Damo Mitchell - Need Advice

[Apech]

1 hour ago, justjoseph said:

Assemblage Point (AP) position that constitutes the overall spiritual development level, and allow scanning of the mind, mental bodies, and chakras. 

This is how Neirong knows that Damo has had "A lifelong 30+ years, ego trip with nothing to show in the end, unfortunate, but well deserved."

From Castaneda?

[justjoseph]

30 minutes ago, Apech said:

From Castaneda?

Not sure, I only know what Neirong has written about and some brief time spent on the casteneda reddit page in which they talk about "stopping the world" by moving the AP position, interesting stuff, if you like magic type cultivation. I prefer physical transformation stuff like jade bones and physical siddhis. 

[MIchael80]

22 hours ago, justjoseph said:

Not sure, I only know what Neirong has written about and some brief time spent on the casteneda reddit page in which they talk about "stopping the world" by moving the AP position, interesting stuff, if you like magic type cultivation. I prefer physical transformation stuff like jade bones and physical siddhis. 

Hi! 

 

What is jade bones?

[Apech]

4 hours ago, MIchael80 said:

Hi! 

 

What is jade bones?

dem bones dem bones dem jade bones

[justjoseph]

20 hours ago, MIchael80 said:

Hi! 

 

What is jade bones?

Hi Michael, it's exactly what it sounds like, bones that change due to certain internal practices so that when the practioner dies, the skeleton takes on a different appearance than the one normally seen. There's all sorts of weird and wacky tales of such things, whether they're true or not is another thing.

[Antares]

1 hour ago, justjoseph said:

Hi Michael, it's exactly what it sounds like, bones that change due to certain internal practices so that when the practioner dies, the skeleton takes on a different appearance than the one normally seen.

So from this I guess in case of the "Dragon Balls " achievement it is what only remains after one dies?

[justjoseph]

@Antares
Yes, sort of like "Sharira" if you've seen them before. 

Edited Saturday at 07:07 PM by justjoseph

[Antares]

27 minutes ago, justjoseph said:

@Antares
Yes, sort of like "Sharira" if you've seen them before. 

i have seen Buddhist ones only, they looked like jewelry

[justjoseph]

2 minutes ago, Antares said:

i have seen Buddhist ones only, they looked like jewelry

Yes quite an unusual thing to come out of body isn't it, makes one wonder what else could be cultivated. 

[Antares]

34 minutes ago, justjoseph said:

makes one wonder what else could be cultivated. 

i have not been to China yet, give me a chance  bro

[Neirong]

On 05.02.2026 at 11:05 PM, justjoseph said:

interesting stuff, if you like magic type cultivation. I prefer physical transformation stuff like jade bones and physical siddhis. 

 

Agreed, why do boring stuff like soul development, astral travel, explore the vast cosmos, walk on the path to immortality, develop useless siddhis like third eye that allow to see spiritual world, energies, and identify level of each human soul, separating scamgong frauds from genuine masters. 
 

When you can shit jade bones after death. 
 

17 hours ago, justjoseph said:

all sorts of weird and wacky tales of such things, whether they're true or not is another thing

According to wacky tales. 

[justjoseph]

2 hours ago, Neirong said:

 

Agreed, why do boring stuff like soul development, astral travel, explore the vast cosmos, walk on the path to immortality, develop useless siddhis like third eye that allow to see spiritual world, energies, and identify level of each human soul, separating scamgong frauds from genuine masters. 
 

When you can shit jade bones after death. 
 

According to wacky tales. 

Nobody here said those things are boring. You obviously care about these things, which is great, you've found your path, but your path is not everyone else's. That fact that you find them exciting is more to do with you than any inherent value in them. 

For the record, i find some of those things you spoke about very interesting but i also have other interests, why does that bother you ?

[kakapo]

On 2/1/2026 at 2:38 PM, Neirong said:

 

Mundane people can be scammed, deceived and be delusional. (cult members) 

Their consciousness is weak.
Magi see truth - objective reality. Third eye development allows to see all energies, "not a particular energy". 

I am sharing objective reality scan, that has been peer reviewed (blindly) with several advanced practitioners and masters.
It is 100% accurate.

When you stand on scale, the information they show is not an opinion. 
It is a factual data representing your body mass. 

The public scan is available in the latest article https://ancientmasters.org/library/johnchang-faqi-mopai

 

You speak about objective reality and truth.

 

If I recall correctly, you are the same person who claimed to be able to shoot eye lasers, fly faster than the speed of light, fight ancient Naga demons, have a bunch of anime style elf girlfriends, inject brain power upgrades, and have a real life Rick and Morty portal gun to open portals to other worlds. 

 

If that is correct I am not sure your definition of objective is the same as the Merriam Webster.

Edited yesterday at 01:55 PM by kakapo

[kakapo]

On 8/22/2025 at 10:27 AM, Rio said:

I'm looking for a Neigong/internal arts teacher. At first, I was drawn to Nathan Brine because I liked his vibe, but I saw a post from @freeform saying that the foundations (which are of the utmost importance) are not well covered in his teaching.

