all, putting the page's credibility in question, especially since other reports by reliable sources conflict with it"

 

"The FES also addresses the big question on everyone's mind: why do pictures from space show a round Earth? Their answer: the pictures are faked, and so is all space travel. This is an unfalsifiable statement, that is to say there is nothing that can possibly disprove it. This is usually a sign of a logical flaw. In this case, I believe the FES is saying the pictures are fake so that their theory can survive. Pictures from space of a round Earth would disprove the flat Earth theory. However, the people of the FES are convinced that their theory is right, so they see anything conflicting with it as wrong. Round Earth pictures from space conflict with the flat Earth theory, and since (in their minds) the flat Earth theory is real, the pictures must be fake. In their minds, any pictures of the Earth from space would show it to be flat, but since these pictures show a round Earth and are being presented by NASA, the pictures must be fake and NASA must be lying. That is the origin of their conspiracy theory, and it comes from the flawed belief that their theory is right and anything saying otherwise is wrong. Of course, there is no actual evidence that the pictures are fake and that NASA never sent astronauts to space, and lots of evidence of the contrary.

 

Another issue they address is how the day and night cycle works on a flat Earth. The FES says that the Sun acts as a spotlight on the Earth and it circles overhead (see the diagram in source 3). However, they completely fail to explain why the Sun is a spotlight, what causes it to rotate above the Earth, and why its orbit expands and contracts to cause the seasons. As will be discussed later, the round Earth theory can explain all of the observed motions of the Sun, moon, stars, and planets, the day and night cycle, and the seasons. Thus, the burden of proof lies with the FES to prove these wrong and their own theory right. They have failed at both of these"

 

 

"Their final piece of "evidence" for the flat Earth theory is what gravity is. They believe that there is no such force as gravity, and what we feel as gravity is instead the continuous acceleration of the flat Earth upwards at 9.81 m/s^2. They say that Einstein's special relativity says that an object can accelerate infinitely without reaching the speed of light, and that the acceleration is caused by dark energy. The FES grossly misinterprets what special relativity says about infinite acceleration. It says that an object can accelerate infinitely without reaching the speed of light, but the magnitude of its acceleration must decay exponentially. For example, you may reach 299,792,458 m/s (1 m/s less than the speed of light) at an acceleration of 9.81 m/s^2. However, you cannot continue accelerating at 9.81 m/s^2, because in 1 second you would be going 8.81 m/s faster than the speed of light. So, your acceleration would have to decrease, so that it would have to be less than the speed of light minus your current speed. Since the speed of light is 299,792,458 m/s, and the person's speed in this example is 299,792,457 m/s, the difference between the two is 1 m/s. So, the new acceleration would have to be less than 1 m/s^2. It could be 0.9 m/s^2 (although it may not be this), so that 1 second later the person would be traveling at 299,792,457.9 m/s, and the next second's acceleration would have to be less than 0.1 m/s^2. Therefore, an object can theoretically accelerate forever, but it cannot accelerate at the same magnitude forever. This means that, if the Earth is constantly accelerating upward at 9.81 m/s^2, after a certain amount of time it should approach the speed of light and "gravity" should appear to get rapidly weaker. How long would this take? We can find out using one of the "big four" kinematics equations (5). This one deals with objects at constant accelerations and can find the time it will take to reach a certain velocity. The equation is this:

 

vf = vo + a*t

 

Vf is an object's final velocity, vo is an object's starting velocity, a is acceleration, and t is time. We want to find how long it would take the Earth starting at 0 m/s to reach the speed of light, assuming its acceleration is 9.81 m/s^2. The speed of light will be vf, 0 will be vo, since it started at rest, a will be 9.81, since it is its acceleration, and t will be solved for algebraically. The equation now becomes:

 

299,792,458 = 0 + 9.81 * t

 

Just divide 299,792,458 by 9.81 and you have the time it will take in seconds for the Earth to theoretically reach light speed.

