My Experience With Black Magic

[Lala Nila]

1 hour ago, Cobie said:

 

n = 1, I wouldn’t draw conclusions based on that. Imo on display is a load of prejudice, fabricated in your own mind.

 

 

just my own experience and opinion from being around a lot of different people in my life, maybe is was just him, sure. But, this is what he explicitly said to me. He was very direct in his opinion of me as well, extremely direct. It's certainly not a blanket statement nor is it prejudice to point out cultural differences and the way in which people interact with each other and social norms. Each culture has their own set of nuances and being an outsider it can be different to navigate them and break that code. I've had a few German boyfriends as well and they acted in a very similar tone. It takes time to understand the nuances of other cultures as we're all different. These differences are fabricated in my own mind- as an outsider trying to understand different way of doing things/interacting that I wasn't used to. But once you understand, then it becomes easier.

 

A basic example of this is how the CIA instructs operatives on how to act "less American." Americans have a particular way of leaning on things that apparently is not common in other countries outside North America, this habit can be very difficult to break. It's similar with smiling. Smiling at strangers and greeting those walking down the street maybe normal and expected in some areas/countries, in others it can get you in a lot of trouble. 

[Nuralshamal]

2 hours ago, Cobie said:

 

n = 1, I wouldn’t draw conclusions based on that. Imo on display is a load of prejudice, fabricated in your own mind.

 

@Cobie You're the most judgemental one here pal, you're prejudiced coming like that dropping a value judgement on another human being with zero sense of humanity and no value add whatsoever.

Do you even know anything about culture?

What she's stating is research based and used by Special Forces units in active warzones for optimising possiblity of sucess in interaction with combatants as well as civilian actors from different countries.

I know cause I've been there alongside them, trained them, fought alongside them and was sought after by PhD and cultural researchers at the national army academy as an active duty officer with several deployments behind me for my cultural knowledge.

It's called "neutral vs affective" and based on data from more than 40 countries by Trompenaars and Hamden-Turner, and is supported by parallel findings of other highly reputed cultural researchers like Edward T Hall, Hofstede, Ekman and Schwarz.

If you consult any of them, you will indeed find Dutch, German and Scandinavian countries to be some of the cultures the LEAST emotional and the least valuing emotional display, actually actively disliking it, with the most extreme being russians, indians and japanese, whereas on the other extreme you'll find countries like the US and South America highly valuing the open display of emotionality.

So coming in and saying "you prejudiced" just showcases your own lack of knowledge in this area and your own prejudice

Asides from my army career, university degree and professional intercultural experience, I also personally live in Northern Europe, and what she's describing is indeed the real, objective, factual truth about these peoples, as backed by science. And of course @Lala Nila's experience.

[Nuralshamal]

1 hour ago, Kasper said:

 Crazy. Gotta take time to digest that.

Yes, sorry for dropping all these truth bombs.

It's not my intention to in any way, shape or form paint a "negative only" picture, I'm just sharing some of my personal observations.

I do think he's overall a pretty good human being, sharing ancient wisdom, practical methods and so on.

But like I said, he's also just a human being like the rest of us, with family and marital issues, issues around money, sex, being social, family issues and so on, it's normal and natural.

So hope it's not giving off the wrong message.

Ofc for me personally I was so hurt by what happened to me, but I don't see him as all good or all bad, he's just a guy, he has his positives and negatives, just like we all do.

[Nungali]

12 hours ago, Nuralshamal said:

Just saw your mention of "True Will", are you by any chance involved with the Diamond Approach or Diamond Logos? 

 

No.   I had to look it up to see what it is 

- if AI is accurate on this ? 

AI Overview

 

The Diamond Approach is a comprehensive spiritual path created by A.H. Almaas, focusing on psychological exploration and meditation to uncover Essential Aspects of being. 

 

( I certainly use psychological exploration and meditation to uncover essential aspects of being . )

 

The Diamond Logos teachings, also known as Diamond Logos Teachings (DLT), are a branch of the Diamond Approach founded by Faisal Muqaddam, which bridges therapy and meditation to express spiritual truth through embodied experience and inspired speech. 

 

Diamond Approach 

 

• Founder:

  A.H. Almaas 

   
• Focus:

  A "spiritually informed psychology or a psychologically grounded spirituality". 

   
• Key Concepts:

  Explores the "Essential Aspects" of one's true nature, which are differentiated qualities of the unmanifest spirit that appear in conscious experience. 