He recommended Damo Mitchell, whose approach is close to what he himself is studying.

The thing is, I don’t really feel the vibe from Damo. I’m usually very sensitive to this kind of thing, and I trust my intuition—so it would feel wrong for me to ignore it and follow his courses.

At the same time, if I choose Nathan Brine, I’m worried I might miss out on important elements.
 

This topic on Reddit also didn’t really help me decide in favor of Damo:

 

So I’d really appreciate some advice.
 

For me, internal arts are a way to align more deeply with my spiritual beliefs and help me move closer to dao. But my feelings are telling me that Damo Mitchell might not fully embody this—at least not as much as Nathan does.

 

What are your thoughts?

 

 

 

When I was younger, I was naive. I projected my own mindset onto everyone else, assuming they used the same logic I did.

 

Now I realize what a mistake that was. There are people online who are completely disconnected from reality. They are living in a total fantasy world.

 

When you go to a forum to find the group consensus, you expect the answers to have merit. But you have to understand that most of those people aren't qualified to speak.

 

Here is a tool to slice through the BS: Ask what hard, objective evidence exists to back the lineage.

 

If all they have are opinions and stories, then that lineage only achieves subjective goals. It might feel real to them, but they cannot provide evidence to back that belief up.

 

It’s the difference between asking for fashion advice versus measuring the physics of a 50-caliber slug hitting ballistic gel. One has subjective value (personal preferences). The other has objective value (what actually happens).

Edited yesterday at 02:54 PM by kakapo

[-ꦥꦏ꧀ ꦱꦠꦿꦶꦪꦺꦴ-]

2 hours ago, kakapo said:

If I recall correctly, you are the same person who claimed to be able to shoot eye lasers, fly faster than the speed of light, fight ancient Naga demons, have a bunch of anime style elf girlfriends, inject brain power upgrades, and have a real life Rick and Morty portal gun to open portals to other worlds. 

Where did he say this?

[kakapo]

39 minutes ago, -ꦥꦏ꧀ ꦱꦠꦿꦶꦪꦺꦴ- said:

Where did he say this?

 

This is typical Chūnibyō syndrome stuff.

 

Many of the threads where this is mentioned were moved to the staff eyes only section, and can no longer be found via google. 

 

Here are a few examples, but these are pretty tame comparatively. 

 

https://www.thedaobums.com/topic/50649-brain-cleansing-in-the-internal-arts/?do=findComment&comment=922530

 

"Thats why for example, I could watch 20k+ 1000hz high quality movies, or remember past lives, or visualize a whole city projection."

 

https://www.thedaobums.com/topic/50381-levitation-and-possibly-flight/?do=findComment&comment=922713

 

Question:

As far as delusions go, you claim to have a harem of goddesses, shoot eye lasers, travel faster than the speed of light, open portals to other worlds to fight ancient 100,000 Naga demons, etc.

 

Answer:

"Those aint delusions, these are tiny percentage of extracts from things I have personally encountered on other planes. I have met and seen things you cannot even phantom." 

 

 

https://www.thedaobums.com/topic/50710-questions-to-master/?do=findComment&comment=924660

 

 

"I had brain implants and other stuff."

 

 

https://www.thedaobums.com/topic/50755-divine-truths-from-master/?do=findComment&comment=926199

 

"I can easily capture your soul after it leaves the body, and put it inside the stone in my magic underground basement lab.

 

You will be my guest for next 1000 years, and mb you will also learn something, but I will never let you back into "free" life.

 

I might allow you to reincarnate in some of my lab rats." 

 

 

https://www.thedaobums.com/topic/50720-what-is-taoism/?do=findComment&comment=926138

 

 "Having third Eye open I can see things that normal humans never can imagine, like a tentacle larvae crawling over an energy egg shaped field which is human.

 

 

https://www.thedaobums.com/topic/49762-request-access-to-private-gender-subforums/?tab=comments#comment-926426

 

 I am sitting in mountains and meditating while having multiple clones, and one of the clones is dreaming, and he goes internet from dreamworld without any "new age" devices like computer or phone. Old school is best school. "

 

 

https://www.thedaobums.com/topic/50781-western-mopai-censorship-for-sean/?do=findComment&comment=926903

 

"I have passed through several galaxies in the matter of seconds, so yeah, I was travelling at a much higher speed than Light."

 

 

 

https://www.thedaobums.com/topic/50720-what-is-taoism/?do=findComment&comment=926577

 

 "Because to go through 1 million years of my own memories of past lives it is quite a work to do unlike googling baidu to find divine truths.

 

When I will be 2000 times stronger than I am now, I may commit myself to this research."

 

 

 

https://www.thedaobums.com/topic/50781-western-mopai-censorship-for-sean/?do=findComment&comment=926930

"I was never hurt by people making fun of my levitation ... or portal opening ability. I have had too much of these experiences to be able to doubt it or care about someone else opinion on the topic." 