 

t = 30,559,883.6 seconds

 

Sounds like a lot, right? Let's do some conversions. 60 seconds are in a minute, so if we divide the seconds by 60, we get 509,331.4 minutes. 60 minutes are in an hour, so divide again by 60, and we get 8,488.9 hours. 24 hours are in a day, so divide by 24 and we get 353.7 days. That's right, it would take a little less than a year for a flat Earth accelerating at 9.81 m/s^2 to approach the speed of light and begin decelerating. We've all been alive for over a year, and we've all felt gravity just as strong as the year before. There is absolutely NO WAY that upward acceleration of 9.81 m/s^2 is causing what we feel as gravity. Not to mention, there is no explanation for how dark energy is supposedly causing the acceleration. This entire part is bogus. If gravity existed on this flat Earth, and if the flat Earth were not accelerating, gravity would still point to the center of the Earth, and the further away from the center someone walked, the more inclined gravity would be, until near the edges gravity would be almost vertical. There is no explanation for what we feel as gravity on a flat Earth, so the Earth cannot be flat."

 

"In fact, why is there even a horizon at all if the Earth is flat? Flat Earth theory can't explain it, but round Earth theory can. A horizon is caused by the curvature of the Earth. The reason that you can't see the shoreline in the picture is because it is being blocked by the water, due to the curvature of the Earth. Another thing that proves the Earth is round is a lunar eclipse. When the Earth casts its shadow on the moon as the moon passes behind it, the shadow is curved. Flat Earthers may argue that this is because the Earth is disc-shaped, but then again, in their theory the moon is never supposed to pass behind the Earth. It's always supposed to be right up in the sky, opposite the Sun it its orbit. The flat Earth theory also cannot explain the change of a star's altitude as one moves North or South, but the round Earth theory can. As one travels a significant distance South, he or she will notice that the stars have changed altitude, and some new ones have appeared in the southern Sky. This is because they have walked across a curved surface, and so they are looking at a different patch of sky than before. There are many, many other things that flat Earth theory cannot explain which round Earth theory can. I will list a few here: parallax, plate tectonics, nuclear fusion, black holes, equatorial circumnavigation, orbits, lunar phases, inverse square nature of light, the Candevish experiment, red and blue-shifting, and retrograde motion."

copy and paste all you want, that was discussed in the 7 videos I posted

[xor]

Like every physical theory, I'll accept it if I have sufficient proof. Flat earth seems unlikely to me(0%). It contradicts experience and both ancient and modern observations/theory. Besides, what useful things can you do with flat earth theory?

[Seeker of Wisdom]

I really don't see what motivation anyone would have to make us believe the earth is round if it isn't.

 

Monetary gain? The cost of keeping up such deception would be astronomical, and I don't see how money could be made.

 

To keep some area secret? People travel all over the world thinking it's round. If anything, let people know it's flat and people will be discouraged from going near the edge and finding the secret place.

 

For the lulz?

[Vanir Thunder Dojo Tan]

Like every physical theory, I'll accept it if I have sufficient proof. Flat earth seems unlikely to me(0%). It contradicts experience and both ancient and modern observations/theory. Besides, what useful things can you do with flat earth theory?

 

 

Walk off of the plant

[xor]

I was hoping to take a parachute, maybe there's another flat eath somewhere below...

[Vanir Thunder Dojo Tan]

I really don't see what motivation anyone would have to make us believe the earth is round if it isn't.

 

Monetary gain? The cost of keeping up such deception would be astronomical, and I don't see how money could be made.

 

To keep some area secret? People travel all over the world thinking it's round. If anything, let people know it's flat and people will be discouraged from going near the edge and finding the secret place.

 

For the lulz?

 

 

Imagine gods and immortals are factually real and are designated as overseers of maintaining Earth's life/lives.

 

Deeming humans a threat to themselves and to others, why would they NOT send their own to rule over us and convince us to believe whatever lies they think will prevent us from leaving Earth and destroying their homes?

 

 

 

OR

 

Let's say its not the gods' wills. Some humans found a way off this plane and found divine treasures beyond your wildest imagination. and they conspire to keep it all to themselves. why not? Why wouldnt they? They now have access to *something* potentially more valuable than all teh education, which at this point may well be lies, all the gold, and all the food on Earth... Why wouldnt they use that to rule over the planet and convince everyone that "everything is fine"?

 

 

 

No, im not saying this is fact, but i AM saying you cant discount potentials until there is PROOF.

[SonOfTheGods]

I really don't see what motivation anyone would have to make us believe the earth is round if it isn't.

 

Monetary gain? The cost of keeping up such deception would be astronomical, and I don't see how money could be made.

 

To keep some area secret? People travel all over the world thinking it's round. If anything, let people know it's flat and people will be discouraged from going near the edge and finding the secret place.

 

For the lulz?

follow the money trail

 

who gains $?

 

Most of the world's military is surrounding Antarctica. Why?

 

How many people do you personally know, have been there?