   

  ( This is a key part in what I do -  'explore essential aspects of on'e true nature ' ,  a few ways ; studying  human nature { individual and collective }  life long study of anthropology  starting  over 40 years back at Sydney University . That focused mainly on cultural anthropology . Also a life time of studying and practicing in hermetics  { whose maxim is 'Man, know thyself'} , so similar again .  Personally I have always been a 'psychonaut ' . I have also done some study on psychology , a few different types including exopsychology  and sociology . )

   
• Practice:

  Involves individual sessions, peer group work, partner inquiry, and teachers trained by the Ridhwan Foundation. 

   

Diamond Logos Teachings (DLT)

• Founder:

  Faisal Muqaddam, who branched off from the original Diamond Approach. 

   
• Focus:

  Aims to be a bridge between therapy and meditation, linking the personality to the Absolute. 

   

  ( I think this is rather essential . One of the better writers and teachers in the western tradition was Israel Regardie  trained and initiated in the western tradition and also psychology and a psychiatrist .  -  I think after reading  some of the stories in this thread we can see the need for the  dual balance in these two subjects . )

   
• Key Concepts:

  Embodies spiritual truth and expresses it through the "cosmic speech" or "logos-speaking," where essential truth fills the presence and words of the speaker. 

   

  ( At times , but I am obviously not always in that  state .  My 'karma' as it were is more of 'the story teller '  and works better on the oral level .  A  lot of the time I dont bother .... 'what use has a pig for pearls ? '   However in the past I had a couple of good students  and that would encourage   the faculty  { I am not going to say it encouraged me ... it encouraged that 'faculty ' }  .... they would say I had a 'way of putting things ' that helped them understand ,  sometimes noted were taken by them ... which surprised me .    However I am not one to claim any sort of verbalization that is 'essential truth '  ) 

   
• Practice:

  Combines individual sessions, peer groups, and partner inquiry, with the emphasis on the embodied experience of truth. 

   

  (  Hmmmm .... could be AI speak ?   ' embodied experience of truth ' ?  

   

  Its probably more productive to read my writings on 'True Will' / 'Khvarenah ' .  ) 

 

 

[Nungali]

9 hours ago, Nuralshamal said:

I understand the uncomfortableness of grouping according to race and skin-colour due to the past decade of political correctness, and ofc the general history of mankind.

But it's not a theory produced mentally in someone's head.

There is a spiritual truth in race, like it or not, and I get that "white vs non-white" can be upgraded in terms of its definition and precision, just like you correctly state that eastern europeans are also white. It's just for ease of use, and it's not the color per se, it's the race or ethnic group.

If you develop your soul and energy, you can clearly feel that each race has a different type of soul and energy, it's not mental, it's not from someone's head, it's just a lived, experiential fact and truth. We've learnt to mentally block ourselves from sensing this, but it's a base truth everyone on planet Earth experiences easily, simply and immediately upon contact with other people. This felt, sensed and experiental fact is then what has led to all the problems (racism, slavery, genocide, ethnocentrism, you name it).

But that's like saying we shouldn't discuss apples and pears, as they're both fruits. Yes, but why not see things for what they are and then take it from there? It's the mental interpretation of the experience that's flawed, not the base, sensed, felt, matter-of-fact observation.

Races are different, it's just a fact. What we then do with that fact, okay, we can then discuss that.

I do agree that indo-europeans came from the same, that's why all the languages are in the same family, that's why Nordic mythology, Greek mythology, Hinduism, you name it, is so similar. It's literally the same source material, which then over millenia morphed, just like the languages.

E.g. Indra is god of thunder, Thor is god of thunder, Zeus is god of thunder etc. The word Friday is from "Freya's Day", Freya being the nordic god of love, sexuality and pleasure. In astrology friday is associated with Venus, and Friday is the best day for a lot of Goddess worship in Hinduism and so on. It's similar, because it's the same source - same original people or race, same original language, same original religion, which then slowly morphed over time as this one people spread geographically.

And I do agree with a lot of the historical, religious and cultural observations you mentioned.

People of different races, cultures and religions even have different auras, I'm not "an island", meaning I'm just one guy sharing my observations, Barbara Brennan who's put in pretty high regard in the white (sorry to use it again, I'm teasing you ) new age community, she's also clearly shared her observations about this, as has Rosalyn Bruyère.

There are differences, it's not a value judgement at all from my side, it's just a matter of fact observation, nothing wrong with that. We're all children of God, but our race is like our vehicle, e.g. some drive a ferrari, some a range rover, some a volkswagen, each has pros and cons, but there's no difference in inherent value, all bring their uniqueness to the table. I think it's beautiful, it's incredible how God created all this.