[-ꦥꦏ꧀ ꦱꦠꦿꦶꦪꦺꦴ-]

My friend, this level of obsession is unhealthy

[Wilhelm]

Yeah come on man just let him LARP, he's not hurting anyone 

[idquest]

5 hours ago, kakapo said:

 

 

When I was younger, I was naive. I projected my own mindset onto everyone else, assuming they used the same logic I did.

 

Now I realize what a mistake that was. There are people online who are completely disconnected from reality. They are living in a total fantasy world.

 

When you go to a forum to find the group consensus, you expect the answers to have merit. But you have to understand that most of those people aren't qualified to speak.

 

Here is a tool to slice through the BS: Ask what hard, objective evidence exists to back the lineage.

 

If all they have are opinions and stories, then that lineage only achieves subjective goals. It might feel real to them, but they cannot provide evidence to back that belief up.

 

It’s the difference between asking for fashion advice versus measuring the physics of a 50-caliber slug hitting ballistic gel. One has subjective value (personal preferences). The other has objective value (what actually happens).

 

You are too hard on people. The reality is that vast majority can't even understand what 'objective evidence' means. When asked, most people are convinced that somebody's verbal narrative is as good enough as 'hard objective evidence'.

[Neirong]

5 hours ago, kakapo said:

You speak about objective reality and truth.

 

So, instead of refuting any arguments or blunt truths told in that article - https://ancientmasters.org/library/johnchang-faqi-mopai , you decided to spend hours trying to discredit someone you do not know with things you do not understand. 

 

It is hard to refute truth, but you can always seek qualified guidance and support, theraupist sessions exist that work with mental health problems like this. 

 

5 hours ago, kakapo said:

assuming they used the same logic I did.

Do not make a victim out of yourself, you have been going around for years talking crap about every single teacher - teaching, justifying it with the lack of "hard evidence".
 

5 hours ago, kakapo said:

Here is a tool to slice through the BS

 

A much better tool would be to open third eye and be able to evaluate every teacher and their level of cultivation yourself.
Methods you follow do not grant even the most basic - core abilities. 
 

5 hours ago, kakapo said:

If all they have are opinions and stories, then that lineage only achieves subjective goals.

 

I did AP scan on John Chang as well, it was not included in the article, but it is way below our standards for teaching. With AP upper manipura you cannot claim yourself to be a Magus. Adepts have AP anahata that is the base level for practicing magic.

[Wilhelm]

11 minutes ago, Neirong said:

you decided to spend hours trying to discredit someone

He just quoted you man - if that's all that it takes to discredit you, you might not have a leg to stand on here 

[Cobie]

Chuunibyou is a Japanese slang term for c. 13 - 14 years old who claim they have secret powers/knowledge, in order to stand out from the crowd. 

(Chūnibyō / Chuunibyou , different romanisations of the Japanese 中 二 病 .
中 二 病 (zhong1 er4 bing4) centre two disease; middle school 2nd year syndrome; eighth-grader syndrome.)

 

6 hours ago, kakapo said:

This is typical Chūnibyō syndrome stuff.

 

Yes I would agree, based on your long list of his claims.  

 

Quote

Question: As far as delusions go, you claim to have a harem of goddesses, shoot eye lasers, travel faster than the speed of light, open portals to other worlds to fight ancient 100,000 Naga demons, etc.

Answer: "Those aint delusions, these are tiny percentage of extracts from things I have personally encountered on other planes. I have met and seen things you cannot even phantom."

 

At the root it is imo attention-seeking behaviour. They will always do more of whatever they get attention for, so best ignored.

 

It reminded me of these posts:

 

On 04/02/2026 at 10:01 PM, Cobie said:

never argue with a fool

 

On 05/02/2026 at 7:31 AM, ChiDragon said:

only a fool argues with a fool.

In general imo it’s best to focus on your own goals and ignore idiots.

 

.

 

Edited 18 hours ago by Cobie

[kakapo]

4 hours ago, Neirong said:

 

So, instead of refuting any arguments or blunt truths told in that article - https://ancientmasters.org/library/johnchang-faqi-mopai , you decided to spend hours trying to discredit someone you do not know with things you do not understand. 

 

It is hard to refute truth, but you can always seek qualified guidance and support, theraupist sessions exist that work with mental health problems like this. 

 

Do not make a victim out of yourself, you have been going around for years talking crap about every single teacher - teaching, justifying it with the lack of "hard evidence".
 

 

A much better tool would be to open third eye and be able to evaluate every teacher and their level of cultivation yourself.
Methods you follow do not grant even the most basic - core abilities. 
 

 

I did AP scan on John Chang as well, it was not included in the article, but it is way below our standards for teaching. With AP upper manipura you cannot claim yourself to be a Magus. Adepts have AP anahata that is the base level for practicing magic.

 

 

I asked for moderator permission to respond to that link you keep posting. 

 

I was told you are allowed to post all the links you like, but I cannot respond in kind.

 

[email protected]

 

Please email me , we can chat over email about it if you like.

 

Thanks.

[Apech]

OK enough of this.  Thread locked.