Edited August 25, 2013 by SonOfTheGods

[SonOfTheGods]

For the record, I never personally stated whether I believed the Earth was flat or sphere

 

All I repeatedly stated was do not trust science at face value

 

NASA, etc is just another tentacle from the same torso that has other tentacles reaching into federal reserve military history and religion

 

EVEN IF ONLY ONE LYING DECEIVING TENTACLE IS CONNECTED TO AN ENTITY, HOW CAN THE REST OF THE TENTACLES CAN BE TRUSTED??

Edited August 25, 2013 by SonOfTheGods

[Apech]

For the record, I never personally stated whether I believed the Earth was flat or sphere

 

All I repeatedly stated was do not trust science at face value

 

NASA, etc is just another tentacle from the same torso that has other tentacles reaching into federal reserve military history and religion

 

EVEN IF ONLY ONE LYING DECEIVING TENTACLE IS CONNECTED TO AN ENTITY, HOW CAN THE REST OF THE TENTACLES CAN BE TRUSTED??

 

 

Everybody from the Ancient Greeks knew that the earth was round. The flat earth theory is just a made up hoax which some simple people believe in. Forget about it.

[SonOfTheGods]

Everybody from the Ancient Greeks knew that the earth was round. The flat earth theory is just a made up hoax which some simple people believe in. Forget about it.

a ha! that's why you did not want to take the $1,000 challenge for a debunking video - the MI6 pays you much more!

 

lol

[xor]

http://www.polarcruises.com/antarctica

 

I wonder where do these ships go...

[Apech]

a ha! that's why you did not want to take the $1,000 challenge for a debunking video - the MI6 pays you much more!

 

lol

 

Yes British Intelligence is funding me you are right. I am wearing a tuxedo and holder a walther ppk ... later I am going to be taken up to an orbiting space station where I will cause it to destruct and thereby saving humanity. (I will escape just in time with the most beautiful girl on board who will be crazy about me - in case you were worried.)

[Apech]

http://www.polarcruises.com/antarctica

 

I wonder where do these ships go...

 

The National Geographic Orion is doing a very quick u turn ... I think it strayed too close to the edge.

[SonOfTheGods]

http://www.polarcruises.com/antarctica

 

I wonder where do these ships go...

A number of governments maintain permanent manned research stations throughout the continent. The number of people conducting and supporting scientific research and other work on the continent and its nearby islands varies from about 1,000 in winter to about 5,000 in the summer, giving it a population density between 0.00007 inhabitants per square kilometre (0.00018 /sq mi) and 0.00035 inhabitants per square kilometre (0.00091 /sq mi) at these times. Many of the stations are staffed year-round, the winter-over personnel typically arriving from their home countries for a one-year assignment.

[SonOfTheGods]

http://www.facts-are-facts.com/magazin/3_south_pole_mysterious_antarctica.ihtml

 

has been removed

 

it must be found on google cache, which is how I retrieved it - things that make you go hmmmm..,

 

Mysterious Antarctica

The land of snow and ice was once a flourishing continent. Although today it is considered inhospitable, it exerts an almost magically attractive force over mankind.
It’s no wonder the continent is entrenched in so many legends – from the entrance to fabled “Shangri La” located in the earth’s interior to the obscure stories about secret UFO bases not inhabited by extraterrestrials…

The find is perplexing: personnel from an American NASA laboratory in Antarctica came across a puzzling object in the ice. When they tried to examine it while it was still frozen solid in the block of ice, it thawed despite their intentional cooling. It is a capsule of alien origin and it began transmitting signals, just like those intercepted from the UFO that crashed in Roswell, New Mexico in 1947. Under instructions from Washington, decryption specialist and alien hunter Julien Rome flew to the South Pole where he was able to successfully decipher the signal. But even this could not stop the impending catastrophe. Over his objections, the other scientists opened the capsule, releasing the alien contents from outer space and infecting the team with its presence. For the US government, their worst fears were confirmed: peaceful or not, the presence of aliens alone is a deadly threat to humanity…

If you’re thinking that this whole scenario sounds like something from a bad science fiction film, you’re right on the mark. The 2003 film was called Alien Hunter and it was a complete flop. What is interesting, however, is that Hollywood seems to have gone straight to the offices of US intelligence services for the plot line, because first of all, there actually is an increased level of UFO activity in Antarctica around the South Pole and secondly, the Americans have supposedly already had a military encounter with the aliens and have reason to be fearful of future confrontations.
Operation Highjump

Let’s flashback to 1946. One and a half years after the official end of World War II, a powerful American military fleet under the command of Rear Admiral Richard Evelyn Byrd set off for the South Pole. It was comprised of an aircraft carrier, twelve warships, a submarine, over twenty airplanes and helicopters as well as a crew of four thousand men. It was initially spun as a “scientific operation,” although Byrd himself said in plain language just before their departure on December 2, 1946: “…the purposes of the operation are primarily of a military nature….” He did not divulge any further details.