Just zoom in on two grains of sand on a beach, they will be different. Zoom in on two drops of water, they'll also be unique, same with two snowflakes. But grains of sand have something in common, they're sand, drops are water, and snowflakes are snowflakes. It's not a value judgement, it's just an observation.

 

yeah thats all 'cool'   but there are no 'races'  , just one .  But within that I acknowledge the variety and differences you point out . 

 

And one is better served to not think difference is based on  color .

 

Dont mistake me as being ruled by a desire to be  politically correct  - I am far from that ! 

 

We have a thing here that the indigenous refer to as 'coconuts'  - they say 'brown on the outside  , white on the inside ' .  And there is a huge amount of white people that are accepted as Aboriginals ...  by the Aboriginals -  even the 'primitive Australian Aboriginal ' states  Aboriginality is not a question of color .  Its  genetic and cultural .

 

For example  as a child I was a 'black sheep' , strange weird and different to my family , didnt fit in and they and I could not comprehend it .  But as soon as I went and stayed in  an Aboriginal 'society '  ( and I dont mean a highly modernized one ...   a more traditional approach in a permanent 'bush camp '  ) everything made sense and people understood me and related to me . 

[Kasper]

11 hours ago, Nuralshamal said:

Yes, sorry for dropping all these truth bombs.

It's not my intention to in any way, shape or form paint a "negative only" picture, I'm just sharing some of my personal observations.

I do think he's overall a pretty good human being, sharing ancient wisdom, practical methods and so on.

But like I said, he's also just a human being like the rest of us, with family and marital issues, issues around money, sex, being social, family issues and so on, it's normal and natural.

So hope it's not giving off the wrong message.

Ofc for me personally I was so hurt by what happened to me, but I don't see him as all good or all bad, he's just a guy, he has his positives and negatives, just like we all do.

 

There is a lot of talk about not speaking ill of your teachers, but I think it is important to tell the truth, so other people can learn from it, if they want. So thank you for being open about it.

From what I have heard at qitalks etc., he is quite open about getting angry sometimes and not being perfect, which is great. However, plastic surgery doesn't fit with being a spiritual teacher in my opinion. Caring about your looks is fine and even appropriate in many ways, but surgery is too extreme in my view.

I just thought that his skin were getting better because of his practice.

Btw. my first message about SFQ wasn't a suggestion, but a question actually. But I do have one - Bodhi meditation might help. But again, I'm no expert. Just wanted to mention them in case it could help you. 

[-ꦥꦏ꧀ ꦱꦠꦿꦶꦪꦺꦴ-]

I have to agree with @Nuralshamal and @Lala Nila

 

It is very obvious if you are of mixed heritage how different each group is. There’s nothing wrong with it, no one is better and no one is worse for it, just different. Of course not everyone in a group is 100% the same, we are just talking generally.
 

For example, being half Javanese and half English, one very obvious observation I’ve noticed is that for the English, you would be considered weird for believing in the supernatural, spirits, energy etc, but for the Javanese, you would be considered weird if you didn’t believe in it.

[Nuralshamal]

1 minute ago, -ꦥꦏ꧀ ꦱꦠꦿꦶꦪꦺꦴ- said:

I have to agree with @Nuralshamal and @Lala Nila

 

It is very obvious if you are of mixed heritage how different each group is. There’s nothing wrong with it, no one is better and no one is worse for it, just different. Of course not everyone in a group is 100% the same, we are just talking generally.
 

For example, being half Javanese and half English, one very obvious observation I’ve noticed is that for the English, you would be considered weird for believing in the supernatural, spirits, energy etc, but for the Javanese, you would be considered weird if you didn’t believe in it.

Thanks for sharing! 
 

Yes, being mixed and growing up between cultures it’s blatantly obvious just how different people and cultures are, and from an early age you learn exactly what the key differences are, sometimes in a painful way.

 

Eg I have so many painful experiences in my school years, where I was the only person in class who thought and felt a certain way about different topics, like gender roles, importance of a higher power, hierarchy, respect, just things as basic as sharing your candy with your friends I got a huge scolding for. 
 

It’s a special kind of life when your whole reality is one way, but all the people you meet and interact with in school, at sports, at work, at the store, when you’re out and about act in a way you don’t understand, that’s in complete opposition to your own natural way of life. 
 

Eg ‘just being happy’ is hugely triggering, but it’s a well known thing, they call it ‘African happiness’, a natural love for life itself. ‘Don’t worry, be happy’, just my own simple, natural, happy temperament can make people attack you. Simply existing, being yourself will trigger a desire in others to correct you to their way of life. Kind of like what Cobie was doing. 
 

A natural desire to convert others to what they themselves believe and think, cause all else is ‘wrong’.
 

I could go on and on about examples, but ofc if you are born and raised mono culturally, and you live in a country with the same culture, you won’t necessarily experience these things as shockingly, therefore not seeing how big the differences in daily way of life, thinking, feeling and acting really is. It’s huge! 
 

Doesn’t mean we can’t be in harmony, but it starts with seeing and acknowledging our uniqueness, then proceeding on what we agree on in a mutually pleasant, beneficial and respectful way. 

[jgd]

52 minutes ago, -ꦥꦏ꧀ ꦱꦠꦿꦶꦪꦺꦴ- said:

I have to agree with @Nuralshamal and @Lala Nila

 

It is very obvious if you are of mixed heritage how different each group is. There’s nothing wrong with it, no one is better and no one is worse for it, just different. Of course not everyone in a group is 100% the same, we are just talking generally.
 

For example, being half Javanese and half English, one very obvious observation I’ve noticed is that for the English, you would be considered weird for believing in the supernatural, spirits, energy etc, but for the Javanese, you would be considered weird if you didn’t believe in it.

 

 The differences become crystal clear if you work at the tourism sector. You can almost predict how the guests are going to behave at your hotel from the second they are doing the check in. It has an uncanny accuracy. I have probably met tourists from over one hundred  different countries.

[Master Logray]

2 hours ago, -ꦥꦏ꧀ ꦱꦠꦿꦶꦪꦺꦴ- said:

For example, being half Javanese and half English, one very obvious observation I’ve noticed is that for the English, you would be considered weird for believing in the supernatural, spirits, energy etc, but for the Javanese, you would be considered weird if you didn’t believe in it.

 

Really?  the English/Scottish/Irish got their Druids, pagans, witches and wicca.   Nowadays they even have Harry Potter.

[Master Logray]

On 8/31/2025 at 5:53 PM, Nuralshamal said:

Causes
1) Black Magic

 

However! Black magic is HUGE in Africa, the Middle East and Asia as well. So if you have any family members there, or if you visit these places, it's good to be aware that this possibility is there. Also if you're originally from there, or if many of your social circle are from there, you can also be aware.
 

2) Karmic Debt to souls currently not incarnated or spiritual debt, Daoist ‘yin debt’
I came into contact with the daoist occult idea of yin debt, or karma owed to spirits from previous lifetimes.

No matter the protection, these cannot be stopped until your debt is paid. It can be done through rituals. After I did 3 of these, it stopped.
 

3) Kshetra Palaka, Tu Di, local spirit kings
In both Hinduism, Daoism and lots of occult systems, each local area is governed by a spirit king. If you do any kind of spiritual practice and work with spiritual energies, and this spirit king doesn’t like you, it can create problems. Eg if you live in a Christian nation, but worship or practice with different energies.
 

There are again certain mantras, rituals and offerings used in Daoism and Hinduism to befriend the local spirit king.

When this is done, no black magic or evil spirits can touch you in that particular local area.

Just be aware whenever you go to a new area, his protection cannot follow, and you’ll have to befriend the new local spirit king.
 

4) Conceal your blessings, jealousy and evil eye
Whenever something good happens to you, don’t let anyone know. If you trigger a feeling of lack in others, even your loved ones, involuntarily they will create a negative energy that can harm you.
 

5) Spirits following you home
Restless spirits that don’t want to move on linger in areas of their former life addictions. Eg clubs, brothels, casinos, all the addictions of dancing, eating, gambling, sex etc. If you frequent these places, you can invite them in.
 

6) Destroying own protection
Intake of alcohol, drugs and cigarettes will weaken your normal spiritual protection and allow them to attack you. Also any kind of sinful action like hate, anger, violence, illicit sex etc

7) Enmity with others
If you are not a good person, others will naturally harbor negative thougts and feelings towards you. Thoughts and feelings are also energy. So depending on the intensity, as well as the overall power of that person's energy, this can also harm you. The solution is to work it out, forgive it each and solve the problem

 

 

Black Magic:   Peculiar things do exist.  For normal people, it is better to follow the Confucian attitude - respect the ghosts and gods but keep a long distance.    A Taiwan mystic has encountered a statue fallen from an abandoned temple.  She set it up again but found something try to attach to her.  Then she was angry and kicked it down slope.  So even with "proper" religious setting, one should be careful.