Aircraft reconnaissance began near Antarctica at the end of January 1947, mostly in the northern area around Queen Maud Land and covered more than 22,000 air kilometers as well as capturing more than 70,000 photographs. Then suddenly something very puzzling happened: the research voyage, scheduled for five months, was abruptly and without public acknowledgement canceled after just two months in what almost seemed to be panic. Equally puzzling is how the operation’s early end was all but covered in a veil of silence in the world press while its beginning had caused such a media stir. What happened?

Dr. Dimitri Filippowitsch, a high-ranking officer in the Russian military thinks he knows: “A torpedo boat destroyer and numerous aircraft were lost and dozens of soldiers and officers were killed. Upon his return Byrd told the members of the special government committee verbatim: ‘In case of a new war the US would be attacked by fighters that are able to fly from one pole to the other with incredible speed.’”
Stranded U-boats

On August 17, 1945, a year and a half before Byrd’s expedition, the German U-boats U-530 and U-977 surrendered in the Argentinean harbor Mar del Plata. According to Filippowitsch: “These were unusual U-boats from the so-called Führer convoy, an extremely secret formation, whose exact mission remains unknown to this day.” Because the crews of the submarines refused to talk, the Americans were able to learn very few details, although the captain of U-530 did supposedly speak of an operation by the name of Walküre 2. In line with this operation, his ship set sail from Kiel in Northern Germany for Antarctica two weeks before the end of the war; thanks to the Walther snorkel, it only had to surface once during the entire voyage across the Atlantic.

On board were passengers whose faces were allegedly masked, as well as important documents from the Third Reich. The captain of U-977, Heinz Schaeffer, confirmed that he sailed the same route with his boat shortly thereafter and in conducting their own research, the Americans realized that numerous German U-boats traveled in the direction of Antarctica during the war. What was the reason for these voyages?
Why the Storm on Antarctica?

Hitler’s Germany was extremely interested in Antarctica beginning in the 30s. Many historians attribute this to the occultist background of the upper echelons of the Nazi party, some of whom where members of the so-called Thule Society. In studying translations of old Tibetan, Indian and Greek texts, they came to (correctly) believe that our earth is hollow and inhabited within. Ultima Thule is supposed to have been the name of the capital city of the continent Hyperborea, older than Atlantis and Lemuria. According to Thule texts, the Hyperboreans were highly technologically and socially advanced. The continent was located in the Norwegian Sea and sunk over the progression of an ice age. During the catastrophe, however, the Hyperboreans dug large tunnels through the earth’s crust using giant machines and settled under what is today the Himalayas. It is said that they named their new kingdom Agharta or Agharti and its capital city Shamballah. The current Dalai Lama XIV as well as lamas from Mongolia and Tibet claim to have known this subterranean kingdom along with The Lord of the World (Rigden Iyepo) living there. Over the millenia, the subterranean kingdom has supposedly spread below the earth's entire surface with giant centers under the Sahara, the Mato Grosso in Brazil, Yucutan in Mexico, Mount Shasta in Northern California and many others.

The members of the Thule Society, hoped to make contact with these fabled inner-earth civilizations, sending out various expeditions – to Tibet, the Andes, the Mato Grosso – and to the North and South Poles where they suspected openings to the earth’s interior to be located. Their belief was influenced by old texts, clandestine knowledge of secret societies and through observations of the laws of nature, where they found hollow bodies, everywhere – in cells, the ovum, atoms, and comets. Even the hermetics helped to convince them that the earth must be a hollow body with their law “as above so below, as within so without, the macrocosm is as the microcosm, and vice versa.”