 

Karmic Debts:  While other problems can be solved by ZhengYi magicians, Karmic Debt cannot.   It could be an excuse when the Taoist cannot do anything.  The normal solution is cultivation, following a proper Taoist/Buddhist religion, good deeds, good diet etc.  Burning joss papers said to help too if it is not so serious.

 

Local spirit kings:  In Chinese community, every home or grave used to have a Shen of the Door, which is a red wood plate which says the dragon kings of 5 directions, Lords of the location, God of fortune.  We could offer incenses and wine once a year, or even daily.   It is mainly to avoid evil spirits coming in.   They mainly act as a protection service.

 

Conceal Blessings:  It used to be common in Chinese traditions.  You downplay everything, down dress.  

 

Spirits follow home:  Going to casinos would said to dampen your 3 fires of powers.  Going to hospitals/funerals would also be a problem.  It is better to go to some noisy places, have food with others, get some sunshine, before directly go home.   In short, similar to spy stuff.

 

 

[Nuralshamal]

2 hours ago, jgd said:

 

 The differences become crystal clear if you work at the tourism sector. You can almost predict how the guests are going to behave at your hotel from the second they are doing the check in. It has an uncanny accuracy. I have probably met tourists from over one hundred  different countries.

Thanks for chipping in!

Yes, it really is crystal clear, very obvious.

No judgement in that, it's just super helpful to know and understand this in order to be in harmony with each other.

[-ꦥꦏ꧀ ꦱꦠꦿꦶꦪꦺꦴ-]

8 hours ago, Master Logray said:

 

Really?  the English/Scottish/Irish got their Druids, pagans, witches and wicca.   Nowadays they even have Harry Potter.

Modern UK is far from anything spiritual or mystical. Exactly why Crowley, Golden Dawn and others looked to the East.

[Nungali]

13 hours ago, -ꦥꦏ꧀ ꦱꦠꦿꦶꦪꦺꦴ- said:

I have to agree with @Nuralshamal and @Lala Nila

 

It is very obvious if you are of mixed heritage how different each group is. There’s nothing wrong with it, no one is better and no one is worse for it, just different. Of course not everyone in a group is 100% the same, we are just talking generally.
 

For example, being half Javanese and half English, one very obvious observation I’ve noticed is that for the English, you would be considered weird for believing in the supernatural, spirits, energy etc, but for the Javanese, you would be considered weird if you didn’t believe in it.

 

 

 

I have been through a lot of this and people are really mixed up about it .  They confuse 'race' , ethnicity and nationality .

 

How many  'English'   ( whatever that means nowadays ? )   believe in supernatural spirits , energy , etc .  ?   That depends if they are in the Church of England ,  Catholics  or even English Buddhists !  

[Nungali]

12 hours ago, jgd said:

 

 The differences become crystal clear if you work at the tourism sector. You can almost predict how the guests are going to behave at your hotel from the second they are doing the check in. It has an uncanny accuracy. I have probably met tourists from over one hundred  different countries.

 

And when the Javanese check in you can tell they 'believe in spirits'   more' ? 

[Nungali]

10 hours ago, Master Logray said:

 

Really?  the English/Scottish/Irish got their Druids, pagans, witches and wicca.   Nowadays they even have Harry Potter.

 

Indeed !   After a lifetime of studying anthropology ... its the cultural clothing  wherein the difference lies .

 

I had the opportunity to compare even highly secret initiation systems  from the west with the ancient Australian Aboriginal , guess what ?  

[Nungali]

2 hours ago, -ꦥꦏ꧀ ꦱꦠꦿꦶꦪꦺꦴ- said:

Modern UK is far from anything spiritual or mystical. Exactly why Crowley, Golden Dawn and others looked to the East.

 

I'm sorry that is just plain wrong and ill informed and a bit prejudiced . 

 

For one thing you speak of modern UK and then mention  some post Victorians  ... how far does your modern go back . 

 

As far as the east coming into influence from them look at things like 'The Grand Tour'  ... your observation is not 'exactly' why it happened at all . 

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Tour

 

 and understand that even if you do not agree or even dislike western spirituality   ( and by the way , I am not Christian )  one cannot simply say it didnt exist in 'England' . 

[Nungali]

One can clearly say   that the expression of spirituality in England and Java is different .  It is when one says that difference means the other type isnt real or doesnt exist or is not valid   ... that problems start . 

[Cobie]

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Edited September 7 by Cobie

[-ꦥꦏ꧀ ꦱꦠꦿꦶꦪꦺꦴ-]

8 hours ago, Nungali said:

One can clearly say   that the expression of spirituality in England and Java is different .  It is when one says that difference means the other type isnt real or doesnt exist or is not valid   ... that problems start . 

I never said one is real and one isn’t.

[Nungali]

12 hours ago, -ꦥꦏ꧀ ꦱꦠꦿꦶꦪꦺꦴ- said:

Modern UK is far from anything spiritual or mystical. Exactly why Crowley, Golden Dawn and others looked to the East.

 

You said this though  ^  . 

 

So take my comments as a counter to this statement .    

 

My questions still stand although I misquoted at you .  Eg how far does modern go back, and the other issues I mentioned . 

[-ꦥꦏ꧀ ꦱꦠꦿꦶꦪꦺꦴ-]

I’m not gonna bother, this thread is getting completely derailed now so I want to show @Nuralshamal respect and not contribute further to derailment.

 

Him and others know what I mean so no need to explain. 

[Nuralshamal]

41 minutes ago, -ꦥꦏ꧀ ꦱꦠꦿꦶꦪꦺꦴ- said:

I’m not gonna bother, this thread is getting completely derailed now so I want to show @Nuralshamal respect and not contribute further to derailment.

 

Him and others know what I mean so no need to explain. 

great points! 
 

yes, as interesting as all this is, we’ve drifted completely away from the topic. 
 

SO! 
 

back to black magic. 
 

it sucks, and is super prevalent in the Middle East.

 

in my wife’s village where she grew up, it was standard practice and you learnt since you were small.

 

different things you could do, eg if someone has gotten a new home and you’re jealous, you write some things from the Quran in reverse on a slip of paper, say a curse, blow on it, crumble it up and hide it in the new home somewhere not to be found. As long as it’s there, it’ll give bad energy to the new home.

 

Similarly at weddings, again, if you’re jealous, you can tie a string or a ribbon say on the chair, the utensils or any other thing to be used by the target, again saying a curse and blowing on it. If the victim then uses the thing, they will get cursed.

 

there was also another trick, again if you feel jealous that they ‘have it better’ than you, where you peel a fruit, etch signs into the peel, then hide it in the home of the target during your visit. The peel again being ‘trash’ so giving off bad energy.

 

these are simple and Childs play versions, but everyone in the village had learnt basic ‘black magic 101’ as kids.

 

so just imagine if you really want to go into it, the ancient systems found there all the way back to ancient pre-Islam Persia and ancient Babylon, using blood, piss, feces, and systematic cultivation of dark energy over decades. 
 

And just to remind, this young dude who cursed us, Zhongxian Wu inspite of cultivating since the age of 4, having all magical powers, healing, having done 1 year dark retreat in a cave, you name it, he couldn’t remove it.

 

Chunyi Lin who’s also got healing and psychic powers, having fasted 30 days in a cave meditating until he could see with his eyes closed, he also wasn’t powerful enough to remove it.

 

Hindu Swami who’s done sadhana since his teenage years, having done tantric graveyard sadhana and tamasic worship using blood to control spirits, having siddhi of Mahavidyas, he also couldn’t remove it.

 

sufi having done innumerable retreats in Iran and Afghanistan, the most psychic and clairvoyant I ever met, having healing lots of people on the brink of death deemed unsaveable due to blood cancer, marrow cancer, brain cancer, you name it, he also couldn’t remove it.

 

this is serious stuff, and from what I gather it’s a kind of specialty niche in cultivation, that unless you’ve gone deep, you cannot counter it, no matter how strong your general energy is, and even if you at a high level in tamasic tantric controlling spirits. 
 

So I feel you need to train in this specific area in order to be able to fight someone who’s also trained specifically in this area. And people who do that are extremely rare, even the most powerful masters I met in my life (all cited above), as well as my SKY masters, none could remove it. 

Edited Monday at 07:53 AM by Nuralshamal

[-ꦥꦏ꧀ ꦱꦠꦿꦶꦪꦺꦴ-]

@Nuralshamal I know a Javanese lady who can help you. She specialises in clearing djinn and countering black magic. I will send you her details in a PM.

[EFreethought]

On 9/7/2025 at 5:48 AM, Master Logray said:

 

Really?  the English/Scottish/Irish got their Druids, pagans, witches and wicca.   Nowadays they even have Harry Potter.

 

The English are not Celts. Some parts of Scotland have a strong Norse influence as well.