Their beliefs were further supported by odd reports from polar explorers. For example, the discovery of a warming wind north of the 76th parallel and the fact that birds and other animals are drawn in the direction of the pole, although it is allegedly cold and inhospitable there. They also found gray and colored snow, which revealed volcanic ash and flower pollen when thawed – along with giant animals frozen in the ice which they identified as mammoths, their bellies full of fresh grass. There are also reports of arctic explorers having seen a diffuse second sun.[1]

In the middle of November 1938, preparations for a German Antarctica expedition were underway when Richard Evelyn Byrd arrived in Hamburg as a guest of the Polar Shipping Association (Polarschiffahrtsgesellschaft) to present his Antarctica film With Byrd at the South Pole. Of the 82 people in the audience, 54 were future members of the ship’s crew. They were there for training purposes, because Admiral Byrd had all but flown over the South Pole in 1929.

Just a few weeks later on December 17, 1938, the MS Schwabenland, an aircraft carrier and a catapult ship under the command of Alfred Ritscher, set sail for the Nazi’s Antarctica expedition, reaching Antarctica on January 19, 1939. With the help of steam-powered catapults, the ship was capable of sending ten-ton aircraft into flight. The pilots flew over a territory of about 600,000 square kilometers in Northern Antarctica (roughly the size of the Third Reich at that time) and photographed nearly 350,000 square kilometers. In flight, the aircraft discharged aluminum rods bearing swastika flags every twenty-five kilometers and named the region they had claimed Neu Schwabenland. After the war, this region was annexed by the Norwegians and renamed Queen Maud Land. There are numerous contradictory assumptions with regards to the true goal of the expedition. The obvious German disinformation propagandized by Göring claimed that the expedition served to secure a food supply for the German people in the event of war, the waters around the Antarctic then teeming with whales.

After the Schwabenland expedition returned home to Germany in early 1939, continuing orders were issued to Karl von Dönitz, Supreme Commander of the U-boat fleet. The mission he and his men were to carry out is still today 90 percent speculation, based on 10 percent information. What is known for certain is that an increasing frequency of German U-boats began setting off in the direction of the South Pole from that point on in order to carry out missions that remain a secret even now. Two alleged statements from Karl von Dönitz are riddles to this day, the first of which reads: “My U-boat operators discovered a real earthly paradise.” Von Dönitz made the second statement in 1943 at the height of the German-Russian War and it is no less mysterious. Filppowitsch quotes: “Germany’s U-boat fleet can be proud that they’ve built an impenetrable fortress for the Führer on the other side of the world.” What was von Dönitz talking about? Did he mean Antarctica, or maybe even the southern region of South America? After all, that is where Hitler escaped to according to various sources.

Mysterious New Schwabenland

Some historians assume, however, that Admiral von Dönitz’s statement was not in reference to Argentina, but rather the region of Antarctica the Germans claimed as “New Schwabia” in 1939. Quite recently, giant subterranean lakes with water temperatures exceeding 18˚ C (64˚ F) were discovered under the kilometer thick Antarctic ice. Dome-shaped ice caves filled with warm air arch over the surface of the water, big enough to have served as secret U-boat bases. It is possible that a U-boat could have reached these secret bases by diving under the ice, because warm water currents originating from these lakes, which are constantly warmed from below, flow under the ice and into the ocean. These bases would have offered all imaginable advantages: protection from storm and ice as well as being rendered invisible and invulnerable to any foe.

“If the Germans had wanted to build secret bases or zones that had an extraterritorial status, the polar zones, including Antarctica, constituted ideal territory,” analyzed Russian serviceman Dr. Wladimir Wasiljew. There are actual records and supporting documents, which indicate the existence of a Nazi base in Antarctica, referred to as B-211. In early 1939 – after its successful expedition – the ship Schwabenland began a commuter service between Germany and the South Pole continent, whereby they not only transported the most modern mining engineering, trolleys, rails and gigantic tunneling presses, but also brought in scientists from different fields, engineers and highly skilled workers. The most likely of all the hypotheses – next to the exploitation of natural resources or control of the region – is no doubt the Nazis’ desire to have a secure escape point in the event of a wartime defeat as well as their obsession to somehow penetrate into the legendary inner earth.

Thus after 1942, according to Dr. Wasiljew, the systematic relocation of German scientists, important skilled personnel and members of the NSDAP to New Schwabenland had begun. He also argues this is the reason why numerous specialists and scientists who the Americans had hoped to obtain for their own military research endeavors suddenly disappeared after the war without a trace. It is also the case that the fate and whereabouts of at least one hundred German U-boats are still unknown to this day.
An Attack of the Third Kind

Let us return to the still unexplained reasons for the termination of Admiral Byrd’s Operation Highjump. After his fleet precipitously left the Antarctic at the beginning of March 1947, Richard Byrd conducted his only interview with Lee Van Atta, the El Mercurio newspaper correspondent from Santiago, Chile, who was allowed to accompany the expedition as a journalist. Van Atta wrote: “… Admiral Byrd declared today that it was imperative for the United States to initiate immediate defense measures against hostile airplanes originating from Polar Regions.” He also emphasized, “it is important to remain in alarm status and be vigilant along the entire ice belt, which is the last bulwark against an invasion.”

According to the Russian military man Wasiljew, upon returning to Washington, Byrd supposedly spoke of an assault on the expedition – an assault by flying saucers that surfaced out of the water at high speeds and caused drastic losses to the naval unit!

Experienced fighter pilot John Sayerson, witness and crew member of the expedition supposedly described the dramatic battle of, February 26, 1947 with the following words: “The things popped out of the water like they were being chased by the devil and flew at such high speeds between the masts that the antennae between the wind eddy ripped. Some airplanes that were able to get into the air off the Casablanca were hit moments later by unfamiliar blasts that came from the flying saucers and crashed next to the ships. I was on deck the Casablanca at the time and was totally taken aback. These things did not make a single sound as they flew between our ships and spit deadly fire. Suddenly, the torpedo boat destroyer Maddock, which was about 10 cable lengths (less than 2 miles) away from us, went up in flames and began to sink. Rescue boats from other ships were sent despite the danger. The nightmare lasted about 20 minutes. When the flying saucers dove again under the water we began to count our losses. They were appalling.”

Assuming John Sayerson exists and he is telling the truth – whom did these flying saucers belong to? Perhaps the Third Reich as some sources persistently claim to this very day? Let us suppose that the American intelligence services actually had at their disposal information that proved the relocation of important technology and scientists to Antarctica – then it would be self-evident why the polar area attracted its interest. In all likelihood, this information was actually so disconcerting that the Americans provided the polar explorer Richard Byrd with all-out military resources for the annihilation of the suspected Nazi base in Antarctica, an unsuccessful plan.

A total of eleven magazine pages enlightens readers as to what the Reich Germans knew about UFO technology at the end of the Second World War, and whether they really were able to travel through time and space. Renowned Russian military experts and members of the American secret service talk about the top-secret technical developments of the Nazi period, and what the modern HAARP project has to do with this. Also read the diary of Richard E. Byrd, the American Admiral who flew to the middle of the earth in 1947 and found a far superior race in terms of technology and ethics. Current world leaders still wish to withhold his startling chronicles from us even today – and with good reason.
Even today strange things are happening at the South Pole… but maybe it’s best for you to read about it for yourself

[SonOfTheGods]

Operation Tabarin was a World War II military undertaking by the Admiralty and the Colonial Office in 1943 to establish a permanent British presence in the Antarctic.^[1] The bases built were the first ever to be constructed in Antarctica.^[2]

 

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^{there's hundreds of reports, suspicious activity going on currently in Antarctica}

 

TaoBums needs to raise some funds so we can send Northern Avid Judo Ant there to get some info

Edited August 25, 2013 by SonOfTheGods

[Uroboros]

Operation Tabarin was a World War II military undertaking by the Admiralty and the Colonial Office in 1943 to establish a permanent British presence in the Antarctic.^[1] The bases built were the first ever to be constructed in Antarctica.^[2]

 

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^{there's hundreds of reports, suspicious activity going on currently in Antarctica}

 

TaoBums needs to raise some funds so we can send Northern Avid Judo Ant there to get some info

 

YEA!

 

Lets send NAJA! NAJA will get the scoop.

 

Scooping them snow cones. Chillin on the beaches with polar bears.

 

Snapping photos of giant mechs from space station 9.

 

This is a good plan.

[Apech]

Operation Tabarin was a World War II military undertaking by the Admiralty and the Colonial Office in 1943 to establish a permanent British presence in the Antarctic.^[1] The bases built were the first ever to be constructed in Antarctica.^[2]

 

^----

 

^{there's hundreds of reports, suspicious activity going on currently in Antarctica}

 

TaoBums needs to raise some funds so we can send Northern Avid Judo Ant there to get some info

 

 

I'd be happier if you went yourself ... perhaps a two to three year survey.

[Vanir Thunder Dojo Tan]

i'd be pissed if i didnt get to go, apech!

[SonOfTheGods]

Edited August 25, 2013 by SonOfTheGods